Jonathan Bernier Viewing Party

Jonathan Bernier Viewing Party

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Missing hockey? Here’s a good performance from Jonathan Bernier, wherein he turns aside 42 shots to win 3-2 over the Phoenix Coyotes on March 19. Good examples of, when on his game, how calm he is in the net and how well he handles the puck. Keeping in mind it’s just a one-game glimpse, it’s worth your while if you have some time to kill and want to get a feel for how Bernier tends the net.

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skiingallday
skiingallday

Night everyone. About to fall asleep in my chair.

hometeem
hometeem

evening ladies and gents, totally off topic.   About to sign up for satellite tv.  Does anyone know if leafs tv is included in any bundle packages or just the 5 bucks a month for any satellite provider

Optimustic
Optimustic

Nice to see the Jays improving --- they only lost  by 3 runs to the worst team in the league instead of 8 runs like yesterday.   So sad it's funny

DJGLENN22
DJGLENN22

Just sitting out on my deck listneing to the Mumford and Sons concert at the fair grounds here in Simoce there is like anywhere from 35 to 40  thousand people there............I just live like 2 blocks away and sounds like they are having a blast

darthNihilus
darthNihilus

Strange that the Franson camp has been so quiet about his contract talks while the Kadri camp has been more vocal. I know its retarded but if Kadri demands too much I can see him getting traded and Franson kept. Kadri could probably fetch a good return. 

Knights2Leafs
Knights2Leafs

Please don't take this as me saying Kadri has earned a 5 year deal at any price, but Kessel had two mediocre years followed up by his stepping out year.  Burke had the balls to see this guy was going to be elite and gave him the 5 years x $5.25M per.  Again, I'm not saying Kadri is at Kessel's level, but if the Nonis team really feel Kadri might be the elusive 1C they've been looking for, then 3 years from now a 5 year x $5M deal for Kadri might look good.

It's all a moot point because the Leaf's cap situation simply won't allow it.  If the Leafs are really offering 2 years at $3M, and I'm Kadri, I'd be saying give me $2.75M for 1 year and I'll be back looking for a big raise next year.

Dangle_My_Berries
Dangle_My_Berries

@rustynail Dion certainly looks far more relaxed, his lighter side doesn't always shine through in interviews 

djamon
djamon

@Optimustic It is so depressing watching a team trot out Wang, Redmond and Happ as 3/5ths of our starting rotation.

AA should be fired for how he's run this organization into the ground. They won't be any better next year.

hometeem
hometeem

@DJGLENN22 last night i had sweet seats for blue rodeo on my back deck, but i moved today so now im missin the 2nd day of music in the fields

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

@darthNihilus You really gotta tune out the noise, man. Listen to the media and it will sound like it won't get done right up until it gets done. Trading Kadri given our situation down the middle is craziness. You would do a long list of things to make the space before you would move Kadri.

RealTMLeafer
RealTMLeafer

@darthNihilus Or maybe the media is just speculating more about Kadri. Also, Kadri is spending the summer in town working with Leafs fitness coaches while Franson is back home in BC.

Biltmore
Biltmore

@wiski 

God I love Koma's tweets...

BTW, the video of the LA-Phoenix game is broken... I saw Bernier giving up rebounds. 

djamon
djamon

@Knights2Leafs Kessel had 3 full years under his belt before he got his big deal. Kadri barely has one. There's as huge difference in their respective bodies of work at that age.

I hate to believe the speculation of some guy on Twitter, but if Kadri seriously thinks he deserves 5m/season he can go fuck himself. Forever. It shows a real greediness and stupidity on his part which will likely never go away.

I know Kadri refuted the report, but where there's smoke there's fire.

Knights2Leafs
Knights2Leafs

@wiski

While the other teams might be keeping an eye out not to get crushed by McWilliam or Granberg, one guy they better keep an eye out for is Kevin Raine.  He loves to throw big hits. This is going to be really fun to watch.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Dangle_My_Berries @rustynail Love the smirk he gives when asked if he's aware that his contract is going to be a topic of discussion. As if to say, "yea, I know how stupid you guys are - you're going to ask five times an hour from here on out". 

Optimustic
Optimustic

@djamon @Optimustic I'm sure a lot of fans will be calling for AA's head, they can't bring him back next year.  It'll be a real shit show if they aren't done with him before the end of this season.

skiingallday
skiingallday

@djamon @Optimustic I thought he was a genius... boy was I wrong. I also place the blame on how the organization handles the pitchers and prospects. Somewhere along the line the fuck up really badly.

MaxwellHowe
MaxwellHowe

@Alec Brownscombe @darthNihilus Nonis has a lot of options available.  Sending players to the AHL, trading Liles, Gunnar, or Kulimen for picks.  He probably knows he could have the space to make a good deal with both of them, but prefers to bargain from his current position.

Knights2Leafs
Knights2Leafs

@djamon

I think you are underestimating 2 things.

Firstly, the reason he barely has one full season under his belt instead of 2 is not his fault.  As for stupidity,you might remember the brilliant let's turn him into a winger experiment. Kadri's upsurge was directly correlated to Wilson's departure. Whether you or anyone else think he was fairly treated during the Wilson tenure is irrelevant. Kadri's perception is he was not.  It not only cost him a lost opportunity to prove himself at the NHL level but real dollars. 

Secondly, the extent to which these players rely on their agents.  While Tyler Seguin has also played more games than Kadri, his PPG are no higher and no doubt his agents are telling him that if Boston was prepared to pay Seguin 6 years x $5.75M for being the 3rd best centre on his team, then Kadri who is likely the Leafs' best centre should be worth a lot more than $3M per year. Then add in teams like Edmonton that hand out money like candy at Halloween.

