(Thursday Mashup) Silly Season

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New Toronto Maple Leafs President Brendan Shanahan, left, looks over at Maple Leafs General Manager Dave Nonis during a news conference in Toronto on Monday, April 14, 2014. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Chris Young

Things That Make No Sense:

  • A team that needs to improve at center moving a good 23-year-old center for a less productive 26-year-old center.
  • Converting a promising young puck-moving defenceman with top-4 ability to the less desirable wing position where he’s never played a pro hockey game.
  • Just about everything Darren Dreger says lately.

‘Tis the season. All that craziness and more in the links below.

Thursday Links:

  • The_Polish_Cannon

    Nonis seems to be saying all the wrong things and leaving me less than optimistic about the team’s future. Then you have Shanny, who seems to be saying all the right things in identifying the issues, but goes ahead and keeps the management team in place and the head coach. There already seems to be a disconnect between president and GM, I give it half a season before Shanny realizes he’s made a massive mistake in evaluating the management team.

  • Great Dane

    CanuckUKinToronto  I read the article – I give up. You can’t run an organisation like this

  • The_Polish_Cannon

    another example of this is Shanahan saying he wants the leafs to shift their draft philosophy to high-end skill, and Nonis later saying skill isn’t a priority.

  • MaxwellHowe

    T.J. Brennan is a guy that should try the wing.  Gardiner wouldn’t work because it would reduce his ability to harness his skating ability.

  • MaxwellHowe

    The_Polish_Cannon  Shanny and Nonis are NOT reading from the same playbook.  Nonis downplays the chance of signing Komarov ( he is negotiating after all) – and Shanny is on TV talking about how much the Leafs need a guy like BOlland

  • Great Dane

    MaxwellHowe The_Polish_Cannon  I know that it is lot to ask for, but I would like them to be on the same page.

    My fear is that Leafs are going to make another big mistake this year setting us even further back.

  • MaxwellHowe

    Interesting and heartening that absolutely no one here is clamoring for the Leafs to sign Bolland.  Unusual consensus for the crowd at MLHS.  The attached article hits all kinds of nails on the head

    http://thehockeywriters.com/just-say-no-to-bolland/

  • The_Polish_Cannon

    Great Dane MaxwellHowe The_Polish_Cannon Yeah I have a feeling Nonis is going to make a terrible move that jeopardizes the team’s future, and will get canned by the end of the season but we’ll be stuck with his mistakes.

  • MaxwellHowe

    The_Polish_Cannon Great Dane MaxwellHowe  I get the feeling he will do nothing – which is probably worse

  • Kouba

    An old dog should be put out of its misery. But no, we are keeping both Nonis and Carlyle. This fact itself is upsetting.

  • The_Polish_Cannon

    MaxwellHowe its a real bummer that Nonis gave up 3 draft picks for 23 games of service from the guy. It’ll be even worse if they resign him long term. 
    So many great players have been drafted in the 2nd round and the Leafs always seem to get rid of their 2nd round picks

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    MaxwellHowe 
    I am – what a surprise – lol
    I want us to resign Bolland. All Im concerned with is the money put on and a guy who earns that money whilst injured. If there was a way of taking his money off the cap for games missed through injury but still pay him so he feels no rush to come back then I would defo sign him up.

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    CanuckUKinToronto 
    Everyone else seems to manage.
    The big problem is a team like Columbus has a manager with a vision. A team like LA can manage the cap system and add a 7m dollar forward into an already championship winning team.
    we have a donkey who is trying to aquire as many 2nd 3rd line forwards in the hope one becomes a 1st liner rather than do the deal. However hes not acquiring these forwards  whilst they are still in junior hockey, he acquiring them when their drafting team has already had a good look at them and decided that one wont be a 1st liner. Ill sell him, Toronto looks a perfect fit, their GM is a dick.
    I know lets acquire the best man at the draft at the time of picking and when we have a good good asset complain we cant move him because there are cap issues you know and then let him walk on a free because Nonis is just too slow.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    #roadhouse ……..I mean #mashup

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    The_Polish_Cannon MaxwellHowe It sucks but nobody would foresee that injury from Kassian (speaking of Kassian if the Canucks draft Ritchie, I call in regards to that animal) and the way Bolland played early in the season was AWESOME.

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    CanuckUKinToronto 
    It seems to me that Nonis hasnt got a plan in place and thats why Shannahan was brought in. One minute you have a feeling with players like Kadri Kessel etc that they are going top line 2nd scoring then fill the next two lines with over payed garbage.
    Then they seem to be overloading with 3rd line over payed crap so you wonder whether they are taking the boston light route. 3 scoring lines of 2nd liners. The problem with those two ways of doing it (Boston way or NYR way) there is no middle ground. You cant have a 4×4 off roading bright red 220mph supercar.You either take the tough route and go all in or you throw it all at top lines and invest in real quality.
    We have seemed to taken both routes and got a Porsche Cayenne. We lose the race and beach ourselves riding a curb.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    MaxwellHowe TJ Brennan should be given a chance on D first.

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    MaxwellHowe The_Polish_Cannon 
    Both scenarios are Maple Leafs scenarios so both deserve a like.
    We have a gutless GM simple as.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    This is what I believe will be our starting centers.  Brace for it…..cause its out on a limb.

    Bozak-Kadri-Bolland-Holland.   Yup, that exciting and fresh.

