Questions for Cronin

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An MLHS staffer will be interviewing assistant coach of the Leafs Greg Cronin in the next few days. While we have a lineup of questions already, we’ll take the best couple of reader-submitted inquiries and try to work them into the interview as well. Throw yours in the comments.

Monday morning links…

Dug up by @Steve_Dangle last night on Twitter – Leo Komarov plays the keyboard as Jussi Rynnas sings about him.

Two weeks later: The Maple Leafs
Michael Trakios of the National Post with an off-season review.

The Morgan Rielly conundrum
Jim Hughes hinted strongly that there’s nothing left to gain in junior for Rielly, Michael Langlois makes a few good points here to the contrary.

We don’t hear much about Bill Watters anymore, but it turns out he’s still saying moronic things.

Grabovski tops thin group of remaining UFA centers.
The next two in terms of points last season? Antropov and Wellwood.

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  • Burtonboy

    Morning Alec . I have a question for Cronin. Ask him his opinion of this so called advanced stat revolution we keep hearing about and if the Leafs make use of them .

  • Jordan29

    I would like to know if any of them actually surf the internet on different site like this one ever looking for certain info or anything. Not sure they would admit it but I bet they do

    • The_Polish_Cannon

      Kadri once tweeted about MLHS

  • Jordan29

    fuck me……i just watched Kadri scoring to make it 4-1 in game 7 again……why did it happen……why

    • jimmyg65

      Jordan29 It’s still too soon…

      • Dink

        jimmyg65 Jordan29 I am still in shock

        • jimmyg65

          @Dink jimmyg65 Jordan29 I was watching a “year in review” show on LeafsTV last night and had to turn it off when they got to game 7. The rest of the show was great

        • MaxwellHowe

          jimmyg65 Jordan29 I watched the highlights and came away thinking that, damn, Franson has gotsta get paid!

        • Bobsyouruncle

          MaxwellHowe jimmyg65 Jordan29 I guess you didn’t watch the goals against.

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/KHL_hockey
    Kovalchuk’s new deal with SKA will be for four years. More details here: 
    http://t.co/3LmF7plnnt
    http://t.co/3LmF7plnnt

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    Stay safe my fellow leafs and dont forget to drink
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5EsEPCeqEU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUx7jt4I-KPT6guTWwLxn50w

  • Dink

    Stay Thirsty, My Friends

    http://hojomcojo.deviantart.com/art/Stay-Thirsty-My-Friends-184715832

  • Optimustic

    Dies anyone know what the assistant coaches are responsible for?  Is one taking care of the PK and an other running the PP, or do they all work together in all parts of the game?   Obviously St. Croix is the goalie coach and Underhill is the skating coach, but the others Farrish, Gordon an d Cronin that I’m wondering about.

    • Optimustic

      Edit:   “Does”

  • Komas Taberle

    Ask Cronin ” Are you telling off Grabo in this pic”?

  • wendelsfist

    Why did they choose to use a collapsing defensive system which gives up many shots against?
    Why was Grabbo given such a difficult checking role (poor dzone starts vs difficult competition)?
    How does the staff access team chemistry, player grit and leadership which are subjective?
    What type of stats beyond box car and scoring chances does the team look at?
    How useful do they think of Corsi (shot differentials) and if they use something superior internally?
    Why do they employ two enforcers who generally play 5 minutes a game when perhaps one would suffice and not sacrifice team depth and allow a more skilled PK or offensive talent to play the other position?.

  • MaxwellHowe

    To what extent have the recent changes in the roster addressed the collapse against the Bruins?  Were there players that failed to deliver in those final few minutes?

    • mcloki

      MaxwellHowe Experience is a great teacher. I think the same players would react differently in the same situation. Well the good ones would.

  • mcloki

    Morning Gents. I hope you had a bright beautiful weekend. Looks like a beautiful week coming up. I hope you go enjoy it.
    My question for Cronin.
    With so many coaches, advisors, media personalities, well wishers giving your players advice who do you tell them to listen too and do you have any person on staff to see that the players aren’t overwhelmed by advice.

  • Jmessih

    For who will ask about “advanced stats” I’m sure he will just respond and say all teams use their own advanced stats and they keep tabs on their players using an in house strategy.
    Question: Just please powned away on the use of 2 enforcers, especially considering that the leafs can potentially be dressing Fraser, Clarkson, Bolland, almost every night. Is there really a need for 2 5mins players on top of that? Those players add sandpaper and grit throughout the lineup.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/MaStrozykhttps://twitter.com/MaStrozyk/status/356750463103795204
    Raycroft joins Pogge in Swedish Allsvenskan (2nd tier) 5 days after Rask’s 8y/56M extension with the Bruins. Both in Italy in 12/13.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Yaknowwhat ingy56 Sorry…just found it interesting…JFJ’s dream duo. LOL

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Yaknowwhat ingy56 Pretty sure he’s done (as if he wasn’t before)…last I heard about him he was playing in a semi-pro tournament in Thailand.

  • Aaron Chan

    Look at the way Carlyle is looking at Grabo in the title picture…

  • MaxwellHowe

    Another question, again in relation to game 7.  Did the Leafs make a tactical mistake in the attempt to sit back and preserve the lead, and in your opinion will that affect the approach to protecting leads next season?

    • Jordan29

      Yaknowwhat MaxwellHowe ya so many mistakes and bad luck all added up to a disaster. Boston was also so calm you could tell they had been there before while the Leafs were all inexperienced. Frattin could have scored on the breakaway and Lupul on the wrap around in OT. So many chances its fucked to think about. Like really it was a perfect storm

      • Jordan29

        Yaknowwhat Jordan29 MaxwellHowe Oh ya, he was down so fast on the last tying goal I was ready to cry

    • borjesundin

      MaxwellHowe 
      Two things went wrong – 
      Reimer could not make a big save. Now we have Bernier. Leafs brass has never had faith in Reimer. 
      Since Bozak was hurt, no one could win a draw. Boston always had possession.
      Dion has no leadership skills. He was rattled and unable to settle everyone down on the bench. Dion was dead tired and when he’s tired his brain turns to mush.

