Updates in the Kadri and Franson Watch

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Update:  More reports of exorbitant long term contract demands from Kadri have been denied by Nazem himself on Twitter. Just as David Alter did, Bob McKenzie stuck by his source and replied by asking Naz to clear the air with some specifics on his contract demands.

Some will say the whole thing could have been avoided and that with better cap management Kadri would be under contract by now; others will read the reports far too literally and decry Kadri’s ludicrous demands as indicative of  a need for an attitude adjustment. I’ll just say it would be an odd and seemingly self-destructive move for Kadri to deny these reports if the terms reported are indeed the ones he is asking for and expecting to receive. While McKenzie is the king of hockey insiders, it wouldn’t be the first time he or Dreger have reported asinine contract demands only for us to find out that what a player may have initially asked for and what he ends up getting are often two very different things. I would hope negotiations have progressed past the point where the Leafs are offering a bridge contract worth approx. $3 mill  per while Kadri’s camp awaits an offer worth $5.5 million per over 6  years.

Here is McKenzie’s take on how it will all play out.

All signs still  point to a bridge contract worth between $3 and 3.5 million. It’s just a question of when and if it will involve any missed time from the Leafs’ most valuable center.  As much as I could point to certain moves I’ve  seen as wasteful, we kind of have to give Nonis these next two weeks. What’s the benefit of signing a deal today rather than the 15th if it means putting the Leafs in a worse cap situation moving forward?

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Original post:

Leafs players and management have been meeting with the media today at the Leafs Charity Golf Classic (a stream is available here).

First and foremost, there were a few small updates provided in the Cody Franson and Nazem Kadri contract situations.

It seems, based on some of the tweets today, that Franson is open to signing a one-year contract. That strikes one as odd given a two-year bridge takes Franson to unrestricted free agency. It’s possible Franson’s main priority is hitting the ground running in camp and starting off on the right foot, with an eye toward a longer term deal next off season. He would be an RFA again next summer, but he would get to revisit his contract again right away having had the 82-game season to build up his body of work headed into his next negotiation.

This could help the Leafs make the cap work for this season – I could see Franson signing a one year deal in the high 2s – but the club should be weary of adding more expiring contracts to the pile for next off season. It sounds like the Leafs could be adding Franson to the list alongside the others – Phaneuf, Kessel, Kulemin, Reimer, Gardiner and potentially Bolland – in need of contracts in the 2014 off-season. Locking down Kadri for two seasons at a reasonable figure seems imperative. On that note, the vibe feels considerably less optimistic with Kadri at the moment when it comes to getting a deal done before training camp. Dave Poulin told the reporters the following:

 

The line out of Kadri’s camp, meanwhile:

Sounds like there is a bit of a stand off between the two sides at the moment. The stuff about Kadri asking for something in the neighbourhood of $5.5 million per over 6 years, which Nazem seemingly denied on Twitter when David Alter first reported it, just won’t go away either:

 

Cap issues aside, it goes without saying that this is not a type of deal the Leafs should be considering at this stage of the game with Kadri.

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In other news, Jonathan Bernier has reportedly stolen Randy Carlyle’s parking space at the MCC. I get that Bernier is gunning for Reimer’s job and is embracing the whole “I’m a new man who takes what he wants” attitude, but this is kind of a dick move, new guy. He also took Nonis’ spot and seems proud of it.

 

Chris Johnston and David Alter are both reporting from the course today if you’re looking to follow along for more updates.

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Check out the interviews from today’s Legends Charity Golf Classic at RattleSnake Point:

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  • leafsince93

    i really hope that Franson gets signed soon..as for Kadri, love the way he plays but if he is asking for Tavares money than he can sit..i think any where between 3-3.5 for 2 yrs would be fair for him.

  • Burtonboy

    Tough sledding for NYR/RFA Derek Stepan. Player seeks McDonagh $ (6 x $4.7M) but no arb rights, NYR holding firm on Subban level bridge deal

  • Alec Brownscombe

    Burtonboy WE ARE THE ONLY TEAM WITH RFAs

  • Alec Brownscombe

    But seriously, a bit worried about Kadri right now.