I personally don't think he's earned a Hall, Eberle or Seguin contract yet, but this idea that let's just trade his ass out of town because he might be asking for too much (like most players do) is just ridiculous.  The first real shot we've had at a true 1C since Sundin left and let's just stamp our feet, throw a tantrum and blow the guy away. Great...do we have some more potential 1Cs down on the farm?


Burtonboy
Burtonboy

I was going to ask you about that guy K2L . Whats your take on him ?

Optimustic
Optimustic

@Leafbites @Optimustic @skiingallday Maybe that's why he's still in hanging out with Stastny or whoever he was in the picture that was posted with. 

 I like Liles, but something has to give with our D, and I'm sure he wants to play meaningful minutes somewhere.

Leafbites
Leafbites

@Optimustic @skiingallday Interesting, the author lays out a depth chart with 5 D pairings and no Liles. Not that I think the vet's stock has bottomed out to this extent, but something has to be brewing on this front...John Michael, himself, has to see the writing on the wall. 

Optimustic
Optimustic

@skiingallday @Optimustic I haven't seen a lot of Brennan but he has as good a chance to be the 7th Dman as anyone not in the top 6.  If he does move up, I wonder who he pushes out?   Fraser or Ranger would be the obvious choice.  Maybe if Fraser hasn't recovered from the head shot, or it could be that Ranger isn't able to get back to where he left off in Tampa.

djamon
djamon

@Optimustic It's organizational, IMO. I think the Farrell interview from the other day was very telling...talking about the differences between the Red Sox and the Jays organizationally. 

The Jays just aren't developing major league players anymore...at any position. Why? 

You see players completely incapable of executing simple fundamental plays. Why?

Pitchers can't stay healthy. Why?


Optimustic
Optimustic

@skiingallday @Optimustic @djamon Being in Canada, I'm a very casual baseball fan.  I watch it when the Jays are winning but don't have much interest when they aren't. 

I bought into the hype at the big deals in the off season but it didn't last long.   Most of my freinds who follow baseball feel it's AA's inability to motivate the players.   If it were the Leafs they'd be saying that they're pro's and shouldn't need to be motivated.

  I see fault in both players and management.   The players are making a lot of mistakes, but the manager has made enough bad calls too.  I'd look for a new manager and see if he can get better results next season.  If not, it's time to blow it up and start over.

djamon
djamon

@Optimustic Yup. It's one thing for the Major League team to suck...we've had some terrible injuries. But the entire organization is in terrible shape. Poor drafting and development are killing this team. Who have we developed on this team? Or even in the rest of the league?

He took a shot...it didn't work out. Time to start new with another guy.

skiingallday
skiingallday

@Optimustic @djamon If we weren't expecting much then yea, he might still have his job.... but we were fucking world series favorites.... and yet we're now the model joke franchise... People didn't expect shit from Houston, so it's ok, but the Jays were supposed to be great so having them go this far off the deep end is painful and embarrassing for the city, the players and Canada.

I'm currently in North Eastern USA and they love to talk about baseball, and as soon as they find out I'm canadian... well shit, the Jays are just the most embarrassing thing to talk about. The Leafs on the other hand, well they acknowledge how close they were to winning and how good they were being the only eastern team to even pose a threat and the Bruins fans actually respect the Leafs (although i don't respect the Bruins at all) but they just laugh at the jays. 


I know this is a ridiculous rant, but the fact is that the Jays are breeding a culture of losing, and that it's acceptable. For gods sake, if the Leafs were like this.... well we already know what happens. I doubt we see the same repercussions that happened when the Leafs hit rock bottom.

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

@MaxwellHowe @Alec Brownscombe @darthNihilus Certainly hope it's not Gunnar or Kulemin for picks. But Nonis probably has a laundry list of options at his disposal if it comes down to it.

For all we know, he could have a scenario available to him where he deals Liles and retains salary, but he wants to see how everything plays out with the unsigned RFAs and how  competition shakes out at training camp with Rielly and others. 

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

@Knights2Leafs @djamon Why are we just believing these reports to be true? Even those saying "it's probably not true" are still letting it influence the way they're viewing Kadri in this negotiation, for some reason.

djamon
djamon

@Knights2Leafs Kadri hasn't played as many games as those players you mentioned for one simple and irrefutable reason...he wasn't good enough to make the team. Doesn't matter why...he just wasn't. He played well in Junior and the AHL, but he never dominated. This isn't a case of the organization holding back a player for their own reasons. He wasn't a centre because he wasn't good enough at the NHL level to be one. He's barely good enough NOW.

We knew he had the talent to get there...but we had to be patient while he learned some tough lessons. In a small sample size he looks like he's made the leap and is ready to be a nice NHL player.

Ask the Bruins what they feel about giving Seguin a big deal now.

Knights2Leafs
Knights2Leafs

@Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

Sorry - I was responding to dlb's earlier comment:

worst case scenario for the fans, is too much get said (even if it's utter shit) that Kadri ends up having to move somewhere else to resume his career.

The cap situation leaves no choice but for a bridge deal. But if he scores 70+ points next year, is it unreasonable for him to start looking for Hall and Eberle money?

Knights2Leafs
Knights2Leafs

@Burtonboy 

Sorry, was just eating dinner.

Raine was a bit of a fan favorite because he always played full out and played bigger than he was.  Kind of like Brian Marchment but not nearly as dirty.  The other difference was Marchment clearly had pro talent and I'd say Kevin will be likely to make it even in A. But he is fun to watch.