Thursday Morning Mashup: Gauthier Shows Well

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How many different ways can you debate the Leafs‘ remaining cap space? We’re working our way toward finding out.

While we lose our minds, several Leafs prospects are busy plying their trade against the best junior players in the world.  Yesterday, Canada took on Finland, which featured centerman Frederik Gauthier, winger Ryan Rupert, and defenseman Matt Finn. Dominic Toninato, although having made the first cut of the US Hockey National Junior Eval Camp, did not compete against Sweden.

Gauthier, who centered  fellow 2013 1st rounders Hunter Shinkaruk and Anthony Mantha on the 2nd line, had the strongest showing of all the Leafs prospects.  Corey Pronman was live-tweeting the game and had this to say about Gauthier’s performance (and a little on Finn):

 

MLHS’s very own Great Dane also happened to be in Lake Placid over the past 4 days and shared his thoughts on the Leafs’ prospects:

Now by chance I have been in Lake Placid the last 4 days and have been to the games between USA white/Blue against Sweden and Finland and today:

Canada vs. Finland and USA vs. Sweden.

I saw more or less pro scouts from all teams including a couple of ex Leafs like Brian Burke, JFJ jr. and McCabe. Leafs had a couple of scouts there including Claude Loiselle who has been here both days.

OK – so Leafs prospects:

Dominic Toninato: Did not have a particular good game on Monday and didn’t play for USA today. IMO a long shot for even making the Leafs if his performance on Monday isn’t a one time off.

Rupert is basically a royal pain and did get time on the PK and did a very good job. Could in a couple of years make the 4th line and be special team player.

Finn was a big surprise to me. Composed, skillful and able to order his team mates around to cover the ice. He has a good overview and is good at foreseeing how the game develops. Good outlet pass and he position himself well.

First two period Sutter had Finn on the first PK unit and he did an excellent job.

Gauthier was centering Shinaruk and Mantha and did a an excellent job. Sutter put out that line everytime that he needed to control the game. Good overview and positioning. Scored a goal which started with him gaining control of the puck and moving it forward.

Defensively he is a good as proclaimed and offensively he is in IMO a lot better than expected. In a couple of years he will be a really-really good defensive forward that can control the game and close down the other team while still contributing with a lot of offense.

Still needs to work on the faceoffs.

With Gauthier I think Nonis and Co made a steal at the draft.

Amid the dearth of hockey news, it’s refreshing to hear that the Leafs’ most recent 1st rounder is making the most of his opportunity in front of  Hockey Canada’s brass. I’m not in a position to handicap the likelihood of Gauthier making the final cut, but it would be a real treat if the Leafs could have Gauthier and Rielly competing together against the world’s best juniors come December. You’d have to think that his combination of size (at 6’4” 215 lbs., he’s the biggest kid at camp and likely not finished growing), defensive acumen and offensive contribution makes him a pretty versatile player.  If he continues his strong play, he is sure to make himself hard to ignore.

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Morning Links

Terry Koshan: Gauthier shines for Canada – Some encouraging quotes from Coach Brent Sutter

ESPN: Prime candidates: David Clarkson or Wendel Clark?What in the fu oh, ESPN

Kyle Cicerella: Marlies GM (Poulin) not concerned with lack of veteran quidance – Marlies should garner a lot of attention next season and beyond

National Post: Storm clouds brewing over NHL-ready Markham arenaThe nicest ($325 million) hurricane shelter you’ll ever see

VLM: 12 treasured moments in Maple Leafs historyMichael shares his most treasured Leafs memories, what are yours?

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Random aside: I’m sure I’m not the first to notice this, but if you look at the above picture, I’m pretty sure Gauthier’s hand is bigger than Nonis’ face. This is one monstrous kid. 

  • Burtonboy

    Morning Aaron . Truer words were never spoken . We’ve dissected the Leafs cap situation 500 ways till til Sunday. Worse case scenario is we sign Kadri and Franson for around 3 mil each and run a 21 man roster during the the first part of the season . Best case …… well lets wait and see just what that might be . 
    As for our prospects its nice to see the Leafs with players that can make an impact playing for their country. Who knows what we might have in Gauthier but one things for certain. He’s big .You can’t teach size and boy he’s certainly got that in spades . Like several have expressed already its time we got lucky and have a prospect over achieve.

    • Aaron Chan

      Good morning BB. I’m a big believing in creating your own luck, which is achieved through applying a consistent,rigorous, and adaptive method. It seems like the Leafs’ financial clout is being effectively deployed.

  • MaxwellHowe

    Thanks Aaron, and MLHS, for continuing to permit readers to see the many rays of sunshine beaming on our team.  So much doom and gloom with the MSM and other lesser Leaf websites.  Its summer – lets be happy and bask in the many positive attributes of the TML.
    There will be plenty of time to vent our angst over the salary cap.

  • Kouba

    Ha, so Great Dane is another MLHS insider. Thanks for report.
    I don’t know how does it look like from Canadian perspective but as an Euro fan I can say this site seems like a major Leafs force! :)

    • Aaron Chan

      I like the sounds of MLHS Insider. It’s got a nice ring to it. Was really happy Great Dane shared his thoughts with us.

      • Kouba

        Aaron Chanyou guys do really great job, I am not in any social media or any other sites or forums. I do not like to waste time on the internet, I have enough of it because of work, but this place is special. Also I am not a sycophant :)

  • Aaron Chan

    Thanks Murph. Thanks for reading.

    • mORRganRielly

      Aaron Chan Always a good read, buddy!

  • mORRganRielly

    Honestly, my friend was touting Gauthier as a Leafs pick back in February when he and I were talking prospects.  He kept saying that there were few players in the last several years with his combination of skating, skill, and hockey IQ.  And let me point out that my friend hates the QMJHL — said that it’s an indictment of the league’s inability to consistently produce NHL’ers.
    So kudos to my friend.  It’s going to be hard to stifle my enthusiasm for Gauthier given my friend’s prescience and how quickly he seems to be adapting / developing.
    I think it’s worth pointing out that a lot has been made about Gauthier’s ‘mediocre’ production — the fact is, the kid was injured in the middle of the season and his production suffered.  But not his defensive game.  The play seems to follow him around.   If the puck keeps following you around, then you’re clearly doing something right.  And the offense should follow.  When it comes to hockey sense and hockey IQ, I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that with Gauthier’s size and skill, the intelligence will push him into the NHL.  I guess we’re going to find out sooner rather than later if the offense comes with him.  
    Really excited about this pick.

    • MLHS_Luke

      mORRganRielly Good to know.  Appreciate this and the article – hadn’t heard much about Gauthier up to this point..

      • mORRganRielly

        TheCanucksnaphook MLHS_Luke Given the Leafs drafting since 2006, I see no reason to not be optimistic about the pick.  Their first round picks have all been acknowledged as great picks.  Biggs and Percy seem to be the only questions, but I don’t think it’s a question that both will make the NHL at some point.