  • MaxwellHowe

    The salary cap has been and always will be a major thorn in the side of the Toronto Maple Leafs.  I hate Gary Bettman.   That is all.

  • Burtonboy

    Alec Brownscombe If hes expecting  a deal like Tavares either he or his agent are out to lunch. Time to wake up here sport

  • rustynail

    Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe Big if and Tavares is the deal of the NHL

  • Burtonboy

    rustynail Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe No doubt . I kinda expect Kadri or his agent will be yakking again real soon . He already denied this stuff once

  • leafscapguru

    I think that leafs haven’t signed Franson only because of Kadri right now, The way I see it if the leafs sign Franson it opens a hole for another team to offer sheet Kadri and steal him, where if the leafs sign Kadri first every team believes and the fans it would take a minimum of a 4 or 5 year deal at no less than 4.5mil for Franson to leave. The way it sounds looks like Franson is considering the cap not Kadri as he said it might be a one year deal (so he knows it will be cheaper.)

  • Mind Bomb

    Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe With all due respect BB, Tavares signed his contract prior. This its Gabriel Landenskog money Adam Henrique Money, Just saying I understand Kadri wanting to get paid is all

  • Burtonboy

    Mind Bomb Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe There’s a big difference in asking for 5.5 in negotiation and expecting it. Ask for 6 mil and expect to get 3 is normally the way it goes

  • ProfessorRance

    Glad to hear Franson is close to joining the fold! Love his play last year.

  • mcloki

    Alec Brownscombe Not yet. Next week maybe. The agent probably knows that the gig is up. but he’s putting up a brave front for the next negotiation. Essentially saving face.

  • mcloki

    MaxwellHowe I just like the fact that we can all go back to hating on Gary Bettman again. 😉

  • Burtonboy

    Kadri feels he has been unfairly portrayed by some regarding his situation.

  • Alec Brownscombe

    Burtonboy
    After talking to both Franson and Kadri today, my hunch is that the D-man is the one who is in camp on opening day.

  • leafscapguru

    Burtonboy this is Toronto fans can turn in a heartbeat, easiest way to prove us wrong is to sign that bridge deal for 2.5 (hint hint)

  • Burtonboy

    leafscapguru Burtonboy Give me one good reason he should take less then Bernier

  • leafscapguru

    Burtonboy leafscapguru ok 2.9

  • Alec Brownscombe

    leafscapguru Burtonboy 2 x 3.5 for Kadri.
    1 x 2.8 for Franson.

  • Burtonboy

    Alec Brownscombe leafscapguru Burtonboy I says give them both 3.0

  • leafscapguru

    Alec Brownscombe leafscapguru Burtonboy  3mil each sounds fair to both parties to me

  • Burtonboy

    Twitter can get vicious lol
    Ridiculous. Kadri isn’t worth 1 million. To even mention his name in the same sentence as Tavares is ludicrous.

  • leafscapguru

    Alec Brownscombe leafscapguru Burtonboy I just want them cheaper so we have room to trade and call ups but I know wishful thinking

  • Burtonboy

    Sabres need to sign Hodgson for whatever he wants, and offer sheet Kadri. 2 good centers.

  • leafscapguru

    -Keon- my wife locked me into a long term deal based on potential, but man I wish I could do a bridge deal now

  • leafscapguru

    -Keon- leafscapguru LMAO

  • Dangle_My_Berries

    leafscapguru -Keon- you boys thinking of walking away form your contracts like Lou

  • Savo43

    Im not normally one to shit on Nonis because i actually like a lot of the things hes done, but for fuck sakes u piece of shit, trade out Liles, retain cap, if you have to, trade one of Gunnarsson or Kulemin so that you can tie Kadri and Franson down. These guys are our fucking future quit dicking around asshole. That is all =).

