Decision on Randy Carlyle coming soon

Decision on Randy Carlyle coming soon

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According to Damien Cox, the decision on the futures of Randy Carlyle and his staff is expected to arrive sometime this week as Brendan Shanahan is on the verge of his first big decision(s) as Maple Leafs President.

Shanahan wasn’t going to begin clear cutting in haste without a thorough evaluation, top to bottom, of the organization he’s newly seized the reigns of. Indeed, as expected, he was seen meeting with many Leafs players in various spots throughout the city before they took off to their off-season locales. He’s also worked his way through the management and coaching staffs and took some days off to recover from a knee operation.

The vast majority of us cannot see a way bringing Randy Carlyle back could be justified. If the reports are to be believed the Leafs were – still are, one imagines, until Sharks ownership agrees with Doug Wilson and deems him safe – very interested in Todd McLellan after Pete DeBoer before him, so surely now it’s just a matter of time.

Many a novel have been written about the issues Carlyle created himself or failed to resolve. 84 points with 29 ROW, record-setting shots against totals, bottom five status on the PK and in goals against, this team handily underperformed relative to its talent level in a mostly-mediocre Conference, and the few things that kept it afloat throughout much of the year – great goaltending, Kessel and JvR’s big offensive years, a good PP – were all things that can’t really be credited in any serious way to Randy Carlyle’s coaching performance.

Worse yet, all three of those lifesavers deteriorated down the stretch and Carlyle owns some responsibility for that, too. Bernier was ridden hard in his first year as a starter, allowed (or, rather, given the option) to play hurt in Los Angeles, and Reimer was barely mixed into the rotation in the middle part of the season; Kessel and JvR were similarly ridden like rented mules while Carlyle routinely played forwards under 5 minutes, or didn’t dress a 12th at all. The Leafs have lost their 2nd round pick at the draft next month in order to barely use Peter Holland in more than a few of the games he played.

While Holland is a promising piece, let’s not forget part of the reason Holland was acquired in the first place was due to the discarding of Joe Colborne after a poor training camp, while Frazer McLaren and Colton Orr continued to occupy roster space. Ideally, the Leafs would’ve had both to provide some depth in the form of young centers with upside, Holland never would’ve had to have hit the threshold of games, and McClement wouldn’t have played so many minutes.

If Nikolai Kulemin walks this summer, a distinct possibility given reports of his desire to reunite with Mikhail Grabovski, Carlyle’s deployment and treatment of MacArthur (scratched in the playoffs) and Grabovski (we all know the story here) ensures that one of the best lines in hockey from 2010-11 may well end up entirely gone from the organization with the net return of exactly negative one compliance buyout.

Nonis owns a bigger share of all of this, given he is – or was – the ultimate decision maker. Among this litany of dubious asset management there’s also little doubt Carlyle and his version of roster management has been a chief actor. We can debate the ins and outs and order of things in each one of the above points as subjects of their own, but it’s difficult to argue with the general conclusions that a) the results have not been there in the short term, and b) he has waged damage to this organization long term and must be prevented from further turning any dials.

It’s possible Leaf management decides that, with two coaches with long track records of success in Wilson and Carlyle failing to get improved results out of this squad (especially defensively), it’s time to stop scapegoating the coach and instead opt for a serious personnel overhaul. Maybe we’ll just see a replacement of his assistants. That is to ignore a damning body of work by Carlyle, any way you slice it.

In the meantime we wait.

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Alec Brownscombe is the founder of MapleLeafsHotStove.com, where he has written daily about the Leafs since September of 2008. He was also the editor of the 2009-12 Maple Leafs Annuals. You can contact him at [email protected]
1305 comments
martymar1
martymar1

Huge Leafs fan here, but I have to admit that Habs are playing good. Been an exciting series.

martymar1
martymar1

There is 0% chance R.C. returns next year. I read in the Star today that Bobcock could be a possibility.

Guest
Guest

Blow up one of the youngest teams in the league ... everyone take a deep breath and relax, we're on the right track. Look at Marlie's success over last few years. We have more prospects than i ever can remember. And yes our NHL team is improving.

deedrag
deedrag

Hey is anyone on that can tell me where the comments section is for AP's new article? It's not showing up. I'd like to at least thank him for the time he took to write it. Oh and thx for the link Alec on " Does Carlyle stay or does he go".

FloorHockeyFlopper
FloorHockeyFlopper

WOW  the beard on that fan when Minn just scored,  talk about hill Billy Gibbons !!!

FloorHockeyFlopper
FloorHockeyFlopper

I liked the Bruins in the 70's  Marcotte Schmatz, Middleton, Cheevers, O'Reilly, Johnathon, Cashman, Park, Milbury.  But I was 10.


