The Leafs sit in the 9th overall draft slot going into final game

The Leafs sit in the 9th overall draft slot going into final game

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You really shouldn’t cheer for the Leafs to lose to the Senators, ever. It is a veritable fanclub-card-revoking offence. But an educated fan should always enter a game like this knowing the draft stakes.

A regulation loss tonight ensures the Leafs will not pass the Senators or Predators (who each have two games left), and ensures the Leafs will draft at worst 8th overall in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft. Winnipeg, who won their final game of the season last night, would pass the Leafs on the head-to-head tie breaker.

A regulation loss would still leave the 7th overall pick as a possibility if Vancouver were to collect three of their final four points.

A win, meanwhile, could push the Leafs down as far as 11th, depending on how the Predators and Senators fare in their remaining games.

What happened last time the Leafs played the Senators with draft pick positioning hanging in the balance, again?

Prediction: Troy Bodie hat trick.

Pick
Lottery Odds
1 - Buffalo25.00%
2 - Florida18.80%
3 - Edmonton14.20%
4 - Calgary10.70%
5 - NY Islanders8.10%
6 - Vancouver6.20%
7 - Carolina4.70%
8 - Toronto3.60%
9 - Winnipeg2.70%
10 - Ottawa2.10%
11 - New Jersey1.50%
12 - Nashville1.10%
13 - Phoenix0.80%
14 - Washington0.50%
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517 comments
phaneufoundlander
phaneufoundlander

The God dam schabs make me sick, those lucky bastards just won the game in OT on a penalty shot, are you kidding me? Those bastards have a horse hoe wrapped in a 4 clover up their asses.......man I hope Tampa lights them up in the first round....they are really pissing me off.

Radar O'Rielly
Radar O'Rielly

I'm not one for tanking, never have.  That being said they will probably blow up the Sens tonight, probably see a hattie from Jay McClemment.

Jordan29
Jordan29

So whats the deal with Bolland anyways, Thats whats really frustrating me. We paid a high price to get him, now he might walk unless we overpay him. Fuck that sucks. Florida is probably going to offer him 5+ mil. They need to spend like 30 mil this summer to hit the floor 

mcloki
mcloki

8th would be excellent. What a way to salvage this season ending  


Ten "Carlyle" PileUp.

Cameron19
Cameron19

Tyler Bozak and Nazem Kadri (CAP HIT: 7.10M):

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134 gp, 39g, 60a, 99p, -9

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Eric Staal and Jordan Staal (CAP HIT 14.25M):

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159 gp, 34g, 65, 99p, -11

Cameron19
Cameron19

I don't mind the idea of the Staals brothers but I think they fall under the category of not wanting to bother with that spotlight right now. 

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

Bozak, Kadri, Reimer + prospect for Staal bro's (Lieweke convinces them to wave, Carolina wants to rebuild)

JVR. E.Staal. Kessel

Lupul. J.Staal. Clarkson

Leivo. Holland. UFA.

Komarov. Boyle. D'Amigo.

Bodie.

Jordan29
Jordan29

Heres my roster, but not really sure its possible because it only takes out Kadri, Reimer, Franson, Holland, other prospects, and our 1st rounders. But it would be nice to see us finally built from the centre ice position

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James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Eric Staal ($8.250m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m) 
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Jordan Staal ($6.000m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m) 
Leo Komarov ($1.500m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Josh Leivo ($0.793m) 
Jerry D'Amigo ($0.700m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Jamie Devane ($0.660m) 
Carter Ashton ($0.700m) / 
DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) 
Jake Gardiner ($2.250m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m) 
Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m) / Petter Granberg ($0.800m) 
Korbinian Holzer ($0.788m) / 
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m) 
Drew MacIntyre ($0.800m) 
BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m) 
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m) 
Tim Gleason ($0.833m) 
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $71,067,500; BONUSES: $1,082,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $32,500

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

I think we should get B.Schenn. Big upgrade over Kadri

......muahahaha (evil grin)

the gardner
the gardner

No. Keep Carlyle . Trade up in draft or trade for defensive help. Forget DeBoar, hes a one season wonder. Shanahan will blueprint us a winner.

Shafty
Shafty

@Jordan29  That's why Chi traded him in the first place. Foresight...

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Cameron19  Really think about it, when was the last time we had a defensively aware centre like J staal? Never?