  • leafscapguru

    Dangle_My_Berries leafscapguru -Keon- unfortunately I don’t have any other offers so I guess I have to stay

  • leafscapguru

    -Keon- leafscapguru Dangle_My_Berries my wife has told me im still a RFA so I have no righttttts

  • leafscapguru

    Savo43 Im sure Nonis has tried to trade someone by now but nobody in the NHL right is doing trades, Leafs are the only team pressed up against the cap.

  • Dangle_My_Berries

    -Keon- leafscapguru Dangle_My_Berries maybe if you boys stop showing up to camp out of shape you might score some more…..trololol : p

  • Burtonboy

    -Keon- Burtonboy leafscapguru I don’t agree at all . I understand he’s on a 3rd contract but he’s still only played 64 games in the NHL. Kadri was a key part of our team that made the playoffs for the 1st time in 9 yrs but yet fans have turned on him in a vicious manner because he’s trying to negotiate a contract. Why isn’t Naz comparable to Henrique who got 4 million per season? I think its fuckin ridiculous. That said I do agree Naz should and likely will sign a bridge contract but why can’t he try to get the best deal he can without getting castrated

  • Spayde_D

    Burtonboy -Keon- leafscapguru I’d give Naz 4 no problem… If he signs for 6 years. Not one year less. If Henrique was going for 2 years he would be looking at 2.5-3 as well.

  • leafscapguru

    Burtonboy -Keon- leafscapguru Because we as fans don’t make millions of dollars and complain when a millionaire is fighting over a million dollars more for one season when before they couldn’t even crack the line up till last year.

  • leafscapguru

    Spayde_D Burtonboy -Keon- leafscapguru 4 for 6 yrs would end up to be a bargin eventually, I would do that deal

  • Alec Brownscombe

    Just got around to replying to each of you individually in the last thread. Thanks everybody.

  • Mind Bomb

    Alec Brownscombe  Does that mean I am getting A Raise, Cause I want Kadri money :)

  • Loric76

    Mind Bomb Alec Brownscombe just don’t park in Alec’s spot

  • Mind Bomb

    Loric76 Mind Bomb Alec Brownscombe Touche !!

  • leafscapguru

    -Keon- Burtonboy leafscapguru I think thats where the leafs are as well

  • leafscapguru

    -Keon- Dangle_My_Berries leafscapguru I’m thinking of pulling a Tim Thomas and sitting this season out

  • Burtonboy

    -Keon- Burtonboy leafscapguru Not necessarily you Keon and there are very few on this site that feel that way about Naz but its becoming a complete shit show elsewhere. Its kind of stuff that Murphy couldn’t put up with and was basically run out of town and it won’t take much more for this kid to want the fuck out of Toronto in a big hurry. . Its far worse then anything that was ever said about Kessel.

  • leafscapguru

    -Keon- leafscapguru Dangle_My_Berries Ha the dog has nicer things than me so that will be great!

  • KulieFTW

    leafscapguru Savo43 I’m pretty sure no one was predicting a 10 percent fall in the cap, he’s have to trade assets and take back salary to get rid of Liles, it’s a no win situation unless they’re both signed for under 6 million.

  • leafscapguru

    Burtonboy -Keon- leafscapguru I hope your wrong BB I hope Kadri knows that all leafs fans want him on this team but we also want a team that wins that’s why we make comments we don’t want to lose any player of value but in the end its Naz that we want

  • Alec Brownscombe

    TheCanucksnaphook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy-xqydT2m8

  • Burtonboy

    leafscapguru Burtonboy -Keon- This site is different and very knowledgeable  . Not so elsewhere . I’m not sure what a poll of Leafs nation would revel about Naz right now but it probably wouldn’t be very complimentary  . He’s getting absolutely hammered on twitter right now and its dammed nasty

  • leafscapguru

    Burtonboy leafscapguru -Keon- ya there’s a point where you have to take a seat back and keep your comments to yourself I agree. I cant blame the guy trying to get the most he can, we all do it in our own life with our jobs. Just hope he is realistic in his demands that’s all