Offer sheet speculation on Franson

Offer sheet speculation on Franson

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Cody Franson

Darren Dreger is reporting murmurs of offer sheet speculation on Cody Franson (for more details about the current holdout, see this earlier article).

Here is the relevant list of offer sheet compensation:

Offer
Compensation
 
 
 
$1,110,249No Compensation
$1,110,249 to $1,682,194 3rd round pick
1,682,194 to $3,364,391 2nd round pick
$3,364,391 to $5,046,585 1st round pick, 3rd round pick

It goes without saying the Leafs should definitely match anything below the $3,364,391 threshold. If a team submits something just below that threshold the Leafs would have to bury a contract or something, because losing Franson for a 2nd round pick is terrible value.

Anthony Petrielli has put together a list of teams with $3.3 million or more in cap space.

Carolina might be one to look out for. They recently lost Joni Pitkanen for the season to a heel injury and are looking rail thin on defence. Carolina might be clever to throw something just below the $3,364,391 mark at Franson and apply the heat on the Leafs. Hopefully that doesn’t happen.

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137 comments
.Kong.
.Kong.

Let's get Franny signed for $3M/per and kick some ass!

.Kong.
.Kong.

Alright...  First post in since the Leafs got bounced.  I'm officially starting to get excited for this season

Radar O'Rielly
Radar O'Rielly

Its been a long summer, bring on the Leafs and of course, 2 feet of snow.

peterbleafs
peterbleafs

Franson has no choice but to sign with Leafs for the 2 year deal.  Its not so bad, making $3million a year for 2 years.  He will not get offer sheeted to over $3.3, he will not get traded and then enter into any kind of a better deal and sitting out does not improve his negotiating position.  I am so not going to do any work today.

Burtonboy
Burtonboy

Dammm its nice to see the board going crazy again ........ Hockey's back yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Dink
Dink

this is a fun topic, lol

Jordan29
Jordan29

Really can't see anyone other then Carolina or the Islanders offer sheeting him. With the amount of cheap UFAS still out there willing to take a one year deal it wouldn't make Sense to sign a guy and lose the 1st and 3rd round picks

LeafsGuru
LeafsGuru

Personally after Kadri's signing the other night, I thought Franson would have been locked up by now, so that tells me that I know nothing that goes on in Nonis' head

Dink
Dink

Watched a Bruin show last night, they have a core, but a lot of questions too...

Cameron19
Cameron19

Yep, most of those teams wouldn't hand out offer sheets.

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I doubt Phoenix would risk exposing their own players to offer sheets by getting involved like that.
Lou Lamiorello probably is similarly minded about them as Burke was.
We know that Poille has a thing or two to say about the use of offer sheets.
Carolina might, but it seems like a trade could be worked out there and would make more sense.
Buffalo might, just to spite us - and they could easily go to the upper limit of that bracket (2 years 10 million is still just a 1st and a 3rd)
St.Louis doesn't actually have the space, as they still have Pietrangelo to sign. 
Colorado is already spending more than they've spent in a long time, so probably not.
We know Ottawa is operating with a budget and would have to break it to screw with us.
Calgary and the Islanders are possibilities, but I doubt Franson would sign with Calgary unless it was a long term deal. 


Uncle Otis
Uncle Otis

Seems like der's a shawwk in da water!

Cough#Burkie#Cough

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

Morning Guys.....looking forward to hearing some reports from the MCC today.  I fail to see how this is all Nonis' fault....Franson and his agent have to take partial blame here and quite frankly....he ain't no Pronger.  Some people have short memories as Franson wasn't very good at the beginning of last season.....granted he improved as the season went on but he wasn't a top 4 Dman all season long.  I still want to see him play a full season, consistently in the top 4.....still has something to prove in my eyes.  I like him and think he made strides as the season progressed but he isn't as good or proven as some are making him out to be.....just my opinion and thank Christ we'll have something else to talk about today......anxiously awaiting Phook's MCC updates.  :)

Dan39
Dan39

@Burtonboy I don't know about you guys but seeing that rookie tournament really got me going. I love that wide-open aggressive hockey that you get below the NHL-level. 

And a lot of toughness from our Burke-era picks. Devane argued successfully for another chance in my eyes - I had written him off prematurely after a disappointing last season - and Biggs eventually a stepped up against the Penguins while Broll looked solid. 

Dan39
Dan39

@Jordan29 Yeah, but don't you think Nonis would just trade Franson to those teams for the picks or some other equivalent package if that's how highly they valued Franson? 

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

@LeafsGuru You're not the only one......truly believed that he'd be signed before Camp.

MaxwellHowe
MaxwellHowe

@Cameron19 I don't think Calgray or the Islanders would be prepared to hand over the picks involved.  Thats the thing - most of the teams on the list are rebuilding and unlikely to surrender 1st round draft picks.  And there would be no point of offer sheeting him for less than 3.2 million.