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

If your argument is going to be based on points then you haven't learned anything from this season

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Cameron19  If you want to just use straight out stats then yes. But where there is many other aspects to the game thats why it would be nice to have them

dlb Mad
dlb Mad

@Jay_Berg

remember when the Staal brothers were united?  Ward was one of the best goalies in the league, the team's defense had some good parts.

then Tlusty and Semin found a niche and some young players like Skinner and Faulk were, or became wonderful parts?

what did the Staal brothers do with all that?

zip.

they're not the answer.

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Jay_Berg  If we are going to sign a bottom 6 centre UFA its going to be Mcclement. Hes a good fit here still

Jordan29
Jordan29

Kadri+Reimer+2014 1st+ 20151st+ Finn/Percy

FOR

Staal squared 

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Franson+Prospect

FOR

Bieksa

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Jay_Berg  I think I would like to have Schenn, but personally Im glad we got Kadri because it sort of made us trade Luke for JVR and that was a joke

Jordan29
Jordan29

@leafersutherland @Jordan29  well im just done with kulemin, hes not worth the 3+ mil he will want. Its like he forgot how to score and care. Mcclement will likely be back, and I have no clue about Bolland

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Jay_Berg  May I ask what exactly you're basing it on? It's not like these guys were in different roles than our guys. They're the top 2 centers for their teams, and the Staals were no better at preventing goals or getting their team to the playoffs than our guys. 

dlb Mad
dlb Mad

@Jordan29

there was a time.

right now, Eric doesn't show up half the time, he'd be our whipping boy soon enough.  not the kind of leader i'm interested in.

Jordan29
Jordan29

@dlb meh @Jay_Berg  point is JStaal is overpaid right now and attainable. E Staal is good but rumored to be available. Imagine both them here. When will we EVER be able to have that kind of centre depth?

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

Skinner got concussed. Ward is shit. Tlusty is shit. Semin is shit. No defence.

Staal's are not the issue in Carolina

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

I hate McClement. It's not even his fault it's because Carlyle made me hate him

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

Then get Carolina to eat some of the cap hits. They won't need it anyways

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

I don't want Schenn. Just wanted to see if anyone would take the bait *cough* Cam

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Jordan29 @Cameron19  Maybe they like playing together less than thought they would. The rumor this year was that only Eric would be available, for whatever it's worth. 

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Cameron19 @Jordan29  Me too, but with what they lost to get J Staal Im guessing you need to trade for both if you want them

Hmmm
Hmmm

@Jay_Berg  What, our chit better than their chit? (kidding)

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Jordan29 @Cameron19 @Jay_Berg  The thing with Eric is that he's tremendously bad defensively, and we really need someone who can help us in that department. The problem with Jordan is that he doesn't have enough skill to play with Kessel. 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Jordan29 @Cameron19 @Jay_Berg  No I didn't. I was all aboard when that rumor started. Please don't just invent my posting history. And in the last 3 years he has 180 points....a far cry from 250-300. I'd still look at them, even now, but they're a very costly option. 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Jay_Berg  Skinner, Ruutu and Semin are shit? 

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Skinner - 31g, 21a

Semin - 22g, 20a

Ruutu -  8g, 16a

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They don't have a Kessel, sure, but is this really dramatically different than JVR, Lupul and Clarkson? (and yes I'm aware Ruutu was traded at the deadline). 


Jordan29
Jordan29

@Cameron19 @Jay_Berg  2-3 years ago when Staal was a low buy and we were rumored to get him you said this same thiing. He has since scored 250-300 points. Imagine how many he would with kessel

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

They are surrounded by shit. C'mon you know they are better. It's a great buy low opportunity

dlb Mad
dlb Mad

@Jay_Berg

the importance of goaltending?  why, it was the difference for the Leafs being a 3rd seed or out of the playoffs.

Staals couldn't save CAR, they wouldn't have saved us either.

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

What have we learned about the importance of goaltending?

dlb Mad
dlb Mad

@Jay_Berg

you don't see how far CAR has fallen with the Staal's leading?

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

He's overrated. Not as good at faceoffs as people tend to think. Our PK sucks and he's the main guy. Doesn't hit. Just meh to me

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Jay_Berg  well for 1.5 mil you wont sign a better UFA bottom 6 guy. Thats Nonis's fault with the few bad contracts he signed that we have to scrape around paying pople

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Zep2 @Jordan29 @leafersutherland @Jay_Berg  no 5th, we were never close to 3rd. Would have had to deal Schenn+5th they said. Even Schenn+7th would have gotten 2nd overall and picked Duchene, man how much better would have Duchene-Kessel be.........fuck this STOP TALKING ABOUT IT