@SharkClubDundas Game Day: Game #75, Maple Leafs at Flyers

@SharkClubDundas Game Day: Game #75, Maple Leafs at Flyers

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There’s not a tonne to be said. It’s put up or shut up. Do or die. Whatever is your preferred hype-up sports cliche.

The Leafs should be able to find an edge with their speed up front versus the slower Philadelphia defence corps. The Flyers boast a potent offense, on the other hand, and have scored 3.3 goals per game since the end of their 15-game start from hell. The Flyers attack with four lines and, as Craig Berube put it, they “compete along the walls, compete in the offensive zone, use everybody to try to wear teams down.” They’ll know to come right after the Leafs D and seal up the walls.

Their top two lines (Hartnell, Giroux, Voracek /  McGinn, Schenn, Simmonds) have been productive  and Sean Couturier has been a shutdown/two-way force on a line with Matt Read.

This should be a great atmosphere in Philly and a good game, as well. The Flyers have the third most wins on home ice in the East behind only Pittsburgh and Boston.  It’s no easy task, but the Leafs made their own bed. The stakes are so high for the Leafs in this game, as a seventh straight regulation loss  pretty well means they’ll need to run the board starting with a back to back game against Detroit tomorrow.

 

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1534 comments
Hmmm
Hmmm

This team just seems to play better when they have some confidence, not over confidence but the sweet spot. When RC first came on, that boost of confidence helped them get into the playoffs with a remarkable surge last spring.

FrycersGhost
FrycersGhost

Honestly, I saw this coming at the first New York rangers game this year. Am I disappointed? Hell yes! There's no heart and soul player that pulls the team up by boot straps. I say draft smart this year ( shitty year I know ) then go all out next year at the draft. Nonis said we are getting better, but injuries played a big role this year. The fat lady hasn't sung but she's warming up hard core.

GeorgeCastanza
GeorgeCastanza

Burke is warming up a seat for Nonis in calgary. It's inevitable.

B_Leaf
B_Leaf

Congrats to the Raptors!!

Mattmark
Mattmark

It's hard to argue that Clarkson, Franson, Gunnar, Reimer and Orr are currently contributing much to the team, or are likely to contribute more in future.  If they could be packaged for the equivalent of Kessler, Bieksa and a pick, isn't that the kind of deal Nonis should be looking for this summer?  He's been pretty conservative up until now, and he's right to hang onto youngsters like Kadri, Rielly and Gardiner.  But shouldn't he be considering some dramatic moves in those parts of the roster that have exhausted their potential for growth?  Lupul, Kulemin, Raymond, Gleason and Phaneuf aren't going to get any better.  They can only decline from where they are, and where they are right now isn't much of anywhere in particular.

deedrag
deedrag

If we trade anyone from this team in the off season, we have to make sure they are faceoff beasts. This is a prerequisite!

deedrag
deedrag

Guys, we can't strip Dion of his Captaincy.  You first have to let things play out.  Second, once the season is over, you have to trade him. This allows you and him to save face and makes him look more attractive to the buyers. After the preseason you let the boys pick the captain, from a couple of assistant captains.

Habskilla
Habskilla

I just can't believe we are not going to make the playoffs again..I had such a blast watching the games and seeing all the people outside just hanging out. Hard to imagine it isn't going to happen this year.


I feel so let down. I was going to drive to TO and stay with my grandparents to watch a weekend game outside..Like, i was really looking forward to that...


Fuck man. I try not to take this personal but I was really looking forward to that. I was so envious of the people doing that last year...I can't believe it has come to this.

DJGLENN22
DJGLENN22

on a brighter note Blue Jackets lost as well....................so a big win tomorrow night puts use in a playoff spot for now then Tuesday we beat the Flames up

Hifi75
Hifi75

I think it's safe to say the leaf are a bit of a mess and no matter what no one move would be the answer. More like a series of moves

B_Leaf
B_Leaf

@CanuckUKinToronto  


All Nonis had to do was bring back last years team intact...possibly add another checking forward. 

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Kessler gave his permission to be traded at the deadline but his list specifically excluded Canadian teams. In fact I believe Van has the most no trade clause contracts n the league.

Hammertownleaffan
Hammertownleaffan

Oh we just trade him? Franson steps up I to his role? Were you happy with his play tonight, including that useless interference penalty on a 4th liner?.... Man.... F*** this season... What a waste it ended up being... All I learned is randy isn't right

Hmmm
Hmmm

@Habskilla  It felt like it was the start of something special.  That's the kind of crowd we need to rally chant the Leafs when they're down.  They don't lack skill, they lack BeLeaf and that crowd had lots to give.  They aren't a top tier team yet, but they are capable of being top 4 in their division.

