Maple Leaf Hangout Episode #8: Reimer, Leivo, Rielly

Maple Leaf Hangout Episode #8: Reimer, Leivo, Rielly

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We’re live for episode 8 of the MLHS Hangout.

Tonight’s topics:

- Reimer’s injury
- The turnover problem
- Rielly
- Emergence of Leivo

and more.

Founded in 2008, Maple Leafs Hotstove (MLHS) has grown to be the most visited unofficial team-focused hockey website online (Quantcast). Independently owned and operated, MLHS provides thorough and wide ranging content, varying from news, opinion and analysis, to pre-game and long-form game reviews, a weekly feature piece, the "Leafs Notebook", along with a Web TV show the "Maple Leaf Hangout".
389 comments
HeatherRickAkin
HeatherRickAkin

ok, heres one that should get some fires burning ....rumour that the Leafs and Oilers talked about Yakupov and when the Oilers wanted Gardiner, the Leafs backed away. Now, I don't know if the deal involved just Jake and Nail...but if it did, and you are Toronto, you have to make the deal. I love Gardiner, but Yakupov , if he stays, is going to be Phil Kessel good, for a long time.

CanuckUKinToronto
CanuckUKinToronto

I think Gards should be told to be Gards.... He is pressured too much to worry about D and he is not bringing the offfense that he brought like vs Bruins.  Tell him to not panic about giveaways.. play the effective defense- take the body, ensure his d partner or forward is able to cover before pressing but to do "his stuff"... he will be more effective that way.. he has improved defensively but think he has to just let loose and go for it

Optimustic
Optimustic

For anyone wondering about Ryan, he's back in the game for the Sens.

Leafbites
Leafbites

Luongo terrible. Have some sense Canada brass, please. 

Optimustic
Optimustic

Crosby with a goal and 2 assists so far.   3 - 3.

Cameron19
Cameron19

Jonathan Toews has scored the same number of goals as Nikolai Kulemin throughout their last 30 games. Expect him to score 7 goals tonight, lol. 

Jay31
Jay31

The Hawks are apparently splitting Kane and Toews tonight, so the top 6 will be:

Saad - Toews - Hossa  

Sharp - Handzus - Kane

Zep2
Zep2

Looks like the only tiMe Senaturds get to play with the puck is on the PP

Biltmore
Biltmore

My comments aren't showing... am I on the pay-no-mind list?

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

No time like the present to go into Chicago and beat 'em in their own backyard......Leafs win 3-2...Bolland with a goal.......GO LEAFS GO!!

The_Polish_Cannon
The_Polish_Cannon

Just beat the Blackhawks 4-1 on NH. I only won 2 faceoffs out of 19, was heavily out possessed, phaneuf beat the fuck out of Bickell and than again JVR tuned him up. Sounds about right Go Leafs Go !

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

Well what do you know Matt Frattin is expected to be a healthy scratch tonight.

Leafbites
Leafbites

@CanuckUKinToronto Long season, I think be patient with Gards, he's playing well. His offensive game will come through. 

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Imagine the "inconsistent ... trade him" tirades if he was a Leaf?

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Read a story this week about how they're worried about their fall-off in goal scoring so far.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Back to being the Sens from two seasons ago. Fans were predicting wonderous things for this year.

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

"Frattin was among the Kings who lapsed in allowing Nashville's Matt Cullen to score a first-period goal Thursday. And when a similar Predators pass got by Frattin and pressured Kings' defenders about midway through the third period, he found his ice time in the Kings' 2-1 shootout victory down to 2 minutes, 22 seconds after the second intermission. Frattin, 25, is goalless with three assists through eight games for the Kings (5-3), and his goal differential of minus-five is the worst among Kings forwards. He has only one shot on net in the past three games. Although Sutter said Friday he didn't bench Frattin for any specific reason, Frattin said it was made clear to him afterward, with an assistant coach telling him, "I can't play you if this is going to happen this late in the game and the score's 1-1." Oct. 19 - 10:20 am et"

Weird seeing how everyone thought we were giving away a 30 goal scorer...

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Xxxxxnew Ugh, whenever a team has a problem, they seem to rectify it against us. 

whalz
whalz

LMAO yes a certain someone In particular was saying how we gave up a solid winger who would probably score 25-30goals playing in a top 6 role on La...

Optimustic
Optimustic

@vinoa @Optimustic @wiski Not sure it didn't look too serious, his knee buckled after a shot.  Knees are the proverbial achilies heel for hockey players.

Optimustic
Optimustic

@Xxxxxnew At least this time it's in Chicago.   Not sure if it'll make any difference or not in the outcome though.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

I think we can match up with them, but I always have concerns about battle- hardened teams like Chicago. They seem to know how to be patient and not panic even when the team isn't going well, they have enough balance to lull you to sleep and then counter punch with a couple of PP goals. Hope whoever we have in net has his best game of the year so far. And maybe Bolland has has some tricks up his sleeve.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Xxxxxnew Having said that, they were having scoring problems in the playoffs last year too.  Toews has only 5 goals in last 30 games.  Hossa and Sharp are starting to slow down, too. 

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Yeah, Saturday night in Toronto homecoming syndrome.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

That must have been like a spike through his heart.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@whalz Almost no one said we'd really miss Frattin, so again, not sure what you, and others who share your opinion on this, are on about.  Virtually no one has ever disagreed with any of this, yet there is constantly a portion of the site pretending there was, and beating their chests about their own genius in opposing this imaginary force, lol. 

whalz
whalz

Yes that's the point, he's not that kind of player (some put these lofty expectations on him) once again Leaf Nation likes to over value our players or prospects...he is a healthy scratch and has looked meh..are we really missing those 2 guy? (Fratts, Colborne) who were considered top prospects for us..

Fratts or Raymond?

Colborne or Leivo?

Mac or Clarkson?

Grabs or Bolland?

Scrivens or Bernier?

Nonis has done an incredible job........

Cameron19
Cameron19

@whalz Well, he was playing a top six role in every game he's played so far - next to Richards and Carter. 

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

People have to remember Jake's only been playing D for 5-6 years since he switched from forward just before college in 2008. Pro learning curve is huge for kid who have been playing D for 10-12 years from the time they were youngsters.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

And Gus, for god's sake.

peterbleafs
peterbleafs

@Yaknowwhat @Jay_Berg Not me, not me and not me.  All of them were expendable always in my mind and in my comments.  But the whole idea of this site is to have that different opinion.  I thought Frattin was a best a 3rd liner when he joined the Leafs.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Jay_Berg I think if you go back and look you'd be very surprised. Anyone who was being even the tiniest bit critical was being destroyed and accused of thinking Frattin was a superstar. Most of the commentary was about whether or not another goalie was a wise place to spend assets after Reimer had just finished 9th in the league for goalie stats. 

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But yes, there were a few who were wildly over-the-top about what Frattin was.  I still think he's a 25G, 40P man.  However, I'm starting to wonder if he'll be able to achieve that on the Kings. They just don't score enough goals for him to put up numbers like that.  Even Mike Richards can't really get anything going there. 

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

Dude people were freaking when the trade went down