    • Komas Taberle

      MaxwellHowe Goaltending and it’s been fixed.

      • KenBreadner

        Komas Taberle MaxwellHowe Can we please stop saying it’s been fixed, on the basis of 30 games or so of NHL experience. This is what ruins Maple Leaf players: they come in here expected to be saviours. Last I looked we got Bernier, not Quick.

  • Cameron19

    Yaknowwhat Most likely.  I don’t know if Randy “The Xenophobe” Carlyle will be able to handle having a Russian around any longer.  Regardless, now is the time to evaluate Kulemin and consider moving him.  Either you’re going to keep him in the fold and resign him, or you’re going to trade him and use the asset appropriately. We likely won’t be in a seller’s position at the deadline, so if we roll into the season with no extensions plans and him still on the roster, he will probably become another wasted asset; like MacArthur.

    • Cameron19

      Yaknowwhat Cameron19 Their D is a total bag of shit though.

    • Jordan29

      Cameron19 Yaknowwhat If Carlyle ruins Kulemin I will fucking snap. We need more players like him not less FFS

      • Cameron19

        Jordan29 Cameron19 Yaknowwhat Yea, anyone with a brain can see that, but…

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 Jordan29 Yaknowwhat Has Kulie been moved yet ?

      • Cameron19

        Yaknowwhat Cameron19 Jordan29 Accountable for what? Being the teams’ best defensive forward and hardest working guy?

      • Jordan29

        Cameron19 Jordan29 Yaknowwhat If theres one thing I agree with you on its that Carlyle is not the best coach. I wonder how Eakins would have been on this team to be honest. I dont understand how he ran Grabo off the lineup so quick. I know the cap hit made it a good move but fuck that has nothing to do with the coach

      • Cameron19

        Burtonboy Cameron19 Jordan29 Yaknowwhat No, but he should be if they aren’t going to extend him.

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 Burtonboy Jordan29 Yaknowwhat How do we know they aren’t working on that

      • Cameron19

        Burtonboy Cameron19 Jordan29 Yaknowwhat I don’t, but I’d be surprised if we were.

      • Jordan29

        Yaknowwhat Jordan29 Cameron19 yup, thats the only reason I dont bitch about him much. If we go futher in the playoffs this year then thats awesome.

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Yaknowwhat Jordan29 Cameron19 How many players liked Scotty Bowman or Mike Keenan? You don’t have to like your coach to have success, just do your job.

      • Jordan29

        ingy56 Yaknowwhat Jordan29 Cameron19 its just that different players react differently. JVR worked his ass off when called out by him. Kessel though would probably tell him to GGF. When I was younger if a coach called me out I snapped back and told him to fuck off. I didnt like being be-littled. If they talked to me in person alone I would work my ass off for them. Just me but how many guys are the same on the team?

      • DAOLGY

        Jordan29 Cameron19 Yaknowwhat I have very little confidence in Carlyle’s coaching, too “bullheaded” to suit me. Just sayin’.

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 Burtonboy Jordan29 Yaknowwhat FFS . We’re trying to get our RFA’s signed . We have a full yr to after that to address all these other issues. At the very least give them a chance to get to these other issues before we make any predictions about who stays and who don’t

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Jordan29 ingy56 Yaknowwhat Cameron19 True, but then a coach should have the right to work with players that react positively and move out players that don’t. Otherwise, the constant conflict can become a distraction and I sense that may have been part of the issue with Grabo.

      • Cameron19

        Burtonboy I think we have enough information to make predictions though. How many Russian players have been extended under a Randy Carlyle regime?

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 Burtonboy Man just because we let Grabo go now Carlyle is a Ruskie hater ? Give your head a shake

      • Cameron19

        Burtonboy Cameron19 I dunno that he hates them, but clearly he feels more comfortable with North American players.  He had this same issue everywhere else in his career too – it has little to do with Grabo.  There are also cap considerations at work here.

      • Dink

        Jordan29 Cameron19 Yaknowwhat this convo is sure drifting

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 Burtonboy Your digging up bones Cam. Give these moves a chance to all shake out before we say the coach and the GM are bums . Seems to me some people have lost all sense of perspective since Grabo was let go

      • Cameron19

        Burtonboy Cameron19 I’m not saying they’re bums at all, I’m just saying that one very possible result of recent trends is that Kulemin will not be with the team much longer.

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 Burtonboy I can’t see how you come to that conclusion . Man Carlyle was a huge supporter of Kulie all yr. His minutes and how he used him are indicative of that . Unless something has changed dramatically that we don’t know about there is no reason to think Kulie isn’t a big part of the Leafs plans going forward .

      • Dink

        Burtonboy Cameron19 Komarov would be too, if he had stayed

      • Cameron19

        Burtonboy Cameron19 We will see. I suspect that commentary will change pretty quickly when Kulemin wants to be paid.

      • Burtonboy

        @Dink Burtonboy Cameron19 Not much we can do about that unless we were willing to pay him 3 mil per season

      • WatsonB

        Cameron, Carlyle had this same issue everywhere else in his career? Please elaborate….With which Russian born players did he have issues with and where?

      • Cameron19

        WatsonB As soon as he arrived in Anaheim they started the exodus of foreign born players. By 2007, the only non-Canadians on the roster were Teemu Selanne, Sami Pahlsson and George Parros.

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 Burtonboy Just like your avatar your now part of the dark side . Hope you enjoy it lol

      • Cameron19

        Burtonboy Cameron19 If you only knew the power of the Dark Side…lol

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 Burtonboy LOL I have to take a vacation for a month or so . The heat has everyone’s brain addled.

      • Dink

        Burtonboy Cameron19 not mine, I am cool as a cucumber (little shriveled is all)
        lol

      • Komas Taberle

        @Dink Burtonboy Cameron19 Carlyle is not a xenophobe, he saw a weakness in Grabo’s game and asked Nonis to fix it, by removing him from roster. Nonis and Lewike agreed and got Bolland who is much better defensively than Grabo. I like Grabo but you can’t go minus 10 in one playoff series ever and expect to get praise heaped on you by the coach, Grabo is gone, no need to cry over spilled milk.

