HBO 24/7: Leafs / Red Wings Episode #3 Best Clips

HBO 24/7: Leafs / Red Wings Episode #3 Best Clips

The third of four episodes spans from the shootout win over Phoenix to the shootout loss at the hands of the Rangers before the Christmas break (after which Joffrey Lupul is followed while Christmas shopping and James van Riemsdyk and his family are featured in their annual Christmas shinny game). The centerpiece of the episode is, naturally, the first meeting of the season between the Wings and Leafs.

The full episode will air tonight on Sportsnet. For American-based viewers, it’s available on the HBO website.

Lots to see in this episode, but here are a few quick Leafs clips of interest:

Randy Carlyle wants the Leafs’ centers to be tougher in the faceoff circle:

This scrum was at the practice following the win over Phoenix:

A good point: If you’re going to lose ‘em, at least make the opponent pay a price.

Cronin’s speech before the Detroit matchup:

– Cronin emphasizes the “first three strides” and the “last three strides” in getting back to the hashmarks so that the Leafs’ “swarm” (their performed nomenclature for what many have called the ‘collapse’ system) can be effective.
– Cronin continues, “You can question whether you demonstrate that commitment night to night.”
– The coaching staff likes to pick on Naz.

David Clarkson defends the honour of Jonathan Bernier’s water bottle:

#Intangibles #EarningthePaycheque

David Clarkson Rides the Subway:

Kind of a cool ritual.

Claude Loiselle debriefs Dave Nonis on Phaneuf negotiations:

Term, money, structure agreed to; details of the no move/no trade were the sticking point at this time. Complete with the creative nicknames we’ve come to expect of hockey people.

258 comments
JamesHensler
JamesHensler

what was the song at the start of the episode?

Conski
Conski

Hey guys, I know i'm not the oldest member here, but i'm a die hard leafs fan and have no access to my hbo here (mexico). Anyone have a hook up? Much appreciated - Connor

PPquarterback
PPquarterback

Does anyone have a link to the full episode?

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

IMO.....if youngsters want to be on the Leafs roster, they can show up to camp in shape and earn it.  People bitch about needing veteran leadership and yet are so quick to dismiss vets, when a youngster comes up and plays a few good games.  A few good games does not a full NHL season make.  Depth allows us to develop rookies and play them in a position to succeed......when they've earned it.

PuckisLife
PuckisLife

anyone got a link for us canadians to watch episode 3? 

Optimustic
Optimustic

I see Sweden won 10 - 0.   I hope Nillsson was playing.  Would have been a good game to pad his Corsi stats.   Sort of keep the MSM off his back when he comes to TO.   :-)

TheJFish
TheJFish

Man, i hate how some leafs fans are livid over the possibility of signing Phaneuf to a 7x7, and not because of the cap, because of them thinking Phaneuf is not what this team needs. I guess they don't realize we can't use that on one of those often-occurring elite level defensemen that hit the open every year who play 25+ mins a night, shutdown top lines with a partner like Gunnarsson, plays on the PP, and captains their teams. People really got to stop the circlejerk and understand what Phaneuf means to this team and how screwed we would be without him.

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

Burn the Boats

Feed the Chickens

We're Not Here to Fold our Fucking Tents


Carlyleisms. 

MaxwellHowe
MaxwellHowe

In his defence he has gone from top 6 to bottom six because of upgrades (JVR), and he is dependable, but my advocacy for trading him is about asset management and the cap, not so much a criticism.

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@Gilbey93 Kuli's offensive stats are not different from Clarkson and both have that one 30 goal outlier.   Clarkson has the reputation of apparently being hard to play against.  Kulemin I don't think is a slouch as he hits hard but not as much a pest as Clarkson.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Gilbey93 And I think the cap ceiling was 48 million when he signed it.  So at the start of the last deal, he was occupying  13.5% of the cap.  At the start of this deal, he'll be occupying about 9.8% of the cap. 

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

@Gilbey93 None of our top players are likely to get dealt......we're in the mix for playoffs.

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@Gilbey93 He is not a top player but I think Raymond will be dealt or walk.     

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@TheJFish From what I read both the advanced stats folks and and HFboards are on the Phaneuf is over rated, not good captain and bad signing bandwagon etc.  That said with 7M and 7 years, expectations will rise for Phaneuf and so it should not surprising at the reaction as it seems a lot of the same people feel he hasn't lived up to his first contract.  

Cameron19
Cameron19

@MaxwellHowe Yea, it's kind of baffling how people can continually overlook roles. Grabovski in a scoring role playing at a 70 point pace, but Leaf fans told me he was unable to score points last year - what gives?  Oh yea...roles...

Burtonboy
Burtonboy

 I got a link for 24/7 if you want it

MaxwellHowe
MaxwellHowe

Is hanging onto a final playoff spot worth letting assets go for nothing? Burke said no (but acted otherwise). It's a point of debate

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@MaxwellHowe Of that list, I wonder about how they see Kulimen's future on the team.  I can see they want someone with more edge for that role but it will be hard to replace his level of skill

Knights2Leafs
Knights2Leafs

@Gilbey93

It seems to me that his time with JMC and Kulie is more recent and not where he started. Because of injuries and suspensions no line has been consistent though.

Knights2Leafs
Knights2Leafs

@Gilbey93 @wendelsfist 

I'd say because his numbers were down early, that's why he's now playing with JMC and Kulie.  The natural 2nd line we all looked forward to was Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson but Raymond has been way better offensively regardless of what line he has played on.

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@Gilbey93 @wendelsfist @MaxwellHowe Then in retrospect he should have been dealt during the Wilson era collapse as an expiring UFA (Hawks/Wings were interested).    Wilson didn't think Kadri was ready to play #2C but Randy preferred Kadri as the #2C

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@MaxwellHowe In retrospect trading Mac last year would have been manageable.   I have no clue if Grabbo could be traded.   I suppose for less return then Pominville to the Wild.  

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@MaxwellHowe If Ashton fits that role, I'd trade Kuli for something (maybe in a package to fill another hole) and call up Ashton now.   No need to let him walk for nothing

MaxwellHowe
MaxwellHowe

Kulimen will probably want too much $. Ashton can fill his role on the cheap.

Optimustic
Optimustic

@Gilbey93 @Optimustic I was just going to mention that.   I just caught the end of the game, so I'm not sure if he scored or even played, either.

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

@wendelsfist @Knights2Leafs @TheJFish Really?.....funny that it was the guys on this site going on and on about the size of Phaneuf's closet........wasn't me.....and I have always been a Dion supporter.......guess I'm just not a normal female...thank God.....normal is boring...lol  :)

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@Knights2Leafs @wendelsfist @TheJFish   

well looking at PHaneuf's facebook page it seems most of the female fans don't seem to like Phaneuf.  The male hockey fans are generally pro-Phaneuf.  It might simply be the size of shoe closet and hollwywood wife envy?

Knights2Leafs
Knights2Leafs

@wendelsfist @TheJFish 

Not sure how those 2 issues are connected. I love Dion and think with Rielly and hopefully Gardiner we will have a great defense corps over the length of his contract.

If RC doesn't right the ship soon, there's a strong possibility he will be gone at the end of the season. 

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@TheJFish @wendelsfist Are the same fans about Phaneuf having  no leadership skills and is #3D the same fans that want to fire Carlyle because he is a below average NHL level coach?