Tyler Biggs looked like a non-factor in his preseason game, but Jesse Blacker was pretty good in the preseason opener and I’m a little surprised he isn’t going to get another game. Among those on the outside looking in and vying for a spot on the blue line, Korbinian Holzer, Andrew MacWilliam and TJ Brennan remain with the team. Stuart Percy has not yet appeared in a preseason game but also remains on the training camp roster for the time being. He received plaudits from fans and management alike for being one of the best defencemen in the rookie tournament.
14 players have been reassigned to the Marlies or their respective junior teams today.
One of the more interesting names among them is defenceman Petter Granberg, who I thought struggled in the rookie tournament and didn’t get much better in his preseason appearances. He was hoping to stick around deeper into preseason than he has, but the need for an adjustment period in his overseas transition became immediately obvious. More than anything, he seemed unsure of himself out there; a little behind the pace and often off the mark with his first pass (which came advertised as a strength). This shouldn’t be anything to be alarmed about with a 21-year-old defenceman getting his first taste of pro hockey in North America, but there was some hype about Granberg coming right in and grabbing a spot on the team this training camp.
Jerry D’Amigo was hoping to stick around longer, as well, and is perhaps the most disappointing among the cuts. He didn’t make much of an impact last night, and I think Mason Raymond, Carter Ashton and Trevor Smith all showed more among the bubble forwards. This appears to have been the case in the training camp sessions as well. I don’t think fans were unreasonable to expect a little more from D’Amigo in camp given his age and development time logged with the Marlies. Based on reviews out of camp, Ashton seemed to make the bigger impact since day 1.
Among the others returning to the Marlies, I thought Josh Leivo and Brad Ross both had solid camps with positives to take forward.
The Leafs are also extending the stay of the unsigned Zachary Yuen, the 20-year-old defenceman and former 2nd round pick of the Winnipeg Jets, by sending him to the Marlies camp. He turned some heads in rookie camp and appears to be receiving consideration for a Marlies contract for the upcoming season.
All told, here are the 14 cuts:
Forwards Sam Carrick, Andrew Crescenzi, Jerry D’Amigo, Josh Leivo, Greg McKegg and Brad Ross, defencemen Petter Granberg, Dylan Yeo and Zachary Yuen, and goaltenders Christopher Gibson and Garret Sparks have all been assigned to the Toronto Marlies of the American Hockey League.
Forwards Frederik Gauthier (Rimouski – QMJHL) and Ryan Rupert (London – OHL), as well as defenceman Kevin Raine (Sudbury – OHL) have been reassigned to their respective junior clubs.
The Leafs have kept some of their big-bodied forwards around to play on their 4th line in the next few preseason games, with Tyler Biggs, Troy Bodie, Jamie Devane and David Broll all remaining on the training camp roster for the time being. I don’t think this should be taken as a sign that all of these players have outshone a player like D’Amigo in the eyes of Leafs brass necessarily (though I think Broll has been good). It’s probably more to do with the fact that there are three preseason games in four days this weekend, there are always fights, and Carlyle wants a big, pugilistic 4th line available to him each night. Frazer McLaren is hurt and Colton Orr won’t make many appearances. Speaking of which, McLaren’s broken finger may open the door for an additional bubble forward to start the regular season.
Maple Leafs Training Camp Roster 2013Latest Cuts: Stuart Percy, Andrew MacWilliam reassigned to Marlies.
|* Indicates rookie tournament attendee|
|34||James Reimer||G||45||Jonathan Bernier||G|
|3||Dion Phaneuf||D||12||Mason Raymond||F|
|11||Jay McClement||F||21||James van Riemsdyk||F|
|15||Paul Ranger||D||22||Joe Colborne||F|
|26||John-Michael Liles||D||23||Trevor Smith||F|
|38||Frazer McLaren||F||36||Carl Gunnarsson||D|
|41||Nikolai Kulemin||F||51||Jake Gardiner||D|
|43||Nazem Kadri||F||55||Korbinian Holzer||D|
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Hey guys! Anyone tell me when the next pre-season Leafs game is on and who its against? I thought i heard thursday vs. ottawa?
