Notes: Carlyle showing patience, Rielly’s status

Notes: Carlyle showing patience, Rielly’s status

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It’s not that we should be identifying a group of players or a particular line or a defence pair that needs to be changed in order for the Leafs to get back on track after what, in fairness, has been three really poor games in a row despite the win over Minnesota. It’s better team play overall that is required.

The Leafs forwards need to commit to getting back, supporting the defence, and transitioning up the ice as a unit by breaking out with good puck support. What I thought Carlyle’s team did better, in the very general sense last season, was pressure the puck when they didn’t have it (the team used its speed to get in the face of the opposition, finish a check, and slow them down), and support the puck better when in possession on the breakout (while this wavered throughout the season, sometimes being really poor, we saw progress in this area particularly as the playoff series wore on against Boston). We’ve seen some bad habits developing on the breakout and a lack of forechecking pressure which allowed the Hawks to dominate the Leafs for huge spells unabated on Saturday night.

Carlyle was preaching patience, trying to stay positive, and taking it light and easy with some wrong-handed ball hockey to start today’s practice in place of a bag skate. Carlyle mentioned himself that “everyone” was expecting a grueling skate today, but he seems confident he can get through to the players without lashing them so early on in the process. “New Carlyle,” and all that. I’m sure the injuries (and suspension) factors into Carlyle’s patience here as well.

After the ball hockey, Carlyle had the team work on some neutral zone stuff in practice today, stressing a need for the Leafs to ratchet up their pace between the bluelines.

Carlyle will coach against the Anaheim Ducks for the first time as bench boss of the Leafs 24 hours from now. Let’s hope the players take stock of RC’s patient approach and really put it on the line for him tomorrow night. You know Carlyle wants this win and hopefully the players deliver him a better effort.

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Is 40 games the new 9 games for Rielly?

There was a point worth noting from Elliott Friedman’s 30 Thoughts, in case you missed this discussion on an earlier thread today, as it pertains to Morgan Rielly’s status. Apparently, while the Leafs would burn the first year of Rielly’s ELC by playing him in his 10th game, he has to be on the active roster for 40 games before the credit goes to his arbitration and free agency determinants. The 40th game of the season is also right around Christmas time, so the World Junior consideration could also play into it.

Rielly has done enough to prove that both him and the team would benefit from Rielly staying beyond 9 games. By the 40-game mark, the new car smell will have worn off and we should have a pretty good idea of where he stands.

Alec Brownscombe is the founder of MapleLeafsHotStove.com, where he has written daily about the Leafs since September of 2008. He was also the editor of the 2009-12 Maple Leafs Annuals. You can contact him at [email protected]
104 comments
Jordan29
Jordan29

I really dont want to see us retain salary on a Liles deal, but if we did a mil I can see a few teams being interested. Colorado you would think

Jay31
Jay31

Hope_Smoke ‏@Hope_Smoke

46m

Dreger on TSN Radio "I talked to someone from Team USA today and this person just basically said that they don't have that star impact"

Dreger "with all due respect to Phil Kessel, they just don't have that star centre or winger"

BPsotka
BPsotka

Just thought I'd let you know, there's a typo. "Carlyle will coach against the Anaheim Ducks for the first time as bench bess of the Leafs 24 hours from now. " Should say bench boss.

docyqx
docyqx

thanks for the quick and very interesting read, Alec,

Nice to know that Reilly's "try out" can be extended slightly without too much negativity.

Your take on Carlyle , sort of waiting on the return of injured , suspended players , the wait and see approach seems to be the same approach the players themselves have BEEN taking,

The players seems to be waiting for Clarkson, Kulemin , Fraser , McClaren or ANYONE to step up,

gotten away from the whole team approach that most of us here saw last spring.

The_Irv
The_Irv

Del Zotto is in play??? Good ol Stouffville boy. He would be a pretty interesting acquisition... Could make someone else expendable in a bigger package. If he was a right handed shooter I would be all over this.

Optimustic
Optimustic

Thanks for the article Alec. I almost thought it was Anthony's writing until I came to the end so quickly.  

