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I think it would be worth the risk to lock up Kadri for 4 mil or under for the next 4-6 years. I definately do not want to see a 1 year bridge considering the ammount of free agents we will have next year. A 2 year bridge would also be acceptable, but if he lives up to his potential we will be getting him at a steal (which is what I think Kadri has in mind when he says he will be a steal).
I'm not too optimistic aboutre-signing Franson, I'm not sure I see Liles being traded before the season begins. Furthermore, even if we sign Kadri to a 3 mil bridge deal (I don't see it going much lower than that), we don't have the 3.5-4 mil it will take to sign Franson. I can't see Franson taking a bridge deal as he just came off of one.
Obviously, getting rid of Liles to ammend the situtation would be ideal (I would like to see both signed to 4-6 years somewhere around 3.5-4), if that did not work trading Kulemin might be worth it. True we would be much thinner on the bottom 6, but I think Franson is more important to our future, and we are lacking spaces for prospects to play in. Still, this is a shitty position Nonis has gotten himself into. I know many people will say its still early, but I imagine there will be minimal movement since teams aren't willing to take on salary due to the cap.
Jays swept in double header so now their win % is as bad as last year with lots of time to do worse left.
K so on twitter I keep reading Chemmy bash Clarkson over and over again about his production not going anywhere but down because he is 29. I figure there has to be a player that is somewhat similar in age and play style. So here it is...Ryan Malone. Consistantly scoring around .7 ppg of the last 4 season....all after 29
Cox with a sort gloomy view on the Kadri contract.
He feels its unlikely that Kadri is in camp next month.
It is just Cox though
(Obviously I would like to see Franson and Kadri signing for less, and I'm sure many of you will lowball their worth, but realistically it doesn't seem likely).
@rustynail lol....they are awful looking : ( .....I wouldn't wash my car with those
@EugeneAronov a carbon copy
@ShotgunCharlie Malone? Are you trying to make us feel worse?
@ShotgunCharlie Clarkson shouldn't have a problem keeping it up here for the next 3-4 years. After that it may be a problem, but the cap may also be 85 million by then - making it irrelevant. The thing that those guys never want to mention is that Clarkson is going to be getting softer minutes in Toronto against weaker D pairings. He's also moving out of an extremely offensively anemic team, and onto one that has no trouble scoring. Those should offset any age related setbacks.
with the comments Kadri made today i see him waiting it out aswell...cocky kid needs to fire his agent..hes getting awful advice
@JMAC17 spreading the mgt message like a good little lackey.
Rusty: TBH I have no idea what the likely range is. I would think a minimum of $2.75M to $5m over a four year period would be a minimum.
@Waiting4LSC NO way I believe the current offer to Kadri in that range.
@Waiting4LSC you must buy that fancy Starbucks stuff :))
Sir, haven't researched it. But comparables go against like and discount to better. In Naz's case don't weneed to make a statement after the recent yo-yo years. If noNo can bridge at $3M-$4M for two years he has a slight saving, but then risks Naz being raided by another tea. I'd prefer to lock him up, but that's me, and my thoughts +$4 will buy a cup of coffee.
@Waiting4LSC Comparable to who? Duchene? Couture?
They took bridge deals.
cameron, as stated the cba was designed to protect teams from paying ridiculous contracts coming off players ELC.....im all for paying him what hes worth, but a player who has played only 100 gms in this league anymore than 3mil is not good mgt....let him sign a 2yr deal and if he plays well then he cashes in on his next contract. Do the leafs really know what they have in Kadri after a 48gm season? He hit a wall the last 15 gms of the season and struggled in the playoffs IMO.
@Cameron19 I don't think that any more than I think Kadri is asking for 6m. I agree 100% that Kadri probably deserves 4m based on his performance and potential. But that's irrelevant...the teams all get gouged when the player hits UFA...they have the right to hold the line on RFA's without it turning into WW 3.
Whalz: I share a number of your points, but ultimately Naz should expect to be comparably paid. Not his fault owners are enriching others to excess. We all hope for a fair share, and Naz is no different, and nor should he be. He is an important part of our future and leverage is always good. Maybe he will take a decent discount for a NMC.
@Cameron19 You know it's not just a matter of paying their good players...it's WHEN they pay them. There's a whole roster of players who had to pay their dues...Clarkson just got his money this year, at 28. This is part of the CBA...his agent knows it. I hope this is just posturing.
You don't even know what the situation is and what he's demanding, you're just assuming because you think it's outrageous that young players make lots of money. If he's asking for 4 million, that's a pretty reasonable request, considering he probably would expect that number to come down. I sincerely doubt he's asking for a 6 million dollar, multi-year deal. That's just what the media implies in order to rile up the fans: mission accomplished.
But again, he has paid his dues. Just because you don't think so doesn't make it true. He likely could have been full time in the NHL 18-24 months earlier, and he's totally within his rights to think so. I'm not saying give him whatever he wants, but I am saying that sometimes you have to commit to the guys you want to build around, and Kadri probably isn't the guy I'd pick to dick around and squabble with.
its laughable for him to say that he has played 100 gms and has pd his dues by doing whatever the coaches/gm asked of him...he should keep his mouth shut....he deserves more money than Bozak as he is a better player, but being an RFA he has no rights,,,,this is the way GMS should of handled their young players and not rush out to make them 5-6mil players coming off their ELC...you think EDM is happy with Eberle or BOS was with Seguin? over paid
@whalz It's not really laughable at all. It's true. And he's totally within his right to believe that the organization and their previous coaching staff held him back and wasted his ELC years. He has the right to think that. I don't understand why this fan base is so adverse to paying good players.
i think in all honesty he sees young players like SEGUIN, HALL, EBERLE, TAVARES sign those lucrative contracts but all of those players played more than 48gms in a season...i think the leafs will be patient with him
hey i hope its just cat and mouse, but kadri needs to earn his before he thinks hes a superstar....he had a good 1/2 season.....his comments of playing in 100 gms is laughable...he needs to shut up and sign that bridge contract being offered and prove to the leafs that he is that top player we all hope he becomes
@rustynail I think he's probably asking for 4 million on a 2-3 year deal, expecting 3.5, and the Leafs are countering in the 2.5 range. Willing to go to 3.
tsn radio and tsn website states he wants to be pd like Tavares, Landeskog, Hall, ....thinks bc he has played 100 gms hes a vet ffs,,,,,,,cocky kid needs to look in the mirror or he will be sitting out this season..not a chance NONIS signs him for 5mil