@LeafsForLife correct, at 7
james reimers new lid -http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1336977
@Dangle_My_Berries Sweet, get a chance to see it up close. I like the vitruvian Optimus Prime on the side and the skyline. Nice touches.
@Dangle_My_Berries I think the trucks are from the family house moving business
Need to vent frustration again... my favorite site on the net, but its awful on mobile
thank you...go leafs go!
No Android...firefox and chrome
following conversation is impossible as it doesnt refresh well and the comments get grouped. Was much easier when the new comments popped up at the top.
I'd pay for an app ;) just sayin!
@Alec Brownscombe did we donate enough to sponsor that tyke team yet?
@mcloki what is los7?
@rustynail I prefer the Arthur Fonzarelli method.
anyone follow 'hockey rumours & trades' on facebook? rhe say leafs and franson agree on $3million a year but Franson wants 1 year and leafs want 2... leafs woukd do 1 year at $2million...
@happy_gilmour makes sense.
@happy_gilmour Dregger was saying the same today on the radio
@Loric76 embarrassing eh
@wiski Just to stir up some shit......30 goals this year, you heard it here first last week. You may pile one in 3,2,1, GO!
@wiski so the Avs could trade ROR before the deadline :)
14 according to DB.
he must be shit and played against weak teams, and was lucky to play infront of a strong defensive corps...lol
@-Keon- he only played 10 games last season?
@wiski Sure, as long as the Ferrari dealership did the same.
This is what happens to you when you run our goalie when MacWilliam is on the ice.
@Komas Taberle Love it
@wiski @MaxwellHowe @Komas Taberle Seriously though, I see why Carlyle is keeping the enforcers at Leafs camp. Goalie getting run there, Kessel being f!cked with against the Flyers. A few fights is one thing, but that type of dirt at an exhibition game is unacceptable. The Sens and the Flyers and everyone else need to be put on notice from the get go.
@lukethenuke Doorman would possibly have one.
Thoughts on the Novel..... I mean post about the leafs D at PPP.
Im sure you could find some fancy stats to debunk some of it but the numbers are there.
Definitely on the most optimistic side of things.
I'm sold :)
Troll is a bit much.
And I wasn't.
I'd make that trade to get Naz In the 1C and have Grabo as 2C.
3rd line Center (at best) and a prospect for a bonified 2way 2C with heart and grit...
@TheCanucksnaphook slim pickings tonight boss
@TheCanucksnaphook its a funny show. xmen first class is about to start
First mock draft of the year:
J.V.R. - Toews - Giroux
Drouin - Getzlaf - Eriksson
J.Staal - Bergeron - Doan
O.E.L. - Pietrangelo
Bieksa - Bogosian
Luongo - Reimer - Bernier
@Cameron19 thats your fantasy roster?
Lol..u hated the bernier deal, and you end up drafting him? Solid lineup but you need a Leaf on the Blueline
@Black_Hawk @Cameron19Yep. It's a good idea to do a couple mock drafts before your real drafts. Gives you an idea of where most guys should go, and who might have slipped much further than you would expect.
Having said that, the guys at MLHS are usually much smarter drafters than the randoms you get at your standard mock draft. It's unlikely I would walk away from an MLHS draft with a roster that stacked.
@Bon Scott was a Leaf fan @Cameron19 There were definitely those against it altogether, but people here tend to jump to conclusions. Alec only said he thought the assets could have been spent better elsewhere. I only said that I dislike the way the FANS assume this means terrible things for Reimer, and started immediately bashing him in order to justify the crowning of Bernier - before he plays a single game. The hypocrisy, to me, is mind boggling.
And to bring it back to the comment by whalz, this doesn't mean that I don't think Bernier is good, or could be better than Reimer. I've never said that. I just think it would be nice to see it happen before making assumptions.
