Toronto Marlies vs Texas Stars: Game 4, Western Conference Finals

Toronto Marlies vs Texas Stars: Game 4, Western Conference Finals

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Photo Credit: Christina Shapiro/Texas Stars

“Attack” and “desperation” were Steve Spott’s buzzwords last night, directed toward the Marlie forward group in particular, after the Marlies fell behind in a series for the first time in these playoffs following a 3-2 defeat to Texas in Game 3.

“Our 12 forwards have not found the level of desperation their 12 forwards have.”

“We don’t have enough forwards onboard right now getting the job done with puck possession and offensive zone time. We need more offensive zone time from our forwards.”

“We cannot turn over pucks in the neutral zone. We have to get pucks deep and hunt people down and we just haven’t done that enough this series.”

The Marlies continue to go out to early leads – ten consecutive after last night’s TJ Brennan goal in the first period – but have not been able to dictate the pace of games in this series, something that will need to change in a crucial Game 4 matchup tonight.

The one line Spott seemed pleased with after the game was the Biggs, Ross and Ryan unit, which he felt showed the desperation and physicality down low he is looking for from his forward group. Some crashing and banging in the corner by Ross and Biggs led to a point blank chance for Kenny Ryan (who was shifted to center) that was somehow turned away by Nilstorp early in the second period with the game tied at 1s.

Spott also blended together a Kid Line of Leivo, Carrick and McKegg seeking a spark up front.

The Marlies have to find their game fast here. A 3-1 hole, obviously, means Texas has three chances to close the series out, and with the AHL playoff format both Games 6 and 7 would be in their home barn.

553 comments
noyon100
noyon100

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reenergized
reenergized

Glad to see the scabs lost ... finally, overachieving whiners!!! I think the lot of them went to diving academy in stead of skating academy ... 


I just want to make a "contrary" comment on all the Randy bashing. First I don't necessarily agree with all of his and the coaching staffs choices , but isn't it possible that RC didn't play the kids, Ashton, D'amigo, etc because they weren't ready? I know most of us believe that  those kids were better than Orr and Mclaren, but what if the coaching staff still didn't think they were good enough yet and decided to shelter them and let them develop further in the A? It's not like he doesn't play the young guys, witness Gardiner, Rielly even Kadri ... RC is not the first coach to limit Kadri's ice time RW did it, Tippet did it at the worlds too. Ashton had a lot of time with the club this year and maybe just maybe what we don't see, the practices etc, didn't fill the staff up with confidence and instead of letting then get clobbered the staff reduced their minutes allowed to the bare minimum. Letting Orr and Maclaren get clobbered wouldn't stunt their development. 


Maybe the staff wanted to let the kids develop more so when they play for the leafs they actually can contribute. The NHL is not really the place to develop players .... just a thought

Savo43
Savo43

Will the Kings buyout Mike Richards? He's playing 4th line for them this playoff -.-

Luke_R
Luke_R

boy do i ever feel relieved, Bring on the draft!!

Savo43
Savo43

So, Nonis was said to be one of the GMs trying to trade for Vanek at the deadline. Does this mean we might sign him? He's friggin sick against the Bruins. I'd love him for that reason alone. Would be nice to stick it to the Habs and Buffalo at the same time as well =D. 

ShiFty_D
ShiFty_D

2 Billion dollars for the Clippers?  Pretty good R.O.I. for that guys 13 million dollar purchase. Wow.

Bruffins
Bruffins

Trade Phaneuf, Kessel and Lupul. Hire Torts. Spott coaches the Marlies to back to back Calder Cups. Then promoted to Leafs HC job and we build around Rielly, Bernier, McDavid, Kadri, Ekblad and Granberg.


Boom, it's so easy!

ShiFty_D
ShiFty_D

Wow, that missing plane is turning out to be quite the clusterfuck.

LeafsForLife
LeafsForLife

@reenergized I am hoping that while McLaren is with the Marlies, he will teach Ashton how to fight. And keep him from trying to break other players fists with his nose. That would be good improvement for Ashton.

peterbleafs
peterbleafs

@Savo43 And who cares if they do?  You want a has been expensive 4th liner on our team and perhaps call him our 1C?  No thank you.

loomx
loomx

@Savo43 Edmonton says yes, Calgary hangs up quickly.

Rhaegar_
Rhaegar_

@Loric76 Tomorrow's front page headlines at Sportsnet:

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Rangers advance to Finals

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Later in the day:

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Leafs hire new Zamboni Driver

vinoa
vinoa

@Loric76 They just won our division and got to the conference finals in the last 2 years. I think they'll be fine with their 27th pick.

Leafs89
Leafs89

Leafs should hire and then quickly fire him.

T K O
T K O

@loomx  I hate Torts as a coach but I will say one thing........... There is a lot of what he preached in the Rangers game now.... that helped them get this far in the playoffs.

ShiFty_D
ShiFty_D

@loomx   How did the Canucks do comparatively on those 2 dates?