I would hate to play the Bruins now, they're a DIRTY DIRTY team, all little stuff all the time stick work, like russians in the 70's.


Screw that, I'm cheering on the one remaining Canadian team.   Sorry guys ... unlike away if you want  :P:P

Cameron19
Cameron19

Oh my God....is TSN actually trying to say that Subban just accidentally took the net off?  My God that's pathetic....

Bruffins
Bruffins

Wild are against Chicago and Suter is hurt, definition of fucked

Komas Taberle
Komas Taberle

Seeing these slimeball Habs leading the Bruins and looking good doing so just makes me more angry that we have a bunch of quitters on our team .

The_Polish_Cannon
The_Polish_Cannon

does anyone know who the refs were tonight? Was Francois St. Laurent one of them?

I didn't see the game but I'm curious because I seen some people talking like Boston was getting all the calls in their favour tonight 

Bruffins
Bruffins

Dany Heatley is so much more fun to watch after reading his parody twitter account...

Bruffins
Bruffins

"must be soooo hard for Crawford having to go long stretches without activity" - Bernier and Reimer

LeafsForLife
LeafsForLife

Bruins will come back and smash the smurfs and their smurfette smug coach. I hate that guy!

Luke_R
Luke_R

People here said Vanek wouldnt be good for the Habs, well, theyre wrong. Wont surprise me to see them in the finals.  Fuck us, right?

mike_84
mike_84

Jays win in the 10th if anyone cares. Thats 3 in a row

loomx
loomx

People must be so angry that they can't blame this on french refs.

Bruffins
Bruffins

I never thought I would get jumped for dissing the Habs on here...

MaxwellHowe
MaxwellHowe

@Cameron19 I don't understand why he would have deliberately done so, since he was about to gain possession of the puck

RandomScrub
RandomScrub

@Bruffins  87% chance to make the playoffs. On a winning streak. Lose the next 8 and don't make it. That is the definition of fucked.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Komas Taberle  They're looking good? I didn't see much of tonight's game, but they were badly out played for the entirety of the previous two games. 

RandomScrub
RandomScrub

@lukethenuke  Could care less. They won't win the cup and then Subban will buttfuck them with his cap hit next season.

LeafsForLife
LeafsForLife

@mike_84 is Jeff Samardzija(sp) from cubs any good? and are the jays trying to get him?

Luke_R
Luke_R

@mike_84  after absolutly botching two lol

SEASON HIGH WIN STREAK!

Cameron19
Cameron19

@MaxwellHowe @Cameron19  Gaining possession doesn't guarantee anything in that situation. Ideally (for him), he would have bumped the net, gained possession, held the puck on the boards, then forced the ref to blow the whistle after Boston took it back - burn the rest of the clock. 

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Should have been a penalty shot. But whatever...

Komas Taberle
Komas Taberle

@Cameron19 @Komas Taberle  

They could easily be up 3-0 right now.Mind you so could Boston, but my point is they finished more than 16 points ahead of us and if they get past Boston they will go to cup final.

I can't stand anything to do with the habs but there playing and we are not because they wanted it more, much more!

Luke_R
Luke_R

@[BBirde] @lukethenuke  they have as much a chance as any... theyve played well this series, who i thought woul be thier biggest test soo

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Komas Taberle @Cameron19  Yea. Or because they have a competent coach who also laid the ground work for the other powerhouse in the East.  Also....Price. Finally, I don't know how anyone can watch them, look at the numbers, and NOT think that the calls have been incredibly favorable for them. They might have been in a 6 or 7 game battle against Tampa if nor for truly horrendous officiating. Tonight, same thing again. Refs to the rescue. 

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But yea, they've definitely come together as a team. Just don't forget that last year they were an embarrassment and got their asses handed to them by the Sens. Things turn around in a hurry. 

Bruffins
Bruffins

@loomx @Bruffins @Belfour20/JB-45  

pretty sure we agree on most things Leafs related. Come a long way since my first message to you was calling you a Leaf hater or something haha

LeafsForLife
LeafsForLife

@Bruffins @Belfour20/JB-45Well they definitely had more testicular fortitude in the short season than they did this past season. Not that much change in personnel either. Biggest difference was no Komarov. But truly, lack of testicles on most nights.

loomx
loomx

@Bruffins @Belfour20/JB-45  "I want a "randy Carlyle team" without a randy carlyle coach"


What I've been trying to argue for over a year summed up in one sentence.

Bruffins
Bruffins

@Belfour20/JB-45 @Bruffins  

I want a "randy Carlyle team" without a randy carlyle coach, that is my stance. Can argue all we want about the players not being tough enough or not committed to defence but it is inexcusable to play Orr and McLaren every game