HBO 24/7 Episode #4: Best Clips

HBO 24/7 Episode #4: Best Clips

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HBO 24/7: Maple Leafs - Red Wings

The moment you’ve all been waiting for (and it lives up to the hype) – Phil Kessel up close and personal on the final episode of HBO 24/7:

The Phil Kessel vs. Dion Phaneuf Ping Pong Rematch (same result):

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mike_84
mike_84

any links to download 24/7?

sniperstar
sniperstar

@wiski I'd like to see a Dion - P.K pairing on team CDN. You know like how JVR and Kessel should be with Statsny. Get a preview of the Leafs new starting line up in a couple of years ;)

Luke_R
Luke_R

@wiski Letang injuries really derailed him this year... interesting to see if they still like him or not despite this.. Bob thinks No and id agree

TheJFish
TheJFish

@wiski Not bad, similar to what I have but I really don't think Nash should be there at all, or have couture on the first line. I also think we should take Kunitz in the extra forward spot just in case Crosby can't find good linemates. If he does though, Kunitz sits. Sort of a low-risk high-reward thing.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@wiski Hate that Vlasic, Hamhuis and Bouwmeester will be our Olympians - if he's accurate in his guesses. 

vinoa
vinoa

@Bobsyouruncle I say we swap Franson and a pick for Andrew MacDonald. He's apparently on the market and is a UFA at season's end. I'm sure we could get him signed for under 3. Hell that's more than his entire contract. 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Bobsyouruncle And the 4-0 goal was on him, too (or was it the 5-0). I actually didn't think the game was THAT uneven despite the score at that point.  We had a ton of chances, hit some posts - our typical scoring chances that aren't shots. Franson is just out-matched on the 2nd pair, and Gardiner looked to be on the top pair, too.  Mind you, it was one game for Gardiner, and one where they played with only 5 D, so small sample size.  I think we've seen enough to know Franson is bottom pair.  Almost have to move him, because he's going to want 3.5 or more, and his stats will support that in arbitration. 

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@Bobsyouruncle His value is being right handed, a booming shot and offence.  Aside from the right handed shot, the leafs have other players that can contribute.   Ideally, he is replaced by another defensive right handed dman.  

mcloki
mcloki

Franson needs to sit and get over his injury.

Black_Hawk
Black_Hawk

@Bobsyouruncle the kreider goal where he blew past franson was his fault too. Never let a guy beat you imo, just take him out and take the penalty 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Black_Hawk @wiski Yea, Teravainen looks good.  He was touted as a guy that might be a surprise top 10 pick, and even mentioned in the top 5. But, they mix in some duds for all their great picks, too.  Beach and Olsen were high picks that amounted to nothing, same with Morin. They did very, very well with Saad.  We'll see about Teravainen. 

Luke_R
Luke_R

@Black_Hawk @wiski but we drafted 4th line maybe player Biggs! He's so good we gave up a pick like 10 later as well! Oh and then to complete the dynamic duo we got the girafee Gauthier! MM baby arent you excited!

Luke_R
Luke_R

@Cameron19 @Bobsyouruncle you must not remeber them missing chances too oh boy like I mean WIDE OPEN certain goals they could have had 2 more in the beginning, so maybe the score should have been 10-4 you suggest? LOL

Luke_R
Luke_R

@wendelsfist @Bobsyouruncle he has really regressed in his entire game.  Quite sad, but I believe he, like Kadri, and other over performers benefited last year form the season being so short. 

mcloki
mcloki

Who's name is?.???

Luke_R
Luke_R

@Black_Hawk @Bobsyouruncle but you see, thats where the issue is.  That would mean Franson has to give anounce of fuck.  Thats too much to ask for from him man! Get your shit together!

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Bobsyouruncle @Cameron19 Yea, exactly. Watching Pittsburgh a few times lately, I also noticed how opinions about players can be over-stated.  Many say that Orpik is slow, and granted, he looked slow today against the Jets - but I actually thought he looked pretty quick to pucks in the last few games i saw him in.  Funny how players have up and down games. 