      • mORRganRielly

        TheCanucksnaphook I did.  I also pointed out that they were furious over the Rielly pick.  Now here we are, watching them argue if Rielly is the next Karlsson or something stupid like that.

      • MaxwellHowe

        TheCanucksnaphook CanuckUKinToronto I love how the true blue on this site (myself included) simply cannot refer to that shitty team without a gratuitous swipe.  You know what I really look forward to in the coming years?  Watching those pricks come to hate the Leafs as much as we hate them

  • Dink

    It’s one exhibition game, I mean really

    • mORRganRielly

      TheCanucksnaphook -Keon- Oh, I was referring to the OTHER place.  I wasn’t paying attention to the MLHS comments during draft day.

  • Dink

    CanuckUKinToronto TheCanucksnaphook Holzer and D’Amigo I think will be dealt too

  • LeafsForLife

    Thank you for the work Aaron. As always, great job!
    Looking forward to seeing how high the ceiling is in potential for Gauthier. Seems like a rock solid pick.
    Go Leafs GO!

    • Aaron Chan

      Thanks,  LeafsForLife. Glad you enjoy our work. Can’t wait to get the season started. We’ve got some fun stuff planned!

      • Dink

        Aaron Chan LeafsForLife good stuff…I hope kid is a star, I just can’t get excited yet though…seen too many fall through the woodwork
        I think Tontihockey (usa) gets cut too

  • Dink

    TheCanucksnaphook  who?

  • B_Leaf

    -Keon- 
    I have had that feeling too. Someone on here mentioned he reminds them of Keith Primeau. That is exactly who he reminded me of with hos skating…I just couldn’t put a name on it.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/BuffaloSabreshttps://twitter.com/BuffaloSabres/status/365442230808350723
    Rick Jeanneret will call a reduced number of https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Sabres&src=hash games over the next three seasons. Dan Dunleavy will serve as his substitute.

    • Dink

      ingy56 lol again, who?

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        @Dink ingy56 Never heard Jeanneret? He’s a hoot…his LalalalalalalaFontaine call is a classic, as is ” Mayday, Mayday, Mayday!”

        • Dink

          ingy56 nope never have

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          @Dink ingy56 Great old school announcer, a lot like Bowen. Yes, he’s a homer but he’s quite entertaining.

    • Komas Taberle

      ingy56 Dan Dunleavy, the guy who tries to copy South American announcers when he does  soccer games… GoooooooooaaaaaaaaaaL. What a poser!

      • Dink

        Komas Taberle ingy56 lol

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Komas Taberle ingy56 I wouldn’t know, never watch soccer, but good that a Canadian gets the job.

  • B_Leaf

    Looking at our prospects who have not played in the NHL yet, in regards to overall value I think it goes something like this:
    1) Rielly, 2) Leivo, 3) Gauthier, 4) Finn, 5) Granberg, 6) D’Amigo, 7) Percy, 8) Biggs, 9) Toninato, 10) MacWilliams.
    What do you guys think, have I forgot anyone…Blacker, Broll, McKegg?

    • Dink

      B_Leaf  D’Amigo?

      • B_Leaf

        @Dink B_Leaf 
        D’Amigo?

    • Jmessih

      Morning all,
      I’d prob have Blacker ahead of MacWilliam then Nillson. MacWilliam would come in after that. I also think Broll is higher than MacWilliam but not higher than the other two.

      • B_Leaf

        Jmessih 
        Its hard to say with the limited amount we have seen in MacWilliam and the fact that he is 23, however Leafs brass has been talking about this guy for a while now…recently Hughes referred to him as a blue chipper. That is like saying he will play in the NHL without a doubt, so we shall see. Some people in college say they have never seen a guy hit like that…he breaks peoples bones when he hits…nice kid though.   : (

    • Dink

      B_Leaf  I have to look at prospects I think will play 1) Rielly, 2) Granberg, 3) Leivo, 4) Finn, 
      the rest are way too young or highly questionable

      • Komas Taberle

        @Dink B_Leaf In order of Leaf appearances as i see it..
        Granberg, MacWilliam, Rielly, Finn
        Leivo, Broll,Biggs, Gauthier

        • Dink

          Komas Taberle B_Leaf  Gauthier won’t play for years  damn lol

        • B_Leaf

          Komas Taberle B_Leaf 
          I was looking at overall value like say in a trade scenario…but as for who will most likely play this season…I would say Granberg, Leivo, MacWilliam. D’Amigo? makes the team out of camp I thinks.

        • Dink

          B_Leaf Komas Taberle lol 
          well maybe 1 of them

    • DWCMLHS

      B_Leaf I’d probably go:
      1. Rielly
      Projection: 2nd-pair Dman + 1st unit PPQB
      Potential: 1st-pair Dman + star 1st unit PPQB

      2. Percy
      Projection: 3rd-pair Dman
      Potential: 2nd-pair Dman

      3. Finn
      Projection: 3rd-pair Dman
      Potential: 2nd-pair Dman

      4. Gauthier
      Projection: 3rd-line forward
      Potential: 2nd-line forward

      5. Leivo
      Projection: Bottom-6 forward
      Potential: 2nd-line forward

      6. Biggs
      Projection: Bottom-6 forward
      Potential: 2nd-line forward

      Don’t have time to keep going before finishing getting ready for work.

      • Dan39

        DWCMLHS B_Leaf 
        I agree with this assessment, but would add Broll to the list – I think this guy is a lock for 4th line duty after 1-3 years in the A depending on his development and a roster spot opening for him. 
        Don’t know any of the Euros. 
        MacWilliam – there is no way this guy is ahead of Blacker, that’s absurd.

      • Greg Fenton

        DWCMLHS B_Leaf For the most part I agree. I think Rielly projects to be better then a 2nd pairing D-man, and his potential is higher then a 1st pairing guy. 
        I haven’t really seen anything to make me think Gauthier or Biggs have better then 3rd line potential

    • Dan39

      B_Leaf You guys talking about MacWilliam making the Leafs, I don’t understand this at all. If you watched him play with the Marlies, he was a frequent scratch last year (I understand the glut of players, but still) and he’ll be down the depth order this year. This guy isn’t even going to be top pair this year and probably not next year either on the Marlies. Saying he is likely to make the NHL at all, ever, is questionable in my mind based on what I’ve seen (which is a limited number of games, I admit).

      • Greg Fenton

        Dan39 B_Leaf Every year there are 1 or 2  prospects who attract fan attention, sometimes for a good reason, sometimes not. MacWilliam is just one of those guys this year. 
        Last year Holzer was viewed by many as a lock to make the team. After D’Amigo played well at the WJC many thought he was going end up a great top 6, steal for the Leafs. Stalberg was viewed with this kind of optimism when he left school. etc…

        • Dan39

          Greg Fenton Dan39 B_Leaf I guess… Is that just because of this hit:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ0hw9WqqBM

  • Komas Taberle

    Nice atricle Aaron, good work!
    I am really interested to follow Gauthier’s progression to the NHL.
    Bergeron was very annoyed when the Leafs grabbed him, he then went and selected a big goof who should have fallen to the 2nd round, so a double whammy for Montreal!