      • KenBreadner

        DAOLGY Jordan29 Cameron19 Yaknowwhat There were people who hated Quinn. Hell, there were people who hated BURNS. I’m guessing at this point that it really doesn’t matter who coachers the Maple Leafs, because all coaches turn to shit behind that particular bench…
        Is Carlyle perfect? Hell, no. But he’s not Ron Wilson and he’s not Paul Maurice.

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ DeclanK

      Cameron19 Yaknowwhat
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Stanley_Cup_Finals#Rosters
      As is the case with most SC rosters, there wasn’t even 1 player from Russia on either squads. That’s curious for a hockey super power like Russia to have absolutely no players from Russia on either team.

  • Jordan29

    If Kulemin goes then letting macarthur walk was stupid IMO. We dont have many 2-3 line wingers at our disposal and I dont trust guys like D’Amigo and Colborne until they prove otherwise

    • Cameron19

      Jordan29 I have a feeling he’ll just be allowed to walk next summer.

      • Jordan29

        Cameron19 Jordan29 Cant see that happening. I just cant

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Cameron19 Hope I’m wrong. Kulie is obviously one of my favorite players.  Would love to see him resigned, but if traded, I want to see him used as part of a package for a star caliber player. I don’t want to see him traded for picks/prospects or worse, allowed to walk – but we’re going to enter a precarious territory with him right away.  My gut feeling is that we can only afford to resign either him or Bolland next summer, and gee, I wonder who we’re going to pick…

        • Jordan29

          Cameron19 Jordan29 I highly doubt it. We will have tons of cap space next year with only Kessel getting a raise, and Gardiner. Kessel wont make more then the 2-3 mil we have in buyouts right now, and they the cap will be back up. I dont think there will be a problem whatsoever next year with the cap

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Cameron19 And Reimer. And Bolland. And Phaneuf. And of course, the goal will be to make upgrades as well.

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Cameron19 Not to mention, so many of our little schemes are predicated on getting rid of Liles – which isn’t a given.

        • Jordan29

          Cameron19 Jordan29 Bolland and Phaneuf wont see cap hit raises you know that, and If Reimer gets a decent raise it will mean hes a #1 and then Bernier will probbaly be gone. Cant see that happening

        • Jordan29

          Cameron19 Jordan29 I still feel we will get Gunner signed at 2.5-3 mil and Franson at 3-3.5 allowing us to keep Liles. So I dont expect to see him leave

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Cameron19 You’re overly optimistic about contracts. You will see.  It will be very difficult, unless the cap reaches 70 million.

        • Dink

          Jordan29 Cameron19 I agree

      • Cameron19

        -Keon- Does the Kovalchuk fiasco change that, I wonder?

      • Dink

        -Keon- lol true

      • Cameron19

        -Keon- No denying that, but his situation does force us to realize that Russians are quickly leaving North America, and Kulemin is a UFA.

      • Dink

        -Keon- I also think this decision was as much Lamorello as Kovalchuk..he is nobodys’ fool. 
        He could have made times real tuff for Kovalchuk, but it actual was good to get rid of him.

      • mcloki

        @Dink -Keon- Guys the reason Kavalchuck was given the HEave ho, Golden wink to go to the KHL was all about the sale of teh Jersey Devils. 
        With Kovalchuck on the payroll the team is a much better buy for any potential suitor. JErsey will be sold in the next few days and this just makes the sale all the ore possible.

      • wiski

        mcloki -Keon- Being 200 million in dept doesn’t help either.

      • Black_Hawk

        Cameron19 Jordan29 thats just stupid

  • Dink

    Nyquist in Detroit is still available (watching this carefully)

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Yaknowwhat Man, I sure hope there’s no Reilly here next season. Other than that, fully agree.

  • Dink

    Yaknowwhat come fix my toilet

    • Dink

      Yaknowwhat dunno, haven’t got done eating yet but I fear the worst

  • ShotgunCharlie

    So I am looking at the leafs defensive prospects. Aside from Rielly being our top….anyone have thoughts on which order Finn, Blacker and Percey fit in?  I would think Blacker may be the closest…not neccesarily the highest potential

    • Cameron19

      ShotgunCharlie 

      Blacker, Granberg, Percy, Finn

      • ShotgunCharlie

        Cameron19 ShotgunCharlie Thats at least one thing I hope Burke gets his due credit for.

    • mcloki

      ShotgunCharlie Where have you been. HAvene’t seen yo in ages. Hope you’re well.

  • Jordan29

    Kadri gets a deal somewhat like hopefully and we see

    1-2
    2-2.5
    3-3
    4-3.5

    FORWARDS
    James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m) 
    Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.750m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m) 
    Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m) 
    Frazer McLaren ($0.700m) / Joe Colborne ($0.600m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m) 
    David Broll ($0.591m) / Trevor Smith ($0.550m) / 
    DEFENSEMEN
    Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) / Carl Gunnarsson ($2.750m) 
    Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($3.250m) 
    Morgan Rielly ($1.744m) / John-Michael Liles ($3.875m) 
    Mark Fraser ($0.850m) / 
    GOALTENDERS
    Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m) 
    James Reimer ($1.800m) 
    OTHER
    Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m) 
    Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m) 
    RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
    Matt Frattin ($0.437m—0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m—0.1%) 
    ——
    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
    (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
    SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,426,667; BONUSES: $1,150,000
    CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $23,333

    • Cameron19

      Jordan29 As long as you dramatically underpay everyone, it works just fine!

      • Jordan29

        Cameron19 Jordan29 nope. Gunner can walk if he expects to be paid as a #2 guy. Frason can be traded if he wants to be paid like a proven top 4 also. Your forgetting our defence was in the lower half of the NHL last year and needs to be better

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Cameron19 Ohhh, okay, and then we’ll just ice the worst defense in the league in order to make sure our D get blamed financially for the teams’ defensive issues.

        • Jordan29

          Yaknowwhat Cameron19 Jordan29 yes, but how can PK Subban sign for 2 million last year as a 23 year old top defence in the league and you think Paying Franson 3.25 is low?