@Loric76 @Cameron19 @Bon Scott was a Leaf fan It really depends how you view Frattin. If you believe the history revisionists who now say Frattin is a 7 goal scorer who will never play in the top six, than we gave up next to nothing for Bernier - a 4th line forward and a 2nd round pick to upgrade Scrivens.
If you believe Frattin is a 25 goal scorer, than yea, we jumped in with both feet. And if what you say is true, and we keep moving forward without need of evidence being built up, well, that doesn't make it right.
@Bon Scott was a Leaf fan @Cameron19 @Loric76 I think what has actually happened is more important than what people say. What we've read so far is scouts that rated him highly years ago anxious to be proven right, and our management patting themselves on the back for making a good move. If Bernier was as sure-fire as many here believe, than you can bet that the Islanders and Flyers and Devils - teams that actually needed a goalie - would have stepped up and crushed that offer. what we've actually seen on the ice is Bernier playing relief minutes against weak teams, with a very strong defense in front of him. That's just a fact. It doesn't limit his potential in my mind, I'm just assessing him based on what he's done, rather than hearsay and 'what if' scenarios.
I know you aren't bashing Reimer, but many are - suddenly critical of all these elements of goaltending and throwing out the buzz words of the day.
As for the behind the scenes stuff - I think that is the invention of the fan base. The story will play itself out on the ice, not in a board room. If it doesn't, than we have big problems.
could of sworn you were not happy with the package we gave up to get Bernier...you thought Nonis should of spent those assets upgrading the centre or dman position.
you also were not happy as you thought reimer was good enough.....i could be wrong or misread your posts, but i do also recall you saying he in a huge question mark....
i loved the trade, and i hope others who didnt like the trade will be happy when Bernier-reimer tandem gives us the edge over those teams who have to depend on 1 goalie....looking forward to seeing how the goalie situation shakes out.
Not sure where my comment above went.
But anyway, I think we should have run with Reimer and Scrivens this year...had Frattin in our top nine...kept our second rounder...and had the salary flexibility to sign Franson...and maybe sign someone else.
That is my thoughts...I put them out there for what its worth...nothing : |
let me ask you this, who netted the better return NJ or LA?
NJ gets schneider for Horvat (unknown prospect who may not be ready this yr and may never be a top line forward)
LA gets fratts (as many have said 20+ goal scorer), scrivens a decent backup, and a 2nd rd pick?
two goalies who with high upside, and at one point schneider was considered a better goalie than Lou.
Schneider is more proven than Bernier.
Horvat is an outstanding prospect. Could be a 1 or 2 C.
Frattin will score between 20 and 30 goals and the key is he will be able to contribute in the playoffs with his strength, speed and hands. We also gave up cap space...we have a number one goalie IMO...we also gave up other assets that could be valuable.
I'm confused. How are you comparing these deals? Do you mean who netted (no pun intended) the better return - Vancouver or LA?
if NONIS didnt resign ORR and Mcclaren then that would of given us extra cap space aswell as that ridiculous contract of Bozak...he should of offered him 3.5 mil.. lots of questionable contracts by NONIS but im sure he will get this franson deal done before next wk.
opps...yeah sorry trying to get the kids down and spend some time on here.......
i was asking Cam as he thought we over paid, and if Bernier was the real deal other teams would of blew our offer out of the water.....im simply saying LA did well considering Canucks got a top prospect with no guarantees he would be worth a top goalie.
But you have to ask yourself with the benefit of hindsight in seeing how Frattin's career has unfolded, how high would he be drafted if there was a do over in his draft year. Would he now be drafted top 20 first round?
thats always going to be debated. what ifs, and diamond in the rough players.....look no further than det who draft well into the late rds and find amazing players....
@Knights2Leafs absolutely true much as I like Frattin
no i said they draft well and have drafted some diamond in the rough in the late rds who turned into amazing players
fair enough but he is no guarantee,,,,would you trade kessel for a top 10 pick?
i sure as hell wouldnt, and would expect more in return
@Knights2Leafs I wouldn't
@whalz Again, Ii would really appreciate if you read my comments thoroughly. I never said we overpaid,