    • Dink

      Komas Taberle lol that big dude ever play you think?

      • Komas Taberle

        @Dink Komas Taberle Yeah he might play Dink, right now he is playing for team USA, he reminds me of Biggs with less talent, so their is a chance.

        • Dink

          Komas Taberle hahaha

        • Komas Taberle

          @Dink Komas Taberle He may take over for Parros in a couple of years, lol!

  • The_Polish_Cannon

    watching That’s Hockey and it’s frusterating how they’re saying Luongo and Price are locks and will be battling it out for the starting job. They focus too much on past accomplishments when it comes to these things. They both have the worst SV% out of the invitees and Price just looked god awful this year

    • B_Leaf

      The_Polish_Cannon 
      Yzerman and his team do an excellent job, except the goaltending part.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      The_Polish_Cannon Yet another reason why I’ll avoid the Olympics this year. Price is horrible, even my friends who worship the Scabs finally agree.

  • Dink

    I watched a lot of Leaf game highlights on NHL.Com last night (via my Roku) and the team sure looked good. Let us hope that just progresses as I think it will.
    Reimer looked good too, but Scrivens looked awful shaky ..even in games he won.

    • B_Leaf

      @Dink 
      We should be good if we continue to get internal improvement from Gards, Naz, the goalies, JVR, Franson, and Kessel. We are a team with several players still trending up and no one trending down…no one!

      • Dink

        B_LeafI hope so and I believe so, Carlyles’ system won’t be a big mystery to anyone now (except maybe newcomers) ..
        Leafs are going to be in a lot of games for sure
        (did I say that about the Jays?)

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/IgorEronko
    Sport-express.ru reports https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Jets&src=hash F Nikolai Antropov will play in https://twitter.com/search?q=%23KHL&src=hash next season

    • B_Leaf

      Burtonboy 
      That is a loss for them…he was good last year against us. He is getting older though.

      • mlclearwater

        B_Leaf Burtonboy Fuck em. 6’6 and plays like he is 5’5. dare I say hockeys Andrea Barnangi

        • Komas Taberle

          mlclearwater B_Leaf Burtonboy Maybe Grabo goes there now!

        • mlclearwater

          Komas Taberle mlclearwater B_Leaf Burtonboy Who know where that little fella is heading. But i do know this, he will play his nuts off against us, and he will be a turn over machine who plays sloppy hockey against everyone

        • Komas Taberle

          mlclearwater Komas Taberle B_Leaf Burtonboy You are right, he will play terrific against the Habs and the Leafs and have more giveaways than a garage sale at 8:00pm the rest of the season.

        • mlclearwater

          Komas Taberle mlclearwater B_Leaf Burtonboy Yep, if you watch him last yr for example, he can skate around half the opposing team and then passes the puck 4 feet behind his winger or fires the puck way wide of the net. I like Grabbo and maybe last yr was just a bad time for him, but shit

        • Komas Taberle

          mlclearwater Komas Taberle B_Leaf Burtonboy I like Grabo too, but last year he was a liability, good luck to him.

  • mlclearwater

    Im reading a lot of Nucks fans are pretty happy with Horvat and Shink. As much as I do like those picks consider this Van Fans
    1) Hodgson traded for Kassian who saw plenty of 4th line duty while Hodgson broke out with Buff
    2) Grabner put on waivers
    3) Schneider, traded for Horvat
    4) Schroeder, being developed like a sack of shit

    • B_Leaf

      mlclearwater 
      Schroeder is way over rated as a prospect…D’Amigo probably has more value on the market than him. They have a shallow pool. Horvat was a great pick though.

      • mlclearwater

        B_Leaf mlclearwater I agree, my point was they manage their prospects like shit and will probably continue to do so as long as fat head is in charge. Horvat seems like he’ll be a beaut but their development track record is shaky lately

    • Aaron Chan

      mlclearwater I’ve heard a lot of Canucks bloggers complaining about how there is no insurance policy for Ryan Kesler. I hate to break it to them but they sold their policy to a water buffalo.

      • mlclearwater

        Aaron Chan mlclearwater Forget who it was against but Hodgson scored a disgusting goal last year and operated at almost a ppg pace, albeit a shortened season. I like the kid, Kassian meh. He can kinda score when he plays with the Sedins, but so could we

  • Aaron Chan

    https://twitter.com/SNHockeyCentral

    https://twitter.com/SNHockeyCentral/status/365461153394065409

    ICYMI: Doug Gilmour traded his son http://bit.ly/14nOVeX

    • mlclearwater

      Aaron Chan if my son had 6 assists in 40 something games I’d trade him too!

      • Komas Taberle

        mlclearwater Aaron Chan I heard he wants to go play in the NCAA.

    • phaneufoundlander

      and he gave his only begotten son…must be special :)

    • Leafs rule

      Aaron Chan Ill bet that was atough decision but old killer was /is tough

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/FAN590
    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Leafs&src=hash forward https://twitter.com/PKessel81 joins https://twitter.com/RadioVendetta next on The Jeff Blair Show.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Burtonboy Should be earth-shattering.

      • Burtonboy

        ingy56 Burtonboy He’s better on radio then TV from the sounds of it so far lol

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Burtonboy ingy56 Yes, I agree. Sounds relaxed.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          TheCanucksnaphook ingy56 Burtonboy Joey Vendetta is a good interviewer too. Blair should fill in for him instead of the other way around.

        • Burtonboy

          ingy56 TheCanucksnaphook Burtonboy You got that right.lol

        • MLHS_Luke

          ingy56 TheCanucksnaphook Burtonboy Yea but I hear Joey can really hold a grudge..

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          MLHS_Luke ingy56 TheCanucksnaphook Burtonboy Did not know that, I remember him from Q107.

        • MLHS_Luke

          ingy56 MLHS_Luke TheCanucksnaphook Burtonboy Tough crowd…his last name is Vendetta…

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          MLHS_Luke ingy56 TheCanucksnaphook Burtonboy Haha….that one flew right over , I’ll try and stay sharper.

    • Jmessih

      Can someone post the link for the interview after it is aired? If that is possible. Thanks

      • Burtonboy

        Jmessih
        http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/
        Should be on the front page in a bit

        • Jmessih

          Thanks

  • Aaron Chan

    Where’s Cam?

    • Burtonboy

      Aaron Chan Haven’t seen him around in a while . Probably on Vacation or taking a break

      • Dink

        Burtonboy Aaron Chan think he mentioned a camp

        • B_Leaf

          @Dink Burtonboy Aaron Chan 
          Cam free zone he said for a few weeks…lol

  • Burtonboy

    The Winnipeg Nyets eh. Beginning to look like it lol

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/EricOnSportsLaw
    Forbes: NHL to take over Devils; $230M in debt and team owner Jeff Vanderbeek missed the first payment on a recently restructured bank loan

    • Dink

      Burtonboy  
      oy !