        • Cameron19

          Yaknowwhat Cameron19 Jordan29 More than that, defense is achieved a team. Sure, Gunnar is playing a pairing above his grade, but the reason our defense struggles is, in my opinion, primarily because of poor forward positioning, and a general lack of puck movement from the goalie on out.  There’s a reason the unit appeared to improve dramatically once Gardiner started looking like Gardiner again.

        • Jordan29

          Cameron19 Yaknowwhat Jordan29 you haveno clue about contracts and how they are usually given out though. Look at them on our team. They usually start small and end larger for most young RFAs. Franson will probably start at 2.5 and end at 3.5-4 and get a hit of about 3.25. Then cash in on his next deal. Same as JVR did. He only made 2.5 mil last year. Think about that

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Yaknowwhat Cameron19 Okay, you need to stop using the Subban example, because I think you’re really misusing it. 

          For starters, yes, as Yak said, he got screwed.

          Further to that though, he also WAS NOT a top D when he signed that – he was a 2nd/3rd pairing guy who played PP and had 4 years of RFA left in front of him.  Franson and Gunnar are on the verge of UFA, and anything beyond one year will be buying those years – those cost money however much you don’t want to admit it.

          Even more than that though, Subban actually wasn’t underpaid as dramatically as it appeared because of the way the deal was structured. The bulk of the money will be paid to him this season, instead of getting pro-rated by the lockout season.  He’s taking him 5.75 million for 120 NHL games

        • Jordan29

          Yaknowwhat Jordan29 Cameron19 no he didnt, he just took the deal that made sense to him. Hes an RFA and the team needed to hit the cap. He will make almost 4 mil this year and set himself up for another raise next contract. This is the same way Nonis is building this team. If the player wants to be selfish too soon the fuck them

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Cameron19 Yaknowwhat J.V.R was a 22 year old with 4 years of RFA in front of him man. Franson and Gunnar are near-UFAs.

        • Jordan29

          Cameron19 Jordan29 Yaknowwhat you just described Franson though lol lots of PP time and 2-3 pairing.

        • Dink

          Yaknowwhat Cameron19 Jordan29 I don’t think that, he had one good season ..but nothing special.

        • Jordan29

          Cameron19 Jordan29 Yaknowwhat ok well we will see. If we sign them both to ridiculous deals like you think, we will be pissed very soon when our defence is log jammed with overpaid average defence

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Cameron19 Yaknowwhat Ya, but on the verge of UFA – not a 22 year old with years of restricted status left in front of him and no arbitration rights.

        • Jordan29

          Cameron19 Jordan29 Yaknowwhat does not matter. Nonis is not going to pay him more then hes worst. If he does then hes an idiot

        • Dink

          Jordan29 Cameron19 Yaknowwhat times are tough this year on contracts, I think players are learning this…

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Cameron19 Yaknowwhat I’m not saying they’ll be ridiculous, I’m just saying they’ll be more than you think – you’re underpaying everyone, so of course the cap works.  You might get one of them at your dollar figures, but not all of them. There’s no way Kadri accepts a 4 year deal at a figure less than 3 – that would be terrible for both sides.

        • Jordan29

          Cameron19 Jordan29 Yaknowwhat How? Hes had one good year worth of 48 games. Nothing more. Hes far from proven

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Cameron19 Yaknowwhat So has Roman Josi.

        • Black_Hawk

          Jordan29 Cameron19 we cant let gunner walk imo. He is solid for us.

    • Cameron19

      Jordan29Jordan29 I see it more like this by the 2015 season:

      j.v.r. (4.25) – bozak (4.20) – kessel (7.50)
      lupul (5.25) – kadri (3.25) – clarkson (5.25)
      ________ – bolland (4.00) – ___________
      ________ – mcclement (2.00) – orr (0.925)
      mclaren (0.70)

      gunnar (3.00) – phaneuf (7.00)
      gardiner (3.00) – franson (3.50)
      j.m.liles (3.875) – ___________ 
      fraser (1.00)

      reimer (3.75) – bernier (2.90)-CAP HIT: 65.35 million-Unless the cap is 70 million, it’s going to be really tough. Moving Liles would really help, but if we can’t, keeping everyone probably impossible, much less upgrading.

      • mcloki

        Cameron19 Jordan29 The cap is going to rocket.

      • Jordan29

        Cameron19 Jordan29 They wont be paying both Reimer and Bernier 3 + mil. One will be moved next year so we dont see a Vancouver-like clown show

  • lou19

    Signing Kadri and Franson is a must. Let Gunnarsson and Fraser walk.

    • Area49th

      lou19 We don’t have many stay at home Defensemen, Im not a huge Gunnar fan, but who would replace him

      • wiski

        Area49th lou19 We definitely missed him when he was out last year

      • lou19

        Area49th lou19 We don’t need stay at defenseman, we need defenseman that can move the puck and skate and pinch.The only reason Fraser is a stay at home D is because he cant skate, just like our captain pylon. we have a few that could do the same job or better, we have Brennan, Macwilliam, Percy, Blacker and Rielly.

    • B_Leaf

      lou19 
      Really? Really? Really?

      • lou19

        B_Leaf lou19 yes really, really and keep the bag on your head, it does your face justice.

        • B_Leaf

          lou19 B_Leaf 
          Oh that hurt.

    • mcloki

      lou19 Stop the crazy talk. trying to troll the regulars will get you nowhere. Back to the Habs forum with ya.

      • lou19

        mcloki lou19 lol you probably think Phaneuf and Kostka are one-two defense pair.

    • jimmyg65

      lou19 Let Gunnarson walk and watch 29 GMs line up to sign him.

      • lou19

        jimmyg65 lou19 Then sign him and then trade him. imo

    • Black_Hawk

      lou19 we need gunenr imo

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/Feenohmenalhttps://twitter.com/Feenohmenal/status/338828231291572225
    My favorite thing about marriage is sharing a house with the person most likely to murder me.

    • mcloki

      wiski IS that Elisha’s or Dions official twitter account?