In 48 games and 7 games, that team generated so much positive aura, something that was missing for nearly a decade.  It's still essentially the same team but this time it takes 82 games to get to the dance.

loomx
loomx

@CanuckUKinToronto @ Don Cherry  Grabovski has 3 times more goals and points than Clarkson in roughly the same amount of games. Plus he's actually useful on the ice even when he's not putting up points.

vinoa
vinoa

@CanuckUKinToronto @ Don Cherry  Grabbo's not shit. He definitely wasn't good for what he was asked to do by Carlyle but he was one of those players who gave it his all on those nights when things weren't going great. Still don't mind that he's gone though. Just wish they had a better plan than Clarkson, Bolland, and Bernier.

FrycersGhost
FrycersGhost

And how did we get komorov - the draft. Nonis saved our picks. ( first round I mean)

The marries are ok. Get rid of RC and get a players coach. We need to have much of our core team drafted by us. It makes a difference if you're drafted and developed by a team.

loomx
loomx

@Belfour20/JB-45 @FrycersGhost  Here we go again with the vague players. We don't have good enough players/coaches period. Has little to to with heart and soul.

vinoa
vinoa

@B_Leaf @CanuckUKinToronto  That's what really pisses me off. We didn't even know what we had last season before they overhauled it and left us with this crap.

Hmmm
Hmmm

@Mattmark @B_Leaf  Somewhat tired of seeing a revolving door of coaches, captains, rookies, goalies, and now GMs.  Toronto is a tough market for a young team to develop into a super team.  We expect too much too fast, not that it's all bad.

We  fans care about hockey.  Elsewhere, you can win the Cup and no one would know who you are.  In Ontario, everyone knows players like Wendel, yet he never won a Cup for us.  Here, you win a Cup ... you become immortal.

B_Leaf
B_Leaf

@Mattmark @B_Leaf  


Nonis demonstrated this off season that he doesn't have what it takes...not even close

Bruffins
Bruffins

@Bobsyouruncle @Bruffins  

the people that were against the trade took a lot of shit all year when Colborne wasn't producing. Just doesn't make sense to trade him for nothing so McLaren can have a spot. Especially when Colborne's contract was so nice

loomx
loomx

@CanuckUKinToronto @loomx @ Don Cherry  I see it as they took the $5mil from Grabovski who's only fault was that he wasn't being used properly by a coach who won't even be here next year and spent it on David Clarkson. There was no sane reason to do that. This was a team already thin at centre. Could've just put him on Kadri's wing and both Kadri and Lupul would've been better offensively. If one of your centres goes down, you have a competent backup.


But no, Randy, who by the way WILL NOT BE HERE NEXT YEAR, pushed out a perfectly good centre because he refused to use him in any sort of offensive role. 

vinoa
vinoa

@CanuckUKinToronto @vinoa @ Don Cherry  He had 30 points in his 1st 37 games. Granted he has 3 points in his last 12 games, but the last 3 were around the time of his injury. That's not to bad for a top 6 player. He probably is on the decline, but he's still better than Clarkson for that money.

FrycersGhost
FrycersGhost

I do think that's a big part of it. Burke stepped on someone's toes. Nonis is still a good gm. No one predicted clarkson should shit the bed, bolland would be injured and Kadri would not be better. That's sports and why ppl bet on it. It's a crap shoot. Anaheim sucked two years ago. Look at them now.

Hmmm
Hmmm

@FrycersGhost  Are you guys saying you preferred the Burke / Nonis combination?  It's possible that some people are the yin and yang for each other.

loomx
loomx

@Belfour20/JB-45 @loomx @FrycersGhost  I've consistently complained about Raymond, Franson, Orr, McClement, McLaren, and even Lupul. We have a lot of shitty players but Randy just seems to be worse at identifying the garbage because he keeps using them. That's a worse offense in my books.

Hmmm
Hmmm

@CanuckUKinToronto @Belfour20/JB-45 @B_Leaf  Perhaps they wanted the D to get experience this year, then bring up more forward rookies next year?  Sometimes it's hard to field rookie forwards and defense at the same time.

vinoa
vinoa

@CanuckUKinToronto @B_Leaf  Holzer and Kotska played top pairing minutes for good chunks of the season but we didn't even bother to give them a look as 5-6 options.

Hmmm
Hmmm

@CanuckUKinToronto @B_Leaf  What kind of defense upgrade could we have gotten without giving up the young stars?  Arguably, Rielly and Gardiner could become the upgrade, just needed time.

vinoa
vinoa

@CanuckUKinToronto @B_Leaf  We don't know for sure that last year's team wouldn't have been better than this year's team. We do know that the law of averages does hold true and the stats geeks will forever point to this team as their triumph.

Hmmm
Hmmm

@Pent_House @Mattmark @B_Leaf  Not sure what was meant by media, but I kinda understand.

My point was we give up too easily.  We recently gave up on Colbourne.  The GM may have been a part of it, but sometimes you take chances, some of his turned out fine.  Young teams do collapse as they learn so it just seems blowing up teams so early is giving up too quickly given this is a tough market.

B_Leaf
B_Leaf

@Hmmm @Mattmark @B_Leaf  


I don't disagree...not a fan of firing a GM, thats why you hire the right guy to start with