  • Aaron Chan

    Does this mean Gauthier and Finn will see more action against Sweden today?
    https://twitter.com/koshtorontosun

    https://twitter.com/koshtorontosun/status/365470709125885952

    Canada scratches vs. Sweden today: Comrie, Heatherington, Matheson, Morrissey …

    • ErikGruber

      Aaron Chan I hope they play against USA on saturday. That’s the one I bought

      • Aaron Chan

        ErikGruber Aaron Chan Let’s hope the kids have another strong showing today.

  • Aaron Chan

    https://twitter.com/koshtorontosun

    https://twitter.com/koshtorontosun/status/365471315777433601

    … Shinkaruk, Wilson, Girard, Petan, Laughton, Reinhart, Leipsic

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/EricOnSportsLaw
    Forbes: NHL would fund and operate the team while it sought a buyer; Devils owe NHL about $25M

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Burtonboy Good Lord, one charity case goes out the door and another comes in the back.

      • Burtonboy

        ingy56 Burtonboy This one shouldn’t last long . Philadelphia 76 Sixers owner who has oddles is after the franchise apparently

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Burtonboy ingy56 Heard that tune before LOL.

        • Burtonboy

          ingy56 Burtonboy I know. Think this one is a bit different though . East coast team in a huge market . Someone will grab this one very quickly

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Burtonboy ingy56 Yes, probably right. I think they missed the boat by not moving to Brooklyn, Wang scooped them. I think the owner of the Nets was interested too and he has very deep pockets.

  • Dink

    -Keon- yes

  • colino17

    Anybody on here use Hockeystreams? And more specifically does anyone use it with the XBMC addon? I have Gamecenter currently but was wondering if HS was a better option…I know there was a brief discussion yesterday.

    • wiski

      colino17 I tested it during the lock out for Marlie games, not all were HD. NHL games were the same quality as game center and no black outs. I tried the xbmc link but had password problems probably on my end cause people in the forums say it works.

      • colino17

        wiski colino17 The xbmc addon is what I’m worried about…right now Gamecenter works awesome on all my HTPCs…I don’t want to fuck that up…but no blackouts and cheaper price sounds awesome

        • wiski

          colino17 wiski It’s cute add on but you don’t really need it. I like the fact you can watch the marlies as well

      • colino17

        -Keon- Yeah country internet is rough

      • mcloki

        -Keon- Does your laptop have old wifi. It could just have Wifi A or B. not N.

      • Dink

        mcloki -Keon- Is something like that upgradeable and how do you know what you got?

  • Aaron Chan

    If you guys are interested in paying $8 today’s game against Sweden, here is the link: 
    http://usahockey.fasthockey.com/
    Crowd source $8 and stream it on a justivTV channel?

    • Aaron Chan

      -Keon- That’s odd because I just created an account with fast hockey

      • Aaron Chan

        -Keon- Was going to say, try this: http://usahockey.fasthockey.com/login.php

    • Doorman

      -Keon- Will be at uncle Ottis,s place on the 19th.  he says you and mind Bomb are welcome!  Going to do some fishing and some wobbly pops!!!  lol

      • Doorman

        -Keon- Does he know that?  I will be talking to him this week.  I will be up in Elliot Lake!  Great fishing there!

      • Doorman

        -Keon-Are you going to pop in???

  • wiski

    Not sure who it was last night but they were comparing our boy Gauthier to Primau

    • Burtonboy

      wiski Zep

      • wiski

        Burtonboy wiski that’s it thks BB

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      wiski As long as it wasn’t Wayne Primeau I’m impressed.

      • wiski

        ingy56 wiski I was gonna say that last night. lol I think he meant Kieth.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          wiski ingy56 Whew.

        • B_Leaf

          ingy56 wiski 
          Keith is a really good comparison. He actually looks just like him when skating.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Too bad the Leafs can’t trade cash, Liles and $25 million to NJ for a 2nd.

    • wiski

      ingy56 Maybe Marty comes home to finish off his career. 😉

  • LightmyLeaf

    Hi All – I’m a newbie, but been here for a while, Phook welcomed me yesterday. I almost jump in on the “ultimate negative Leaf Fan” debacle…hats off to B_Leaf, Dink and others for the fight…I got dizzy. I’m an agnostic…I have to be, (Leaf fan for 45 years) and in reflection to our team “hitting the ceiling” (not) does anyone know where we sit according to “overall average age”, as a team in comparison to the rest of the NHL? Last year we were almost tied with Edmonton for being the youngest team(I think) and I can’t imagine we are far off this year. Go Leafs Go! and It looks like this is a “top 4″ year

    • Dink

      LightmyLeaf lol welcome

    • Burtonboy

      LightmyLeaf Welcome aboard sport

    • B_Leaf

      LightmyLeaf 
      Cheers and welcome!

    • Doorman

      LightmyLeaf Nice Handle!!!  Lol

      • LightmyLeaf

        Doorman LightmyLeaf Thanks, I think I’ll tell my kids “its from a Doors Song”….:)

        • Doorman

          LightmyLeaf Doorman The dont know who the Doors are!!!  lol

        • LightmyLeaf

          Doorman LightmyLeaf true, although they have heard a few and don’t know it….subconscious recognition….:) my boy is huge Kessel fan, I’ll blame it on him….”light my favorite Leaf player”! ….ya that’s it….

        • Doorman

          LightmyLeaf Doorman This is The End!!!  lol

        • Burtonboy

          Doorman LightmyLeaf Apocalypses Now lol

        • Doorman

          Burtonboy Doorman LightmyLeaf Where is the link???  lol

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Doorman LightmyLeaf Repent ye sinner….I can send you some magazines to read on your vacation LOL.

        • Burtonboy

          Doorman Burtonboy LightmyLeaf
          http://www.youtube.com/        lol

        • Doorman

          ingy56 Doorman LightmyLeaf I,ll need some good fire starter!!!  send them down!!!  Lol

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Doorman  Good fish wrap too.

    • mcloki

      LightmyLeaf Welcome aboard. Just some friendly word of advice. GO to settings in Livefyre and turn off e-mail notifications or you’ll be inundated with spam. Get a avatar, make it easier to recognize who you are, Keep posting. Welcome aboard.

      • LightmyLeaf

        mcloki LightmyLeaf found out yesterday, turned off. Will work on the Avatar….Thanks

        • mcloki

          LightmyLeaf mcloki Great. Learned the hard way myself. lol.

        • Jmessih

          Same :(
          But I got it figure out now!! :)

        • LePetomane

          LightmyLeaf mcloki huh

    • Aaron Chan

      LightmyLeaf Welcome!

    • Greg Fenton

      Murph2417 LightmyLeaf which at the end of the day is not an indicator of potential. 
      Ottawa and Buffalo are younger, is anyone going to argue that those teams have great, untapped potential at this point? THe Oilers and Avs are older, do they have less potential and room to grow even though they are loaded with with young talent? (Leafs don’t a single player ont he roster under 23 (Kadri will be 23 by the time the season starts), the Oilers have 4 (5 if Nurse plays), Avs have 6).