      • wiski

        mcloki Just tweeted Jamie the same thinghttps://twitter.com/jamiemclennan29https://twitter.com/jamiemclennan29/status/356791455387357186
        Mr and Mrs McLennan
        July 12 / 2013
        https://twitter.com/search?q=%23BestDayEver&src=hash http://t.co/YBuHDWMlUc

        • mcloki

          wiski mcloki That looks like a spectacular wedding. Memorable to say the least.

        • Black_Hawk

          wiski mcloki nice for him

  • B_Leaf

    I forget who it was…I think maybe Burke…but he said one of the players he got asked the most about from other GMs was….Carl Gunnarsson.
    Now maybe at the time he was great value cap wise, etc…but still I think there is a consistency and value to his game that goes without notice from the average fan. I also think there is a chance he gets a little better. 
    I don’t think it will be a problem but this team better sign ALL of our key RFAs including Gunnarsson, Franson, Fraser, and Kadri. If it comes down to buying out Liles, or trading him with an asset, or trading him with a cap hit remaining, then so be it. This team cannot afford to lose more quality of the roster…and those four have significant quality. 
    In fact i would be willing to trade Liles with an asset like Percy if it meant I could unload all his salary (hello NJ, there is your 1st round pick), if I could bring back a useful 3rd liner or have enough to sign Komarov back. I like our 1-9 forwards but having a 9-10 guy like Komarov would give us much needed depth. We would be pretty tough to play against.

    • The_Irv

      Depends what Gunnar is looking for IMO… I don’t feel that is he a #2 D and don’t feel like he should be paid like one. He should be paid like a reliable 2nd pairing d man.
      I agree we should not be walking away from any of our RFAs. Especially guys on the back end, given the demand for defensemen in the league right now.
      My guess is Gunnar and Franson both get short term deals (will be in the favour for both of them) and this gives Nonis time to assess some of the younger depth. Maybe by the trade deadline this year he would feel comfortable moving someone because one of the young kids is developing well.
      Also, I could be way off  the mark here, but my take on the Franson situation is its being held up because of the term and not the value in $. I’m guessing Franson wants a short term deal, to provide  himself the opportunity to test free agency. Leafs are probably trying to lock him up 4-5 years. Just a guess obviously…

      • B_Leaf

        The_Irv 
        Bang on I think. Gunnar will get two years if it goes to arbitration and Franson likely ends up at 2 years if we don’t have the space, or 4 or 5 years if we can find the space to pay him. In one and a half or two years Rielly could be ready.

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/MapleLeafshttps://twitter.com/MapleLeafs/status/356795006868140033
    Jonathan Bernier will wear No. 45 this season with the https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Leafs&src=hash https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TMLtalk&src=hash http://t.co/X6hSdEt9dg
    http://t.co/bq9ZffOA1t

    • rustynail

      Burtonboy fast this morning

      • wiski

        rustynail Burtonboy Very lol

    • Cameron19

      Burtonboy what number is Bolland going with?

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 Burtonboy No word yet

      • Burtonboy

        Cameron19 Burtonboy Won’t be 44 …… Thats reserved for Rielly :))))))))))

        • Cameron19

          Burtonboy Cameron19 Probably 16.  I don’t like 44 for Rielly.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Burtonboy i like it, solid number

        • wiski

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 Burtonboy #3 might be available 😉

      • rustynail

        Cameron19 Burtonboy How about 91 his old Knights number?

        • Cameron19

          rustynail Cameron19 Burtonboy Maybe just 9 – that’s available, too.

      • Ze_theLeafsFan

        Cameron19 Burtonboy He wore 36 with the Hawks no? that’s gunnar’s number

      • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

        Cameron19 Burtonboy 7 :)

    • Ze_theLeafsFan

      Burtonboy That means Fraser is gone? btw what’s with the other picture?

      • Burtonboy

        Ze_theLeafsFan Burtonboy Don’t know

      • wiski

        Ze_theLeafsFan Burtonboyhttps://twitter.com/MapleLeafshttps://twitter.com/MapleLeafs/status/356800814607634432
        He has switched to No. 2 RT https://twitter.com/AhirSteven: https://twitter.com/MapleLeafs what about fraser?

        • Ze_theLeafsFan

          wiski Ze_theLeafsFan Burtonboy he is not even signed.

    • B_Leaf

      Burtonboy 
      Wasn’t that Fraser’s number??

      • B_Leaf

        Burtonboy 
        Oh yeah just saw on mapleleafs.com Fraser is now #2

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/IgorEronko
    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23KHL&src=hash prez Alex Medvedev on rumored $15-20 mln per year for Kovalchuk in https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SKA&src=hash: ‘those numbers are very far from the real ones

    Whats being paid under the table I wonder lol

    • rustynail

      Burtonboy Looks like Cameron19  has gone completely over to the dark side. :)

      • Burtonboy

        rustynail Burtonboy Cameron19 He’s cracked I tell ya …cracked

      • Ze_theLeafsFan

        rustynail Burtonboy Cameron19 what have I missed?

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    11:30am and its already SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSMOKING!

    • wiski

      Radar O’Riellyhttps://twitter.com/680Newshttps://twitter.com/680News/status/356738354743746561
      MORE: Heat alert issued for https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Toronto&src=hash; humidex advisory calls for values in low 40s this week for https://twitter.com/search?q=%23GTA&src=hash & TO http://t.co/A7N3tYnqlD https://twitter.com/search?q=%23weather&src=hash

      • Burtonboy

        wiski Radar O’Rielly Supposed to hit 35 at the airport here today so it will likely hit 38 + out my way

        • wiski

          Burtonboy wiski Radar O’Rielly Just finished watering the hanging plants, poor things lol

        • Burtonboy

          wiski Burtonboy Radar O’Rielly Shit that reminds me . I’d better water mine

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

          wiski Burtonboy Radar O’Rielly Screw the plants!! I’m watering myself!!

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/Nichols_NHLPool
    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23LAKings&src=hash, Alec Martinez agree to terms on a two-year contract
    .

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/SportsnetSpechttps://twitter.com/SportsnetSpec/status/356798098271518721
    Kings have now signed Alec Martinez for 2 years, after signing Jake Muzzin last week. No room there for Scuderi, victim of the cap.

    • Burtonboy

      wiski Scuderi signed with the Pens. What in fuck is he talking about ?

      • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

        Burtonboy wiski No room on the kings?

        • Burtonboy

          Radar O’Rielly Burtonboy wiski Scruderi signed on FA day . Long before Muzzin and Martinez

        • wiski

          Burtonboy Radar O’Rielly wiski Thats what I thought as well, it was down to us and them

        • rustynail

          wiski Burtonboy Radar O’Rielly only really just them

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

          Burtonboy Radar O’Rielly wiski Well you only have so many characters on twitter to fully explain.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Burtonboy Radar O’Rielly wiski I think he meant that they could sign the two players for what Scuderi alone would cost them, maybe less.

        • wiski

          ingy56 Burtonboy Radar O’Rielly wiskihttps://twitter.com/SportsnetSpechttps://twitter.com/SportsnetSpec/status/356808832749539329
          Yes, Scuderi went to PIT. My poorly advanced point was, he was forced out of LA by need to sign younger, cheaper D-men.

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/CP24https://twitter.com/CP24/status/356800609640382464
    Kovalchuk signs four-year deal with KHL team. http://t.co/wKr0BLh7iT

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    Ollie Williams says “ITS HOT!!!!!!!”

  • B_Leaf

    Two-Three year deal for Gunnar
    One year for Komarov
    Two year for Kadri
    Two-Three year for Franson
    Deal Liles with a defence prospect like Percy to clear cap space. Costly but I think we go for it this year. The added depth of bring back Komarov for his second year should be valuable.
    CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTERMy Custom Lineup
    FORWARDS
    James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m) 
    Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($3.300m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m) 
    Leo Komarov ($2.800m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m) 
    Frazer McLaren ($0.700m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m) 
    Jerry D’Amigo ($1.083m) / 
    DEFENSEMEN
    Carl Gunnarsson ($3.000m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) 
    Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($3.400m) 
    Mark Fraser ($1.100m) / Korbinian Holzer ($0.788m) 
    Petter Granberg ($0.900m) 
    GOALTENDERS
    Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m) 
    James Reimer ($1.800m) 
    OTHER
    Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m) 
    Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m) 
    RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
    Matt Frattin ($0.437m—0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m—0.1%) 
    ——
    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
    (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
    SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,836,667; BONUSES: $612,500
    CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $75,833

    • Pent_House

      B_Leaf You realize Komarov is gone…and why the hell would you throw in a prospect, especially a 1st rounder in Percy just to move Liles…..wow lmao

      • B_Leaf

        Pent_House B_Leaf 
        Komarov can still sign with the Leafs if they pay him. Even Nonis said he would like him back if not for the cap. He is making $3M in Russia but don’t rule him completely out if we make space. Another option could be adding him when the RSL shuts down.  I am not saying we must have Komarov but adding a proven top nine forward would really add to our depth.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          B_Leaf Pent_House I believe he has an out in his contract to come back once the KHL season ends, so potentially he could come back if his KHL team bows out early and the Leafs go on a playoff run. After next season though, he’s a UFA for NHL purposes. I believe they can adequately replace him cheaper by then.

        • B_Leaf

          ingy56 B_Leaf Pent_House 
          Yup, I think he can opt out before the season as well, its just the money. While I really like Komarov, I was simply pointing out the benefits of adding top nine depth to our team. If we could clear Liles off the books we could sign are RFA’s to longer term deals and we could probably have enough to add a top nine talent. There will be injuries and teams depth will be tested.

    • djamon

      B_Leaf Fraser/Holzer will not be a pairing this year…or maybe ever.

      • SalmingScar

        djamon B_Leaf haha. yeah.

      • jcg_4

        djamon B_Leaf I don’t get all the hate for Holzer; I think that if you give him time to adjust to the NHL game you will like what he becomes. If that pair could ever bring to the Leafs what they brought to the Marlies they would be a solid pair.

      • B_Leaf

        djamon B_Leaf 
        I wouldn’t bet any money on that statement.

    • Black_Hawk

      B_Leaf komarov is gone

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/SNHockeyCentralhttps://twitter.com/SNHockeyCentral/status/356807090116894721
    New York Islanders, Josh Bailey agree to terms on a five-year deal.

  • ShotgunCharlie

    Dontcha love the summer Steam sale? Got Fallout new Vegas for $2.50 woot!

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPNhttps://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN/status/356810730848256001
    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Isles&src=hash Josh Bailey’s five-year deal worth $16.5 million

    • Pent_House

      ingy56 3.3 seems a little high for him

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Pent_House ingy56 Definitely, just putting his numbers up beside Kadri’s and getting the same conclusion. Maybe they bought some UFA seasons?

        • Pent_House

          ingy56 Pent_House possibly, but even then still seems high to me

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Pent_House ingy56 I’m sure Naz’s agent likes it, drafted around the same slot and Naz has put up better numbers.

        • Leafbites

          ingy56 Pent_House I’d bet that Kadri’s camp would prefer a shorter contract for this one, probably 2 years with NoNo pushing for 3.

        • rustynail

          ingy56 Pent_House they bought 3 of them

        • Pent_House

          ingy56 Pent_House At this point I think draft slotting is irrelevant when it comes to contract talks

        • rustynail

          ingy56 Pent_House will Naz want to give up 3 UFA years at that price?

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          rustynail ingy56 Pent_House Makes sense then.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Pent_House ingy56 Just thinking of arbitration, but I guess Naz doesn’t qualify anyways.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          rustynail ingy56 Pent_House I doubt it.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/ChrisBottaNHLhttps://twitter.com/ChrisBottaNHL/status/356811961905844224
    Heckuva deal for Joshua. Gives up 3 UFA years, NHL best is 35 pts. RT https://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN Bailey’s 5-year deal worth $16.5 million

    • ShotgunCharlie

      rustynail I think Garth Snow fell victim to the “falling in love with a player” syndrome

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/TsarKasimhttps://twitter.com/TsarKasim/status/356760058681499650
    With Loblaws buying Shoppers, does this mean that their house brands are going to merge into one brand called No Life?

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      rustynailhttps://twitter.com/MikeBullard1010https://twitter.com/MikeBullard1010/status/356793027223748608
      Loblaws buying Shoppers changing name of penicillin to “Memories of Thailand”.