Dink
Dink

@wendelsway1  It is not Nonis fault by any means, Nonis is trying to do the best of a bad situation

Dink
Dink

@Cameron19 Boston has 4 returning D and 3 Rookie D...The lines have all been reassembled..Iginla looks to play with Krecic (sp) and Lucic not sure where Ericson plays

A little concern over Chara getting tired and he will be in Olympics too

Kelly is returning from injury, Marchant lost his buddy (Seguin)

Just stuff,  every team has issues

Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

@Dink @wendelsway1 This aint little league, Nonis does not get a Ribbon for Trying hard, and doing his Best :)


Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

@-Keon-  Its Funny though Keon, Ranger seems to be the second coming of Bobby orr around here, he hasn't played top 4 minutes in the NHL in 4 years, Granberg is no where close to Ready.

How come on this Board they get all kinds of Love, and the Guy who actually does it, just had a lucky half season


wendelsway1
wendelsway1

@-Keon- Can't remember who it/they were that responded to a post of mind yesterday that it's not a hockey decision but a business decision that won't shouldn't be taken personally by the team if Franson decides to sit rather than sign and attend camp......in that vein I say....it shouldn't be taken personally if Nonis doesn't cave to Franson's demands.....it just business...right?.

Dan39
Dan39

@Mind Bomb @Dan39 @peterbleafs PK is still an RFA at the end of this current deal, right? He has one more year of RFA status? I think you're probably right, though, or at least hope you're right! What's bad for the Habs is good for us. 

I think PK really wants to be in Toronto. I see him out and about all the time during the summer. Apparently he just left for Montreal last week, ie, waited to the last minute. 

Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

@Dan39 @Mind Bomb @peterbleafs Morning Dan, I am one who thinks Subban got Screwed, and MTL is going to pay Huge this year to keep him, they will pay a price for that :)


LightmyLeaf
LightmyLeaf

@dlb eh they lost Ference too, not chop liver there. 

PK the Giant Slayer will topple Chara like KK off the empire state building! ...its a dream I have,....


Beantown breakdown I say......:)

colino17
colino17

@dlb eh Iggy for Jagr is probably a wash...Ericson is better than Seguin (right now) but they did lose some valuable depth in that trade...Chara is starting to show a few chinks in the armour...Horton is a big loss...and an aging core

I still think they make the playoffs but their cup window is closing. A few injuries to key players could flush their season quite quickly.

Dink
Dink

@Dan39 @Cameron19 I said before, they might not make playoffs (I hope)

Losing Horton was a big shock to them

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

@Mind Bomb I lost Grabo and Frattin....loved 'em both as Leafs but, as they are no longer.......Go Boland/Clarkson Go!!

Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

@wendelsway1 @Mind Bomb @Cameron19 @-Keon- Exactly WW, and remember back to my posts in the Past, I was hoping for a Defensive Upgrade going into this offseason, So far its looks the same or a worse with out Franson. And I lost Grabo :) 

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Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

@wendelsway1 @Mind Bomb @Cameron19 @-Keon-  Ya WW, right back at you, And I am certainly not putting him in the Prongersphere, A healthy Pronger is 7 mil a season however, I am not de-valuing Cody's play just to justify nonis's cap issue's 

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wendelsway1
wendelsway1

@Mind Bomb @-Keon- I can only speak for myself in saying, I don't know what Ranger is capable of but after listening to his interview yesterday, the guys got heart, has been through some shitty times and sounds determined to make a comeback....remains to be seen whether he can or not, but I'm cheering for this guy just as I'm cheering for Franson.  Just because I'd like to see him play a full season consistently in the top 4 before he gets big money doesn't mean I'm being disrespectful or shitting on him, just means I don't think he's as proven as some make him out to be.

Marlies Man
Marlies Man

@Dan39 @Mind Bomb @-Keon- Blame the NHL and the salary cap. This wouldn't be an issue for us otherwise. We got fucked by the first lockout and could get fucked again by the most recent.

Dan39
Dan39

@Mind Bomb @-Keon- Ranger is a top four guy in my mind and I've been singing his praises because I've saw him play a lot last year and he was clearly a cut above, but unlike Kostka and Gardiner, he was a cut above with a solid game that would translate well.  

I don't think a lot of guys got on the bandwagon until that Ullman article came out with the extensive stat analysis that has so much sway on the blogs now. I think consensus on Ranger now is probably more like he's going to be a solid 4-6 guy rather than a top 2-4 guy, but the trend is up! 

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

@Mind Bomb @Cameron19 @-Keon- You and I agree on most things MB, and I certainly respect your opinions, so I respectfully say....I am shocked that some are mentioning Franson and Pronger in the same sentence....just my opinion :)

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

@Cameron19 @wendelsway1 @-Keon- It works both ways, Cameron.  I've said many times that we are not privy to what goes on behind closed doors, are not mind readers and IMO, don't have the info needed to start playing the blame game for either side.  

Cameron19
Cameron19

@wendelsway1 @-Keon- But it doesn't work that way for most. The player is wrong to conduct his own business and "not the type of player we want", but the management is always right to play the "it's a business" card. Good deal of hypocrisy there.