      • MaxwellHowe

        Greg Fenton Murph2417 LightmyLeaf Greg, always the naysayer.  All things being equal, surely being the third youngest team is better than being the third oldest.

      • Greg Fenton

        MaxwellHowe Greg Fenton Murph2417 LightmyLeaf I believe I also pointed out that the Senators and Sabers aren’t great young, up and coming teams just because they have lower average ages thent he Leafs. Thats not being a naysayer, just pointing out its a false indicator to what lightmyleaf was suggesting (even though murph didn’t catch that). 
        The 3rd oldest team is the Penguins….I think I’d take their roster and development system straight up for the Leafs. And they are less then 30 months older then the Leafs (on average). 
        Sure having guys at 26 is better then having them at 36, or even 32. I’m just pointing out it isnt’ an indicator of overall potential.

      • MaxwellHowe

        Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Murph2417 LightmyLeaf I would suggest 25 year olds are more likey to improve than 35 year olds.  That goes for just about any endeavour.

      • Jmessih

        @Murph2417 Your comment killed me I loled hard at work!!!!

    • LightmyLeaf

      Murph2417 LightmyLeaf Thanks Murph – so to avoid trusting stats, to get a “glimpse” at almost beating a final two team, last year in the playoffs, has to mean we have the highest potential for growth, from the highest starting point, of any young team in the NHL…meaning the ceiling is way up there….I thought so….not so dizzy now….

  • Doorman

    WO HOO!!!  Fucking Holidays for the next Month!!! Fishing, Drinking;  Golfing, Drinking;  Drinking!!!  Lol

    • LightmyLeaf

      TheCanucksnaphook Doorman that sounds like no kids to me…..or a wife…..perchance to dream….I’m gonna rub me a bottle….

    • Leafs rule

      Doorman Uhhh calling Mr Doorman this is work calling ,we need u and U r the only one !Please call ASAP

    • dlb eh

      Doorman 
      you’re going to be worn out , good for you ya big dumbass

  • Mcost61

    NHL is going to carry NJD. They used to be a strong franchise

    • MaxwellHowe

      Mcost61 Years of dull playing style may finally be catching up to them.  Sure they made it to the final a couple of years back, but I can’t imagine the eternal boredom of a Devil’s fan.

      • wiski

        MaxwellHowe Mcost61 And putting the new rink in the harlem of jersey didn’t help either.

        • Greg Fenton

          wiski MaxwellHowe Mcost61 Wouldn’t that include all of New Jersey?

        • wiski

          Greg Fenton wiski MaxwellHowe Mcost61 LOL there are some parts worse than others.

        • rustynail

          Greg Fenton wiski MaxwellHowe Mcost61 most of NJ is actual;ly pretty nice, just nowt Compton or Newark

      • Greg Fenton

        MaxwellHowe Mcost61 They are market like Dallas and Pittsburgh and Colorado. Good when they are successful.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 I don’t think Jersey even drew well when they were winning Cups. The playoff games were full but I can sure remember some weeknight games against the Leafs where the crowd knew each other by first names.

        • Greg Fenton

          ingy56 Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 I used to date a Devils fans, I saw a lot of Devils games.
          They never packed them in like the Leafs, but they didn’t have to give tickets away like in Florida or Phoenix. Certainly didn’t need to be supported by the league.

        • MLHS_Luke

          Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 I’ve mentioned this several times before, but myself and two friends walked up the the Prudential Center a few years back, when they were playing (I think) Carolina in the second round of the playoffs.  Long story short, we were given free tickets.  Giving away tickets in the playoffs doesn’t sound successful to me..

        • mcloki

          MLHS_Luke Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 It was Carolina.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 Another argument against the silly salary cap.  These teams need to spend and invest in order to  build perpetually competitive teams that will attract fans.  I know you don’t agree.  I know.

        • Greg Fenton

          MLHS_Luke Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 They also raised their ticket prices last year, meaning there is/was demand for tickets. They don’t have to give you 2 tickets, free parking, 2 hot dogs, and a 40oz for 7.50 to get you in the door (or whatever that deal was they were doing).

        • Greg Fenton

          MaxwellHowe Greg Fenton Mcost61 How is that any argument against the cap? You mean that thing that forces to spend min. amount on their team is stopping from being competitive?

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Greg Fenton ingy56 MaxwellHowe Mcost61 Yeah, maybe it was just because they were playing the Leafs, although I remember lots of Leaf fans in the stands. Probably drew better against the Rangers and Flyers.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 Late 90s.  Early 00s.  Prior to the cap.  What did the Devils, Stars and Avalanche, the teams we are discussing, have in common?  Hint, it invoves a lotta fans and a few Stanley Cups.

        • Greg Fenton

          MaxwellHowe Greg Fenton Mcost61 And was it the cap that ended that, or Niedermayer going to play with his brother and Stevens retiring? And Sakic getting older, Forsberg leaving, Blake retiring, Roy retiring. And Modano getting older and leaving etc…. 
          And right now the Devils and Avs are 25th and 26th in spending, Dallas is 12th. Spending hasn’t helped the Stars, and nothing is stopping the Devils and Avs from spending the 7-10 million they still have to be more competitive. 
          There was a 9 year period wer the Devils won 3 cups, the Wings won 3, the Avs won 2 and the Stars won 1. The cap didn’t kill those teams, time did. They had some of the best players int he world at the time, and they got old and declined, and moved on and retired. You could argue the cap made it so they couldn’t sign Forsberg or Hatcher or Niedermayer, but who know sif those players would have stayed anyway, and even then it would have only delayed their declines. The Wings are still competitive because they got lucky with Datsyuk and Zetterberg who stepped in and took over for Yzerman and Fedorov, and because Lidstrom played until he was 73.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 When these teams could spend big, they did spend big.  They were competitiive and the fans flocked.  Now they can’t spend big (though NJD tried mightly with Kavalchuk) and they tumble into mediocrity.  Fan support dwindles. 
          This is the salary cap in action.  I can only hope the NHL sees the light and rids itself of this policy once the next CBA is negotiated.
          The salary cap is only a means to keep ridiculous expansion teams viable – and attract new ones.  So the owners get their big expanion fees.

        • DJBrianBurke

          ingy56 Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 There were empty seats in the finals versus the Avs.
          There should be a rule. If you don’t sell out the finals, especially game 6/7. You lose your franchise. Canes, Bolts and Panthers all sold out during their runs. What was the Devils excuse.
          I never, ever bought their idea that it was the location of the building.