  • Pent_House

    Looks like having a Ski or Chuk at the end of your name is a federal crime in Canada

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Pent_House What’s up?

      • Pent_House

        ingy56 Pent_House Had the TSN drive show on in the background, more russian hate and jokes is all

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Pent_House ingy56 Ahhhh, Grabo and Kovie…duhhhh…yeah, the Canadian boy syndrome will be alive and well in this case. I think Kovie did the Devils a large favour actually.

        • Pent_House

          ingy56 Pent_House When I have a kid I might have to send him to the KHL with a SKI on his last name lol Save the poor guy all the discrimination

        • colino17

          Pent_House ingy56 Mikilya Chukski

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Pent_House ingy56 I wonder if it’s something that Luongo could consider? That would sure test that theory, mind you his heritage is Italian so that could set it off yet again.

        • Ze_theLeafsFan

          ingy56 Pent_House save them a lot of money

        • Pent_House

          ingy56 Pent_House Lu wouldn’t survive in Russia.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Ze_theLeafsFan ingy56 Pent_House The Canucks you mean? It would screw them big time, they just traded away thier young goaltender and Luongo is paid OK in terms of yearly pay, it’s the term that’s the killer. I’d love to see it happen actually.

        • Leafbites

          Pent_House ingy56 I prefer him Vancouver as an entertaining element of the prefect storm brewing on the coast.

        • Ze_theLeafsFan

          ingy56 Ze_theLeafsFan Pent_House no. Kovy and the Devils

        • wiski

          Pent_House ingy56 Or you can change the SKI to toboggan 😉

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Pent_House ingy56 Likely, it’s just that he said he’d get rid of his deal if he could and this is pretty much the only way to do it other than flat out retiring permanently.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Ze_theLeafsFan ingy56 Pent_House Oh for sure, he did them a large. I saw the numbers if he waited a year or two to do this and the cap recapture would have been substantially more.

        • Pent_House

          ingy56 Pent_House It’s not that easy, he’d have to not play anywhere in the world for an entire year, and then still have the canucks give consent for him to come back to the NHL. Not happening.

  • ShotgunCharlie

    makes re-sgining Kulemin more costly

  • Mind Bomb

    Good afternoon Folks !

    • Ze_theLeafsFan

      Mind Bomb someone just woke up lol

      • Mind Bomb

        Ze_theLeafsFan Mind Bomb  Haa nope different Job at work, I am driving the Truck so out of the office. Crossing the Border and moving Freight in this heat, I am missing my Puter and AC :)

    • playoff nut

      Mind Bomb Hide the beer lmao and the wimmen folk

      • Mind Bomb

        playoff nut Mind Bomb  Hhahah, To late ! I Ninja’d em !

        • playoff nut

          Mind Bomb playoff nut LMao ,sneak ! lol

  • Dangle_My_Berries

    Oooohhh LEO KOMAROV! Oooohhhhh LEO KOMAROV! ……

    • SalmingScar

      Dangle_My_Berries He’ll be Komarov the mountains when he comes, he’ll be komarov.. the mountains when he comes……

      • Pent_House

        SalmingScar Dangle_My_Berries He’ll mosquito the mountain?

  • colino17

    Yaknowwhat moved him yesterday for an awesome package including Stajan, Mayers, Hagman, and White

    • Black_Hawk

      colino17 Yaknowwhat lol

  • mattobv

    Why was Grabo never used in a first line roll? For a coaching staff that likes to “mix it up” how do you explain not puting your best centre with your other best players? Through 2 coaching staffs bozak was chosen over Grabo for that roll, originally it was because the second line of kulie/grabo/Mac was being so productive, but since then there was almost no effort to include grabovski in offensive situations with offensive players. Why was Grabo never given a chance to be that 1C we so desperately need?

    • Tommy Cat

      mattobv To me Grabo just rags the puck too much.  On Phil’s line you got to get the puck to Phil.

      • The_Polish_Cannon

        Phil is just as much of a playmaker as he is a sniper. I’m not starting a Grabo Bozak debate again but I’ve seen Bozak fan on one too many of Kessel’s beauty passes.

    • The_Polish_Cannon

      http://theleafsnation.com/2013/7/9/not-advanced-statistics-grabovski-is-still-better there’s a graph in this article that shows kessel logged more points per 60 minutes with Grabo ham he did with Bozak. In the limited time together they managed to put up points. It’s weird that they were never given an extended look together

      • Pent_House

        The_Polish_Cannon No more please…….this same thing has been posted like 10000000000000 times this month. People need to move on already.

  • Greg Fenton

    Yaknowwhat Phaneuf is probably one of the last players Nonis moves to clear up some cap space.

    • Greg Fenton

      Yaknowwhat Greg Fenton He is the captain of hte team, #1 D-man, the biggest minute eater etc… They obviously see him a core player. They’ll cut other players in order to keep someone like Phaneuf, not the other way around.

    • Greg Fenton

      Yaknowwhat Greg Fenton To keep him they will have to give him that (and 6, more like 7-7.5) for 7-8 years, and they probably will. They’ll want to lock Phaneuf and Kessel up for that long, to the big money it will cost to lock them up, and they’ll be “the guys” for the next 5-8 years in Toronto.

    • Pent_House

      Yaknowwhat Greg Fenton The 8 years is given if you want to re-sign him without a doubt, and I bet he’ll want 7 per not 6.

    • Black_Hawk

      Pent_House Yaknowwhat Greg Fenton i agree

    • mcloki

      Yaknowwhat Greg Fenton WHo do you replace him with in minutes and offensive potential and how much will that cost you. Nobody is doing a straight Weber for Pha9 swap.

    • mcloki

      Yaknowwhat Greg Fenton Done

    • Greg Fenton

      Yaknowwhat Greg Fenton Kessel will probably get more (8-8.5, maybe more then that) for 8 years, or less if he doesn’t want an 8 year contract. 
      I wouldnt’ give either of them that kind of contract, I don’t think either is worth it and neither is the kind of player the Leafs should be/can be building around. But I would bet that Nonis will sign both.