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Our problem is simply that we don't have enough good players yet. If we had an extra good forward or two, and another proper D-man, we likely wouldn't be noticing the extremely debilitating effects of Kadri/Lupul not clicking, or Franson constantly erring in a role that is often too much for him. It's not some grand indictment of the team's soul, heart, locker-room or any other nonsense.  Carlyle's system may play a role in not getting the best out of what we have, but at the end of the day, with more good players, that likely isn't an issue either....

Luke_R
Luke_R

@Cameron19 @lukethenuke @wiski I dont know if thats true, maybe it is, but his ice tim in his last 10 games were always above 23:30, peaking 31 and a bit and a few 26 min nights... I think he just doesnt play more than 2 games without being shelved... which sucks cause hes in my fantasy :(:( 

PepTalk
PepTalk

@vinoa @PepTalk @Cameron19 @wiskiI like him better than Vlasic, Hamhuis and Subban. I also think that overall, once you take into account Bouwmeester's superior skating ability, that he's at least on par with him also.

vinoa
vinoa

@PepTalk @vinoa @Cameron19 @wiski I don't know about that. Bouwmeester and Pietrangelo are having a great year. Maybe Hamhuis and Vlasic? I haven't seen enough of the other guys to say Dion's been better than them. I'll definitely say that Keith, Doughty and Weber were all locks from the beginning. One or 2 of those guys, sure...but definitely not half of them.

PepTalk
PepTalk

@vinoa @PepTalk @Cameron19 @wiski Wasn't thinking snub but just icing the best possible team. I think Phaneuf is having a great year, much better than half on the D list and should be properly rewarded.

sniperstar
sniperstar

@lukethenuke @Black_Hawk @wiski First off, we traded up for Percy not Biggs... Second, neither have developed yet. Fuck they are still in the AHL and QMJHL respectively. Give them time to develop before you turn on our prospects. My goodness...

vinoa
vinoa

@Black_Hawk @vinoa @Bobsyouruncle Yeah and he's led the league the last couple of years in blocked shots. Plays a ton of minutes and puts up some points. The problem with a straight swap is that MacDonald makes 550k this year. I'm sure the Isles will want a lot more from a team so up against the cap like the Leafs.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@lukethenuke @Cameron19 @Bobsyouruncle You say that about every game though.  There's no doubt the Rangers were controlling the tempo and out-playing us, but we were still manufacturing chances on par with them. 

Black_Hawk
Black_Hawk

@Cameron19 @Black_Hawk @Bobsyouruncle yeah thats true but if we cud get something of good value for him i wud move him. but then again if he could turn it around and start dumping crosby on his head again he would be a solid d man for us. I think it all depends on what gardner gets. I dont see us able to keep both of them. 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Black_Hawk @Cameron19 @Bobsyouruncle Well, either way, it won't be a huge deal.  If we really don't want to pay him we can take him to arbitration and ask for a 2 year deal - which would mean only 1 more year of him (trade him the following summer). He would be a fantastic bottom pair D - albeit overpaid. 

mcloki
mcloki

Yet he tied the Ranger game and got them a point.

Luke_R
Luke_R

@mcloki what a slump it is Kadri looks like a complety different player out there, he cant even make a pass without it getting intercepted let alone skate with a little speed.

mcloki
mcloki

Say it's a sophomore slump. And learning. We will get through the tough times. And trust me they are not over yet.

Black_Hawk
Black_Hawk

@wendelsfist @mcloki agreed, if franson was more physical i would keep him over gardner but seeing that he and gardner play a pretty similar offensive Defenseman style game then ill take gardner b/c at least he is fast enough to catch players on break aways. 

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@mcloki We shouldn't knee jerk.   Franson is struggling as a second pairing compared to last year where in played well with Fraser as a third pair.   We need better second pairing depth be it internal or trade.  But we have lots of problems on the team.   If Franson is more about offence then defence, then between Gards/Reilly I don't see him being the best fit for the team.

mcloki
mcloki

It would be a knee jerk reaction. They need to add D not subtract. Unles Franson in a package brings back Duchene, Eberle or that ilk.

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@mcloki I have no clue.  It just seems Franson main strengths aside from his right handed shot are duplicated in the leafs line up if he can't shutdown and play good defence.