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

Going live in half an hour on the Maple Leaf Hangout. Anthony Petrielli will be on.

Dangle_My_Berries
Dangle_My_Berries

anyone else download BBM for android or iphone? I just got the app for Android and I have to wait for an email confirmation to start using it. Anyone else get their email?

Cameron19
Cameron19

From Friedman's blog:

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16. As the Avalanche prepare for what should be a great game in Pittsburgh on Monday, I asked a couple of scouts about the biggest difference between their young players and Edmonton's. The No. 1 answer was "Colorado's check." The other response was, "They really come back to get the puck, so their defencemen don't have to handle it much."

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Same problem as us. 

Dangle_My_Berries
Dangle_My_Berries

leafs tv to air behind the draft some day soon, cant wait to watch that!

EricWarren
EricWarren

The one thing that I've noticed is with the absence of Mike Kostka, no one on the roster seems to know how to finish a check, or they're afraid of being penalized. Either way, if you don't finish your check, the opposing team will have room to play because they think they can play basically un challenged.


ingy56
ingy56

@Jordan29 Sounds like the Leafs are just willing to do Liles a solid and get him a job with an NHL team. 

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Jay31 This is a stupid comment though. Outside of Crosby, Canada doesnt either. We just have a lot of players who are constantly praised because of the Canadian media. Parise, Kessel, and Kane are 1st line players on team Canada as well IMO

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

and it normally would be. He's slacking this week and doing the Hangout instead.

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

@rustynail Really good one after practice there. Very impressive individual. Talented, smart, and damn handsome

#mancrush

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

@EricWarren I agree with your point, but not that Mike Kostka's absence is the main reason behind it.

daniel marois
daniel marois

@theacs1966 

If the Oilers are interested in Reimer - Yakupov has to be part of the return.  I don't care what anyone says about not needing a winger. You can never have enough top-six wingers.  Clarkson can move down to an effective third-line role. 

BPsotka
BPsotka

@theacs1966 "

  1. Oct. 7. According to Philly.com, the Flyers have been looking atCalgary Flames winger Curtis Glencross, possibly in exchange for a defenceman:" Wouldn't the Flyers first need to attain a defenseman to trade one away?

theacs1966
theacs1966

@TheCanucksnaphook He looks good setting up Brennan on the PP.  Shame for the Marlies to lose him, but it means someone else will have the chance to step it up.

theacs1966
theacs1966

@Burtonboy I would love to see Tootoo with a Maple Leaf on his chest, too bad we don't have shit for capspace.

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

@Burtonboy Maybe Blacker's costume for Halloween will be an OKC Barons jersey. lol.

Liles + a prospect + retained salary to ship him out? Pick coming back?

vinoa
vinoa

@Jordan29 The US team is a little thin down the middle but that doesn't mean they don't have stars. As for Canada, I think it's safe to say that Crosby's not the ONLY star on the roster (Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaf, etc)

Jay31
Jay31

@Jordan29 @Jay31 Yeah I found the comment ridiculous. All three of those guys are star wingers

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

@daniel marois @theacs1966 It might be less about getting a winger and more about giving up the guy who could very well still be our number one goalie for the indefinite future

theacs1966
theacs1966

@Alec Brownscombe @theacs1966 @daniel marois And that is why I said I'm not interested in Yak right now.  I don't think Reimer will be moved until the trade deadline, or at least till after xmas.  I don't like the idea but I think the Leafs plan to get rid of him, if an offer comes along like, Reimer for last yrs first overall, then I'd say do it.  Labarbera would have to come back to be our back up.  It won't likely be one for one.

theacs1966
theacs1966

@Alec Brownscombe @daniel marois @theacs1966 That's what you give up in a big trade.  It would help both teams.  Yak could very well be our next Kessel.  At 20, it's hard to tell what kind of player he will be, but first overall just last yr is good  pedigree, and our goalie is one hit away from retirement, also, he's RFA part of a long list of free agents we need to sign.  I don't really want Yak at the moment and I'm a Reimer guy but this could work out well for both teams.  This 1,1a doesn't usually last very long.