    • Pent_House

      Greg Fenton Yaknowwhat I was initially out-raged when reading that Kessel is not worth that according to you and I was going to demand an explanation but then really that’s your opinion. I’d sign Kess to an 8 x 8 asap.

    • Greg Fenton

      mcloki Yaknowwhat Greg Fenton Thats the issue. If they let their current core guys, and Kessel and Phaneuf are the two best players on the team right now, walk or move them, who do they get to replace them? 
      The answer to the question is that they would have to rebuild and whoever they drafted early would be the players to replace them, but I don’t think Nonis wants too and/or is able to do that right now.

    • Greg Fenton

      Pent_House Greg Fenton Yaknowwhat I’ve said many times, Kessel isn’t a franchise/top tier player. He is a step down from that, and I wouldn’t pay him like he is a franchise player. 
      However, the Leafs will probably make him one of the highest paid forwards in the league. Before next year I would bet/expect Kessel, Phaneuf, Reimer (unless Bernier completely out plays him) and Gardiner to all be resigned, and we’ll have the core of hte Leafs for the next 5 years or so set.

    • Cameron19

      Yaknowwhat Greg Fenton I can imagine it – and it makes me very pleased.  We should be so lucky to have a franchise defender.

    • Greg Fenton

      Cameron19 Yaknowwhat Greg Fenton The Leafs would be lucky to have a franchise defender, they just have to find one first.

    • Cameron19

      Greg Fenton Cameron19 Yaknowwhat Yea yea, we all know you don’t have a clue.

    • The_Polish_Cannon

      Your right consistent 30 goal scorers who is also the leading playmaker of his line are a dime a dozen

    • Greg Fenton

      The_Polish_Cannon Never once said he isn’t a good player. Just not a franchise player or worth franchise player money, but he’ll probably be looking for that kind of pay day.

  • Black_Hawk

    TheCanucksnaphook i would give that to kadri hopefully he would take it

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/crusholmehttps://twitter.com/crusholme/status/356822892954128385
    How about this for personalized license regret? #1998 http://t.co/umahMzZxCd

    • Black_Hawk

      wiski lol haha

      • Komas Taberle

        Yaknowwhat Black_Hawk wiski Gynecologist?

      • darthNihilus

        Komas Taberle Yaknowwhat Black_Hawk wiski Proctologist?

      • wiski

        Yaknowwhat darthNihilus Komas Taberle Black_Hawk wiski ferrari ?

      • leafmealone

        Yaknowwhat darthNihilus Komas Taberle Black_Hawk wiski i ate a ferrari

      • mcloki

        Komas Taberle Yaknowwhat Black_Hawk wiski you are just wrong.;-)

      • wiski

        Yaknowwhat leafmealone darthNihilus Komas Taberle Black_Hawk wiski I ate a, was a given come on man 😉

      • wiski

        Komas Taberle Yaknowwhat Black_Hawk wiski Pfizer salesman. 😉

  • Claymish

    What would it take to get Smid from the Oilers? Gunner and a prospect?

    • Black_Hawk

      Claymish Gunner>smid

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Claymish Why not just sign Gunner? He’s better.

    • Claymish

      Smid would be an upgrade over Gunner, 5th highest Blocked Shot total, would be 1st on the Leafs (17 more than Fraser), 3rd in the league in Hits ( 2 less than Fraser)….umm while on that note…..all you Fraser hatters ( 2nd in the league to Schenn in hits, tied with Schenn for 15th in Blocked Shots, 2nd best plus/minus, 1st in PIM) wake up he is an excellent 5th D-man and will only get better.

      • Jordan29

        Claymish I know, I hope he resigns for cheap. If he could play both sides I can see Rielly starting with him

        • Claymish

          Jordan29 Claymish Oh ya I was forgetting his 9 Fighting Majors, only 4 behind the league leader Orr….There are alot of Marlie followers here, can Fraser play both sides? Who did he play with on the farm?

        • Jordan29

          Claymish Jordan29 Would love to know this. I would think its a perfect case to play Rielly along side him on the 3rd pairing. Nobody would tough him. That still doesnt really deal with Liles though who I dont think deserves to leave

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/mirtlehttps://twitter.com/mirtle/status/356828100601987073
    It’s ridiculous the stuff he gets… RT https://twitter.com/jtbourne: Man. People really, really do not like Dion Phaneuf – http://t.co/6gDExUwZGz

    • mcloki

      wiski It’s old senile, off his meds Watters. He’s been a jerk and a bully most of his life. ALWAys was a terrible sportscaster. Arrogant and self absorbed, I could never stand his pontificating Schtick. He just needs to stay in Florida  where he and the duchess can retire in obscurity. 
      Ine of the first guys on my list of terrible Toronto Sports writers. Thanks God we seem to loose one a year. Hopefully Healy will be gone this year.

      • wiski

        mcloki wiski I remember when he was still on am640 with dregs, he had Staal coming after Burkes self imposed deadline, pure BS

        • Pent_House

          wiski mcloki I was so happy when SN got rid of him for the panel on leaf games. He was tough to watch on TV.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Pent_House wiski mcloki Sure not fond of his replacement though…he’s just as bad.

        • Pent_House

          ingy56 Pent_House wiski mcloki Doug Mac is alright, he has times of stupidity and then other times he’s pretty decent. He’s far from my list of most hated guys on TV for hockey. Healey PJ stock, Simpson Hughson

        • wiski

          ingy56 Pent_House wiski mcloki Maybe I’m glad they’re blacked out,out east 😉

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Pent_House ingy56 wiski mcloki The stupidity that comes out of his mouth aside, I hate his continued interruptions and talking over top of people making their points. He’s right up there with the CBC dolts on my list, thankfully he’s just a reason to have a squirt and grab a snack during a game.

      • ShotgunCharlie

        mcloki wiski Yes. Bill Watters was upset yesterday because he went to a 3D movie and his glasses didnt work

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/ManlyAssholehttps://twitter.com/ManlyAsshole/status/356825033043214337
    It’s easy to pick out the bitch in a group of guys; it’s the one with pizza crust left on his plate when he’s done eating.