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108 comments
Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Fighting IS illegal in NHL. Punishment is far less than other leagues.

Leafs rule
Leafs rule

No decision has been made in regards to which goaltender will get the starting nod for the season opener. Philadelphia coach Peter Laviolette must choose between Steve Mason, who was acquired from the Columbus Blue Jackets late last season, or Ray Emery, who went 17-1-0 with a 1.94 goals-against average for the Chicago Blackhawks in 2012-13 before signing with the Flyers as a free agent.

Heres hoping Emery has the shits tonight and Mason plays ,cause Emery can/will fight ,dont want Bernier fighting him either 

Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

Awesome we will pay millions to watch figure Skating ! 

Sweet

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

Last I looked the players are adults, have chosen this career path, understand the risks involved and still see a need for fighting in the game.   Don't understand why this is an issue.

mcloki
mcloki

@Giller @wendelsway1 we've had guys close to death from just physical exurtion. Shoul dwe slow the game down, stop them from hitting the weights.  

If the refs called the small shit. Liberal use of Unsportmanlike conduct. Facewash, unsportsmanlike. Any rat like behaviour that isn't penalized just leads to trouble.

CanuckUKinToronto
CanuckUKinToronto

@Giller @wendelsway1  

Compare it to coal mining... in the US alone 30 people die per year in the industy.. they have not stopped mining.. They take precautions.. NHL is too.. like helmet rule.. to curb injury.. They would have banned it years ago if they thought it was what the fans wanted or the players wanted.. Players also want the fighting to protect each other.. - like Tocchet quote.. the issue is the staged fighting that no one likes

djamon
djamon

@Yaknowwhat Quoting guys in the game now serves no purpose. Of course they love fighting...it's what they're used to. But, like I said...one generation of players is all it will take to change that attitude. One generation of kids who never had to deal with these guys and could just play.

Airfreshener
Airfreshener

@djamon @Airfreshener I'd be interested in seeing a poll or some kind of study done in this subject. Basically we won't see a change until the NHL is sure they wont lose money from banning fighting or can see a gain in money from banning it.

djamon
djamon

@Airfreshener I didn't say a majority wanted fighting gone. I said not all were happy with it. If a poll said that 25% were against fighting would that be enough to change things?

These pools are only given to existing hockey fans. What about the people who aren't hockey fans BECAUSE of the fighting?

Airfreshener
Airfreshener

@djamon @CanuckUKinToronto How is it false. Lets take a sample... A majority of posters here like it just fine, a few don't. Extrapolate the results = a majority of the fans fine with fighting meaning it won't change.

djamon
djamon

@CanuckUKinToronto This argument that it's what the fans want is absolutely false. And who cares what the current players want...it's irrelevant to the argument. None of them wanted to wear helmets when they were mandated into the game.

GreekGod
GreekGod

@djamon @Yaknowwhat 

Really cause last season, a shortened season, matched the total number of fights from the previous full 82 game season. Fighting was down for a couple years but it's clearly on the rise. 

GreekGod
GreekGod

@djamon @GreekGod 

it is part of the game. Guys like Kadri have stated that they can go out and do there job because guys like Orr and MaClaren are there to protect them. From who you ask... well cheap shot artists. 

djamon
djamon

@GreekGod You just don't get it, do you. I'm not against fighting...I have no problem with the UFC. I'm against it in hockey. I don't consider it a part of the game.

djamon
djamon

@Yaknowwhat Of course it's been reduced. Are you old enough to have watched hockey in the 70's or 80's? 

djamon
djamon

@GreekGod This is a ridiculous argument. I'm amazed you actually believe it. Rats will always be a part of this game...fighting has not reduced their numbers in the least. 

Besides since you guys all think fighting is so harmless wouldn't you rather have these rats dealt with by giving them a nice 2-hander across the head? Isn't that preferable to fighting them?

GreekGod
GreekGod

@Yaknowwhat @djamon 

I agree. Plus if people are that serious about taking fighting out of hockey then they better shut down the UFC first. 

GreekGod
GreekGod

@djamon @GreekGod 

Exactly my point. Rats like Keleta don't change. But it stops other players from becoming rats. You think some mediocre player wants to have Colton Orr or Frazer MacClaren dropping them? Fuck no. 

Guys like Keleta and Prust will turtle or hide behind the refs or finally find a dancing partner that they know they can handle. 

djamon
djamon

@Yaknowwhat Yes...all of them staged.

Tell me about the rules for 3rd man in, or leaving the bench...or instigator. These are all restrictive changes to fighting that have happened in the last 30 years. Now it's helmets.

It's happening.

djamon
djamon

@GreekGod Nope. Do you? Because last time I looked Kaleta was still a rat douche.

GreekGod
GreekGod

@djamon @GreekGod 

It's not keeping them out... It's keeping them from multiplying. 

We saw it last year when Keleta took a cheap shot on Franson. Next puck drop Colton Orr went at him and started feeding him punches while Keleta turtled. You don't think that sends a message? 

Now if another player sees that... I'm sure he'll think twice before having to deal with Orr. Guys like Keleta don't change. Hence why they are rats

djamon
djamon

@Yaknowwhat No...the removal of fighting has been happening for 40 years.

djamon
djamon

@Yaknowwhat This isn't knee jerk. It's been happening for 40 years. You understand that, right?

djamon
djamon

@GreekGod Yeah...because the fact that fighting is in the game has done a great job of keeping the rats out to this point.

Fighting does not achieve what people think. It's just entertainment for the masses.

Giller
Giller

@GreekGod @djamon @Yaknowwhat Another stupid argument. Make suspensions meaningful, call penalties, and these things will take care of themselves. NFL is all about body contact, but you don't see this shit in there. No reason why it can't be removed from hockey.

GreekGod
GreekGod

@djamon @GreekGod 

Yup it may be an assumption but I sure as hell don't want to find out. If I see a rat out there, I want him takin care of before he takes a cheap shot at Kessel

ingy56
ingy56

@djamon @GreekGod They are already doing that and rarely stand up for their actions. No reason to think that would change.

djamon
djamon

@GreekGod That's the assumption. But that's all it is...an assumption. 

GreekGod
GreekGod

@djamon @Yaknowwhat 

You take fighting out of the game and guys like Keleta and Prust will be free to run around like idiots. 

Giller
Giller

@Yaknowwhat @Giller @wendelsway1 This is a ridiculous argument. Checking and shooting are intrinsically part of the game. Show me the rule book where it outlines the proper way to fight. Do they teach it in hockey school? Would you want your kids to be fighting in their little league games?  It's something that has been tolerated (or encouraged), but it's out of hand. I don't mind fighting occasionally, but when you've got players who train for fighting, can't even play hockey, seeking each other out it's nonsense.

djamon
djamon

@Yaknowwhat It doesn't matter what the guys who play think. They don't make the rules...they never have.

When fighting is out of the game it'll take one generation of players to be on board. Just one.

djamon
djamon

@Yaknowwhat Bodychecking and shooting are parts of the game. And fighting is not. It's been around so long that people actually think it is...but it's not.

I love a good fight...but it's not what hockey is about to me.