  • Number44

    TheCanucksnaphook im totally lost with this team

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Number44 Welcome to the club.

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    MaxwellHowe 
    I think it would keep his skating fresh.
    I have been saying for a good 6 months now that Gardiner Riley Phanny (Franson)? (Boyle)? give a chance to Brennan? is too much fekking about with the puck and not clearing the zone. I dont want to lose Gardiner unless we get our socks blown off and think the chance of building a fourth line with skaters but nearly d-men would give us a 4th line that matters. I would boost his minutes by puting him on the top PP unit. This would allow us to train Rielly up without having too many inexperienced guys at the back. Trade for a Boyle to eat minutes and train Gardiner on the PP and still leave room to add a stay at home vet.

  • Number44

    TheCanucksnaphook Number44 I know everyone wants phaunef to be moved but theres no chance he goes its either kadri Jvr or Gardiner its actually so said

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Number44 TheCanucksnaphook Very sad.  but IMO there is ZERO need to trade JVR.  His contract and what he brings to the team are PERFECT.

    Kadri, I really like and to me Gards is the only one of the three you even contemplate trading (for the record he should be staying).

    The guys I try to move are Dion, Lupul, Clarkson.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Just re-reading the Mike Richards and Jeff Carter trade from Philly to LA.  They needed cap space to sign Bryz and those two were seen as expendable.  Two Cups later in LA.

  • Number44

    TheCanucksnaphook Number44 UNTOUCHABLE was kessel bozak rielly bernier at one point in a report which scared me

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    TheCanucksnaphook 
    3rd liner, 2nd liner at best, 3rd liner, 2nd liner at best
    yay we’ve gone the Boston way but f-ked it up – lol
    I reckon it will be worse.
    I reckon it will be Kadri – Bolland – Bozak – McClement
    Holland will be sent down. Kadri our saviour will be drummed up as this is his year and weve developed him and hes ready for this role.
    20 games in with Kadri with 5 goals an 7 assists we revert to
    Bozak – Kadri – Bolland – McClement
    Bolland will get injured and we call up our new saviour
    Bozak – Kadri – McClement – Holland

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Number44 TheCanucksnaphook I understand Kessel, Rielly, Bernier…..Bozak must have pictures of Nony and Claudy.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs TheCanucksnaphook The Leafs KNOW what they have in Holland.  HE doesnt belong in the AHL for a second longer.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    CanuckUKinToronto TheCanucksnaphook Well you have replacements on the farm, just not really good ones.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Something goes down today in Leafs Land…..too much silence.

  • Number44

    TheCanucksnaphook Number44 I honestly feel they should keep there 8th pick and leave bolland alone and add a top end rw behind kessel there secondary scoring sucked last year with clarkson raymond and kuleum switching all the time

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    TheCanucksnaphook Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs 
    You know that, we know that, the f-king world knows that.
    Thats why I think it will happen as I put it.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Number44 TheCanucksnaphook There are so many options in this draft.  Makes me feel like the mad scientist with all of the different line combinations you could come up with for the future.
    Hell even next year with Ekblad and Ritchie.

  • Number44

    TheCanucksnaphook Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs Holland is a top 9 pushing top 6

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    CanuckUKinToronto This is option Bravo.

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    Number44 
    I agree – please refer to the answer I gave the right honourable gentleman moments earlier.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    and to think we wouldnt trade Kaberle for Carter.

    This is what I am feeling when I hear “dont trade Dion for…..”

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Number44 TheCanucksnaphook Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs W/O question

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Number44 TheCanucksnaphook Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs W/O question

  • Number44

    TheCanucksnaphook Number44 Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs thats why bolland doesnt need to return

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    CanuckUKinToronto TheCanucksnaphook Sure they have a plan, and I get that they dont want to discuss things.  But Shanny is supposed to be the face of this hockey team.  A fan base that is rabid 12 months of the year.  How about popping in a few times per month in the summer with some bullshit quotes.  This is NOT THAT HARD.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Number44 TheCanucksnaphook Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs Correct.  He is an unknown at this point.  Who knows how he will respond to injury and his contract demands will be too high.
    Walk away if it goes north of 4.5 x 4 years.

  • Number44

    TheCanucksnaphook Number44 Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs yeah and 4.5 is still pricey

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    CanuckUKinToronto Cannot tell you how much I shake my head at this management team.  I am a simple civil servant, but the mistakes they made during the year are that of an intern.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Number44 TheCanucksnaphook Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs Best thing that can happen is he asks for too much and we all just part ways.

  • Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs

    CanuckUKinToronto Zeus_WilliamMapleLeafs 
    Yeah but its not the d’s fault we have conceded more goals than any other NHL team (or certainly the second worst) in the past 10 years. Its the goal tender. 
    Still with Berniers solid play and decent save % we saw last year that our goals against figure was very respectable …….
    ……hang on that cant be right?

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    CanuckUKinToronto TheCanucksnaphook Fuckin McClement.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    ok off to get ready for golf.  Three pros and then this guy.
    Just gotta try not to get dusted too badly.

    Tweet me with updates !!

  • Number44

    If i was nonis id make a package for skinner or e.kane to help out the secondary scoring with kadri and lupul and id make a package around franson and other pieces to do it try to keep my first round pick and have holland play the 3rd line C and add a depth forward with some marlies to fill the 3rd and 4th lines as for the backend id try free agency but i think its the system aswell