        • rustynail

          DJBrianBurke ingy56 Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 Going into Newark after dark is damn scary

        • Greg Fenton

          MaxwellHowe Greg Fenton Mcost61 They still spend big – how many teams spent 64-70 million before the lock-out? Nothing stopping them from spending to cap now, and none of them are. 
          As I said, it wasn’ tht ecap it was time. Were would the Devils be now even if the yhad kept Niedermayer? Or the Avs since none of their great players from 10 years ago still active? Why is it hte Wings are still competitive and they aren’t? Its all about talent, and the fact that one of those teams was able to replace their franchise talent in 3 weren’t. Spending money wouldn’t have fixed that problem. And in 10 or 15 years, the Penguins will be in a similar position. 
          I agree there are too many teams and teams in markets that can’t and don’t want to support a hockey team. But hte cap didn’t kill the markts you are taking about.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          rustynail DJBrianBurke ingy56 Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61https://twitter.com/NHLhistorygirlhttps://twitter.com/NHLhistorygirl/status/365510412743090178
          During the playoffs, Jacques Lemaire made https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NJDevils&src=hash stay at the Glenpointe Marriott during home games. Players called it “Gunpoint Marriott”

        • Greg Fenton

          MaxwellHowe Greg Fenton Mcost61 Your assumption that spending big = being competitive isn’t wrong. If it was correct the Leafs, who have almost always (if not always) spend the cap would have been one of the msot competitive teams since the first lock-out.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 My assumption is that you fucked up the first sentence of your argument.  My argument is that when you introduce artificial restraints to a free market economy, the result is usually general fuckery.

        • Greg Fenton

          MaxwellHowe Greg Fenton Mcost61 I think the recent USA banking and housing issues would make the case for restraints being a good thing. 
          But in the case of the NHL, thats a fine position/theory to have. But the Avs, Stars and Devils not being as good now as they were 10 years isn’t evidence of it. YOu could maybe make the argument that the cap hurt those teams since they had let Forsberg and Hatcher walk (Niedermayer…..he might have walked anyway) but I dunno what effect retaining Forsberg in 2005 would have ont he team today.  
          The system is far from perfect, and the fact that many of the teams the cap was designed to help are still in bad position would indicate it hasn’t helped those teams.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 I have no problem with a reasonable luxury tax that permits reasonable profit sharing.  But the salary cap hurts markets with many fans or many potential fans

        • Greg Fenton

          MaxwellHowe Greg Fenton Mcost61 Only if the team is mismanaged. 
          Lots of teams have been very successful under the cap. Its more on the mismanagement of the Avs and Stars and the refusal of the Devils to fully commit to the rebuilding that club needs, that have lead to those teams down falls.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Mcost61 
          C’mon, saying those teams were mismanaged is a cop out, something we can’t measure or really discuss.  15 years ago those teams were praised for the mgt.  Then that same mgt. forgot what they were doing?  Please.  The only variable that changed for all those teams at the very moment their fortunes changed was the salary cap.

        • Greg Fenton

          MaxwellHowe Greg Fenton Mcost61 I would say a failure to realize your best talent is getting old, moving on and retiring and then trying to avoid doing what got you that great talent int he first place is mismanagement. Also, I would bet the majority of the management in place in Dallas and Colorado in 2000 is not there today.  
          The Av’s aren’t as bad as the Stars, they seem (for the most part) to accept rebuilding. But the Devils are just trying to everythin to avoid it, same with the Stars. 
          Yes the cap came in, but they also all had aging star players. The cap didn’t age their players. Its not like befor ethe cap Sakic and Forsberg and Blake and Roy were going to play forever. The Red Wings had to deal with the cap and got out of it just fine. The difference is they landed Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

        • dlb eh

          hell, Leafs to go into full rebuild mode? let’s trade everyone picks as possible.  maybe we can trade Kessel and Gardiner for McKinnon (Fenton, is he good enough?)
          let’s play the Marlies this year and hope to get some lottery picks the next 2 years where we can snag McDavid and whoever.
          then we’ll wait for them to make it, and we’ll plug them in to our lineup of 3rd and 4th liners and expect to win in a few years.
          easy.  as.  pie.

        • dlb eh

          only a few years ago the Stars had aging star players (Turko, Modano) but also had prime aged players (Ribero, Richards, Ott, Robidas) and young risinig stars (Neal, Erisksson) and had just drafted future cornerstones (Benn, Larsen)
          that looks like a core i could build around. why would i “start over”?
          NJ same thing.

        • Greg Fenton

          dlb eh I’d prefer it to playing a middle of the pack and playoff team that isn’t a real contender for the next 5 years. But, unlike you, I want to see the Leafs win cup. You’re happy just watching them play hockey.

        • Greg Fenton

          dlb eh When Richards was there they played a total of 18 playoff games over 4 years, and missed the playoffs 3 times in 4 years. Not exactly the results of a group good enough to contend for a cup. And if you think Benn and Larsen are franchise players…..well I’m not surprised you think Kessel and Phaneuf are as well. Hell,if you Benn and Larsen are franchise players, half the league probaby is your eyes. 
          Except for 2012, the Devils have been extremely mediocre since the lock-out. They were riding Brodeur for all they could. Tried to avoid rebuilding by signing Kovalchuk, then Schnieder, and now apparently they are trying to get Vanek……

  • wiski

    For Uncle Otis  https://twitter.com/CP24https://twitter.com/CP24/status/365496883940036609
    Man charged with impaired driving after sailboat crash within Toronto Islands. http://t.co/v7XROIxBvA

    • Leafs rule

      wiskicollided with a power vessel that was docked,oops thats a no no and no it wasnt me

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      wiski Must have been the kicker motor that did him in.

    • Doorman

      wiski Uncle Otis is only allowed in a row boat!!!  lol

      • Leafs rule

        Doorman wiski Lmao  Doorman what a card , lol

        • Doorman

          Leafs rule Doorman wiski Jimmy;  Is that You???  lol

        • Leafs rule

          Doorman Leafs rule wiski lmao ,uhhh nope ,looking innocent of joking on Sailer being charged with impaired navagation story

  • Mcost61

    James van Riemsdyk ‏@JVReemer21 https://twitter.com/JVReemer21/status/365499751669579776
    “https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat: LA Restaurant creates water menu, because the world didn’t have enough douchebags
    I like this guy

    • Jmessih

      JVR has pretty funny stuff on his twitter, one of the better Leafs to follow

    • Doorman

      Mcost61 Wonder if they have toilet water on that menu???  My dog loves that stuff!!!  lol

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Doorman Mcost61 They’ll sell bidet water instead.

        • Doorman

          ingy56 Doorman Mcost61 Flavoured water;  Nice!!!  lol

  • CallumConnorKnight

    My Cats breath smells like cat food.

    • Greg Fenton

      CallumConnorKnight Go banana

    • Doorman

      CallumConnorKnight Thats better then some of the pussies I ve smelled!!!  lol

      • Leafs rule

        DoormanCallumConnorKnightLMAO U ,heres something ”
        CNSNews.com)
        – Two men have been charged in a conspiracy of trafficking in fake
        Viagra, the Justice Department announced on Tuesday.
        – See more at:
        http://cnsnews.com/news/article/men-charged-smuggling-19319-tablets-counterfeit-viagra#sthash.oBrMTfmB.dpuf     better run Mr lol

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Leafs rule Doorman CallumConnorKnight I hope they get a stiff sentence.