Savo43
Savo43

@vinoa @Savo43 Depends. Some believe Reinhart is better. 

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EDIT: Both would be just fine by me.

Savo43
Savo43

@loomx @Savo43 We'd probably have to give CGY Kadri instead of our 8th. I'd consider it though, draft Draisatl and Ehlers/VIrtanen/McCann. 

Bruffins
Bruffins

@Loric76 @vinoa

they played the worst team in the playoffs without their goalie and then played the Bruins who they somehow have matched up perfectly against these last few years.... I am not that impressed with them.

loomx
loomx

@Ricky_Vaives_slapshot @loomx Torts had the same pieces as AV and the latter rolled four lines.


Carlyle had the pieces to fill out 4 lines, just didn't want to play them. In fact, Torts is better at rolling 4 lines than Carlyle.

Savo43
Savo43

@lukethenuke @Savo43 lolol i was quoting a tracy chapman song. Why not though? Cap is going up, we got a young and talented team, with the best fan base in the world. Sounds like good reasons to me. 

loomx
loomx

@Ricky_Vaives_slapshot @loomx Wow. Nice job condemning all young players currently in the conference finals in the AHL. You'd fit right in to the Carlyle clubhouse. Ashton, D'Amigo, Holland, and Smith are all better than Colton Orr and Frazer McLaren. You know, because they actually have hockey skills instead of just boxing skills.

Luke_R
Luke_R

@Savo43 @lukethenuke we were bottom 10 and every team says that.  and trust me, you go to the ACC you would never think that

Savo43
Savo43

@lukethenuke @Savo43 In all seriousness though we just want our team to win. We weren't really a bottom 10 team, we just had a beautiful attempt at tanking for the last 20 games. We aren't nearly as bad as we finished and you should know that. 

Savo43
Savo43

@lukethenuke @Savo43 Nah, the real fans aren't in Toronto, they're everywhere else. Like Vancouver! Go LEAFS GO! 

loomx
loomx

@Ricky_Vaives_slapshot @loomx No. But you're defending Carlyle here. D'Amigo, Ashton and Smith were way better than Orr. Certainly better than rolling 11 forwards. Are they good enough to match up against top 4th lines? maybe not. But why not upgrade when you have the pieces to do so?

loomx
loomx

@Ricky_Vaives_slapshot @loomx I just listed 3 pieces that were there. You're saying Carlyle purposely played worse players and even no players because the upgrades "aren't good enough"? that's ridiculous. Besides, how do you know they aren't good enough? Did Carlyle ever try to play them on the 4th line regularly with over 5 minutes of ice time? Or is it just because Carlyle sent them down that you know they aren't good enough?


Because we all know that Carlyle is the absolute best at evaluating players and putting them in a position to succeed......just ask Lupul in Anaheim or Phaneuf on the left side or Jay McClement playing ridiculous minutes or....

Rhaegar_
Rhaegar_

@Ricky_Vaives_slapshot @Rhaegar_ Yea, but for it to be taken seriously you have to be able to justify it. Saying things like "they aren't good enough" apparently just because you say so, is weak. Even more so when you then contradict yourself by admitting you don't think McLaren and Orr were better options. 

Rhaegar_
Rhaegar_

@Ricky_Vaives_slapshot @Rhaegar_ Yes, but you also said that you didn't think Orr and McLaren were better options - which is the same as admitting that we had better options. Unless you're going to try and seriously argue that Holland, Ashton, D'Amigo and Leivo (among others) aren't all better than McLaren and Orr.


Regardless, the point is - again - that an opinion like that doesn't hold much weight when you can't back it up in any meaningful way. The league is littered with examples of players like the ones we have making a difference for their team, yet you're suggesting the Leafs avoid all examples of such occurrences, ignore the development of our players in the minors, completely disregard AHL accomplishments, and deem all of the worthless. 

Rhaegar_
Rhaegar_

@Ricky_Vaives_slapshot @Rhaegar_ @loomx No, I don't care either way, I just think the fact that you can't support your opinion in any meaningful way is funny. It's like me saying "Crosby is crap", but hey it's my opinion so it has to have weight, right? Well no, because that opinion is laughable and can't be supported in any way whatsoever. 

Rhaegar_
Rhaegar_

@Ricky_Vaives_slapshot @Rhaegar_ Oh no, I understand, I'm just informing you of why your opinion is utter nonsense with no reason for anyone to pay it any credence. Again, support your opinion with something - ANYTHING - and then we can talk about defending Carlyle's roster decisions. Until then....

loomx
loomx

@Ricky_Vaives_slapshot @Rhaegar_ @loomx Leafs need to worry about what your run at the mill playoff team is doing right. You suggest that it's better to not maximize the talent on the team in the meantime and instead play Colton Orr and nobody on the wings?

loomx
loomx

@Ricky_Vaives_slapshot @loomx Then what are you saying? You keep saying that the pieces aren't there but also say that having Orr and no 12th forward is not better than Smith, D'Amigo, Ashton?