        • Doorman

          ingy56 Leafs rule Doorman CallumConnorKnight Not with those pills!!!  lol

        • Leafs rule

          ingy56 Leafs rule Doorman CallumConnorKnight ROFLMAO

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Leafs rule ingy56 Doorman CallumConnorKnight They’ll do some hard time for sure.

    • Doorman

      CallumConnorKnight Give your mangy cat a shot of tooth paste!  They cant spit so the tooth past just keeps on foaming!!!  priceless!!!  lol

      • Leafs rule

        Doorman CallumConnorKnight Foaming mouth of cat is not rabies lol,confusious say

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Doorman CallumConnorKnight Neighbour then shoots rabid cat.

        • Doorman

          ingy56 Doorman CallumConnorKnight I did that to my cat when I was 10!  lol

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Doorman ingy56 CallumConnorKnight Which begs the question, how did you know a cat couldn’t spit? LOL

        • Leafs rule

          ingy56 Doorman CallumConnorKnight LMAO ,

        • Leafs rule

          Doorman ingy56 CallumConnorKnight bad ass boy still at large lmao

        • Doorman

          ingy56 Doorman CallumConnorKnight Because all he could do was stick his tongue out.  Meanwhile the tooth paste just kept on foaming!!!  I could write a book on how to torture a cat!!!  lol

        • Leafs rule

          Doorman ingy56 CallumConnorKnight PETA has u on their most wanted list Doorman

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Doorman ingy56 CallumConnorKnight Got a book around here somewhere called 1001 Uses For A Dead Cat. It’s hilarious and I’m a cat lover.

        • Doorman

          ingy56 Doorman CallumConnorKnight Try Bandaids on their paws!  one at a time of course!!!  lol

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Doorman ingy56 CallumConnorKnight I had an old bulldog that I used to feed peanut Butter mounded on a cracker too. She’d open up and I’d stick it to the roof of her mouth. Took an hour for her to get it unstuck and down into the belly. Then she’d take another one right away. Used to do the same thing with the candy kisses from Halloween.

        • Doorman

          ingy56 Doorman CallumConnorKnight Fun Eh !!!  Lol

        • rustynail

          Leafs rule Doorman ingy56 CallumConnorKnight  PETA euthanizes more animals a year than anybody

    • dlb eh

      CallumConnorKnight 
      Gramma had hair like that when she went to sleep in her forever box

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/koshtorontosunhttps://twitter.com/koshtorontosun/status/365509203957256193
    Dominic Toninato will centre a line with Jake Guentzel and Michael McCarron in US game vs. Finland this afternoon https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Leafs&src=hash

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/TGfireandicehttps://twitter.com/TGfireandice/status/365502471906394112
    Gary Bettman says report NHL has plans to take over Devils is inaccurate.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      rustynail “All is well”, quotes right out of the Phoenix playbook that didn’t even make it back to the bookcase.

      • rustynail

        ingy56 rustynail exactly my thoughts

        • LightmyLeaf

          rustynail ingy56 maybe its gonna be the Nordique-Devils

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          LightmyLeaf rustynail ingy56 If it is, it won’t be Gary’s idea. It’ll be the Las Vegas Blackjacks before that happens.

        • rustynail

          ingy56 LightmyLeaf rustynail Seattle Slumbers

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          rustynail ingy56 LightmyLeaf Yep, I hear he is saving those cities for expansion, but I’d bet he would move a team there first before coming to Canada.

  • mlclearwater

    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/08/reimer-vs-bernier-who-ya-got/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
    Not a great or innovative article but food for thought. Keep in mind Carlyle elected to start Scrivens over Reimer last yr as well (although Scrivens was ‘warmer’ due to lockout)

  • Jmessih

    We should have some decent updates tonight for some leafs talk with Gautieur, Rupert, Finn and Toninato all dressing for their nations tonight. Hopefully they all play great!

    • Leafs rule

      Jmessih Thinking the same way here ,Gautieur get 2 goals 3 assts

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Jmessih Gauthier’s back in the lineup today then? Nice.

      • Jmessih

        He should be in, there was a tweet that listed all the scratches and he was not among them. 5 points seems a little high. I would be very happy with a solid defensive game, winning some board battles and 1 point. Remember Brent Sutter is the coach, defenisve is a priority.

        • Leafs rule

          Jmessih A little high ok then 2 an 2 but no less ,Brent let the man play

        • Jmessih

          Nothing less or he is a bust lol
          I’m excited for this years world jrs hopefully a couple leaf playrs will be ther and I like Canada’s team

        • Leafs rule

          Jmessih Go Canada go ,Canadian hockey players are the best as we all know lol

        • Jmessih

          Of course they are.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/APetriellihttps://twitter.com/APetrielli/status/365512440458395648
    I don’t know why people are surprised that Gauthier’s good offensively (including Leafs mgmt). He was basically PPG in his 1ST year in the Q

    • Jmessih

      B/c it is the Q anyone can score there. Also I honestly think mgmt was just tempering the expectations.

      • Robbies

        Memorial Cup champs come from where?

        • Komas Taberle

          Robbies The Q has changed, much better hockey players in the league now.

        • DWCMLHS

          Scoring is still higher in the QMJHL than the OHL or WHL, though.
          Gauthier scoring a point-per-game in his draft year is alright, but nothing special. He still projects as a 3rd-line defensive specialist, IMO. Could be a good 2-way 2nd-liner if we get a little bit lucky.

        • dlb eh

          DWCMLHS 
          sounds like the kind of guy that Carlyle wishes Grabovski was last year.
          i know it’s only imagining, but … in 3 years
          Lupul-Kadri-Kessel
          JVR-Bozak/Bolland-Clarkson
          Biggs-Gauthier-Ross
          Broll-Crescenzi-Ashton/Devane (whatever haha, it’s that 3rd line checking line i’m thinking of…imagine if they were all 15 goal scorers too haha)

        • Jmessih

          It is a much higher scoring league, just look at the number of players drafted from each leagure over the past 5 years the Q is no where near the totals of the WHL and the OHL

        • Leafs rule

          dlb eh DWCMLHS Lovin that 3 rd line ,I m hoping Biggs get better fast

        • dlb eh

          Leafs rule
          at the very worst Biggs has size and can skate and hit…and he naturally “gets” the defensive side of the game.
          he could possibly play on any top line too (i wouldnt limit him at this point), not to be a point getter, but to be the defensive conscience and a physical presence. especially with kids Reilly and Gardiner looking to jump into the rush…

        • Leafs rule

          dlb ehLeafs ruleat the very worst Biggs has size and can skate and hit…and I agree ,with some polish he could very well surprise us all

  • Doorman

    Night Kids!  Got  to catch a plane tonight!!!

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Doorman I’ll alert the media……safe journey.

    • Leafs rule

      Doorman Not stopping at a cathouse soon r lmao U

  • Jimmy Keating

    The Ottawa Senators will be the best team in the league, the Toronto Maple Leafs were the luckiest in the league last season, Alexander Mogilny is Steven Stamkos’ closest historical match and Toronto is expected to be 28th in the league next season.http://theleafsnation.com/2013/8/7/rob-vollmans-hockey-abstract

    • MLHS_Luke

      Jimmy Keating Drugs.  Not even once.

      • Komas Taberle

        MLHS_Luke Jimmy Keating Wasn’t his father Clause Vollman, architect of the Nazi internment camps , same dementia I think.

        • MLHS_Luke

          Komas Taberle I consider myself cautious (bordering on pessimistic some days) fan. That said, you just can’t take a growing team that finished 5th (in the East), then claim they will be 2nd last in the league, and not expect to be called an idiot.
          Could it happen? Sure.  Could they just as easily win their division? Yup.  
          Pure trolling, that.

    • MaxwellHowe

      Jimmy Keating Oh well then.  We’ll get that elite player finally :)

      • Greg Fenton

        MaxwellHowe Jimmy Keating We can hope. Though they are probably too good to finish 28th.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Greg Fenton MaxwellHowe Jimmy Keating I knew that only you would be heartened about the possibility of a complete tank.   But your heart is in the right place.

        • dlb eh

          MaxwellHowe Greg Fenton Jimmy Keating 
          you know that’s Fenton’s blog right?

        • MaxwellHowe

          dlb eh MaxwellHowe Greg Fenton Jimmy Keating 
          He has a blog.  Oh well.  Probably blogsout there about screaming spider monkeys too.  I do know he consistently goes on about the need for elite talent and the Leafs lack of same.

      • Greg Fenton

        MaxwellHowe Jimmy Keating Reinhart, Ekblad……….

    • GeorgeCastanza

      Jimmy Keating I D I O T

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        GeorgeCastanza Jimmy Keating Once they start measuring luck, I’m out. Think I’d rather read Simmons latest column or head over to the dentist for a root canal without anesthetic.

        • Leafs rule

          ingy56GeorgeCastanzaJimmy Keating  re  without anesthetic. ,O hell no LMAo

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Leafs rule ingy56 GeorgeCastanza Jimmy Keating Yeah, on second thought maybe I’ll read one of Simmon’s “books” instead hahaha…..

        • Leafs rule

          ingy56 Leafs rule GeorgeCastanza Jimmy Keating  lol u must be real bored ,Im sorry to say ,

    • Leafs rule

      Jimmy Keating I dont think I wanna read this crap ,probably bi polar Vollman anyway

  • Aaron Chan

    https://twitter.com/coreypronman

    https://twitter.com/coreypronman/status/365525801929674752

    In first period liked: Toninato (TOR), Motte (CHI), Fasching (LAK), Compher (BUF), Carrick (WSH), Butcher (COL).

  • Aaron Chan

    https://twitter.com/chrismpeters

    https://twitter.com/chrismpeters/status/365526276263522306

    USA Standouts in Period 1:
    Toninato, Compher, Motte, Fasching, DiPauli, Carrick. Good flashes:
    McCarron, Guentzel, Butcher, Stolarz

    • Waiting4LSC

      My concern is Toninato does a Schultz on us.

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Waiting4LSC Schultz was a UFA though. They haven’t signed Toninato yet that I know of but they do hold his rights for now.

        • Waiting4LSC

          Inge: Schultz was connected with the Ducks but decided to exploit his UFA situation. If Toninato is as good as I think he will be there will be a lot of pressure for him to avoid signing with the Leafs. If MLSE nuture the relationship we should be good, but there’s a ton of scumbags out there. Just hope you and PH are right.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Waiting4LSC I think if he doesn’t sign he has to re-enter the draft, but we are getting ahead of ourselves here. There’s no indication he wouldn’t sign here.

        • Burtonboy

          ingy56 Waiting4LSC Can’t be signed till he leaves the NCAA anyway

      • Pent_House

        Waiting4LSC On Behind the Draft he said he really likes the colours, so I wouldn’t be concerned lol

        • Jmessih

          plus he was really knowledgable about our team history and GM at the time.

        • GeorgeCastanza

          Pent_House Waiting4LSC  Yup. It’s close to Italian blue Azzurro.

  • Jmessih

    Anyone lese check the realiability of those last 2 tweets by seeing if they both had similar players as “stand outs” lol. Us leafs fans are so dedicated.

  • dlb eh

    Murph2417 
    i’d like to see Brennan in there.  he needs to get some respect!

    • dlb eh

      Murph2417 dlb eh 
      well i don’t like that reason

  • Jmessih

    Interesting little article/blog (It’s from HockeyBuzz) about Jason Spezza talking about the captiancy and Alferdsson’s decision to leave Ottawa. The end of the article raise points which I would love to see publically answered by either party (Daniel or the Sens).
    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Travis-Yost/El-Capitan/134/53263

    • dlb eh

      Jmessih 
      the best part about Alfie leaving is now i have a reason to like for Neil
      Alfie…heads up buddy…Clarkson’s gonna gitcha.
      I hate that worm.  class act my arse

      • Jmessih

        Exactly!!!!!!
        Another “classy” act by Alferdsson the media and fans will say.

        • Leafs rule

          Jmessih He wanted to win a cup ,yea ,no kiddin ,really ? wtf why else Travis

        • Jmessih

          It is blantaly obvious he left for money, I hope Sens fans figure it out, as well as the rest of the hockey world. Same guy who shot the puck at Scott Niedermayer, and hit Tucker from behind, and cross checks players in the back in every srum. Same “class” act.

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        dlb eh Jmessih “Can we come back? Probably not” Says it all for me. Wonder how often he thought that during those Toronto series?

        • Jmessih

          Too bad they didn’t ask him that before all those games sevens

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Jmessih We know how it turned out. I loved those shots of the Turds bench once they knew it was done.

        • Jmessih

          Really wanted to play them and the habs this year. We would have steem rolled them and the new fans would have to finally shut up!! lol

        • dlb eh

          ingy56 dlb eh Jmessih 
          it worries me with him leaving there what that team might be able to do without him now if Spaz comes back snortsnort

    • Dink

      Jmessih That guy beats the Corsi crud like he invented it …can’t read him anymore

  • Knights2Leafs

    Thanks for the Vollman’s Hockey Abstract.  Now that I know the Leafs are going to finish 28th I can save myself a ton of time and just skip till next season.  See you guys next summer!!!!

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Knights2Leafs See you at the draft preview blog!

    • AussieLeaf

      Knights2Leafs …and from what I hear its only one point ahead of 29th place Buffalo.  Any idea how Vollman arrives at his numbers to justify the Leafs at 28th overall?

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        AussieLeaf Knights2Leafs Ouija board.

        • AussieLeaf

          ingy56 AussieLeaf Knights2Leafs or maybe he borrowed the TSN monkey.  i see he is with ESPN.  Nuff said right there!

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          AussieLeaf ingy56 Knights2Leafs Yeah, good call. Either method doesn’t hold water. The fact that Charron is pumping his tires says it all for me.

  • CallumConnorKnight

    Jeff Reese Quality Goalie.
    1989-90
    GP-21  GAA- 4.41 W-9  L-6  T-1  SV%- .871 PIM-10   Assists-1