Friday Mashup: As the smoke clears for the Toronto Maple Leafs

Friday Mashup: As the smoke clears for the Toronto Maple Leafs

PHILADELPHIA, PA - JUNE 27: Head Coach Randy Carlyle (L) and Brendan Shanahan (R), President of the Toronto Maple Leafs speak to Trevor Linden, President of Hockey Operations for the Vancouver Canucks (C) prior to the first round of the 2014 NHL Draft at the Wells Fargo Center on June 27, 2014 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

A pretty wild week since the draft last Friday.

A recap of MLHS posts from the draft until now, in case you missed the action:

NHL News and NHL Rumours

1523 comments
Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat

Franson for Kassian? Where do I sign?

WendelGilmour
WendelGilmour

Anyone seen a list of who will be at prospect camp next week?

Cameron19
Cameron19

Was Clarke MacArthur the last player to actually go to arbitration?  That was 4 seasons ago. I can't think of anyone since, although I'm sure there was 1 or 2.

RandomScrub
RandomScrub

Please go to arbitration. Please award him an assload for 1 year and then please tell me he leaves the Toilet Seats next year.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

@NYP_Brooksie: Brassard, Zuccarello, Kreider have filed for salary arbitration though all will continue to negotiate for long term deals. #NYR

Cameron19
Cameron19

@TheCanucksnaphook  I heard there were two trades on the table:

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Bozak, Franson and a 1st to COL for O'Reilly

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And

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Lupul, Reimer, Percy to CAR for J.Staal and Cam Ward (CAR eats 2M on Ward's deal)


leafmealone
leafmealone

@RandomScrub The only possible scenario I could see being any worse is if he left Mtl. to go join his brother with the Bruins. Who knows, I hate both teams so much I'm not sure which would actually be worse. But picturing him sharing the ice with Lucic and Marchand would just be douchebag overload for me.

leafmealone
leafmealone

@4evrblue Hmmm, so potential double whammy for the Habs. If it goes all the way to an award, he can opt for a contract which takes him to UFA status, PLUS he'll still get a massive payday anyways. Not only that, but there'll be the increased animosity of his first hold out then this arbitration process between them when he does make it to UFA. 

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Once he files he's no longer eligible for an offer sheet.

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Xxxxxnew thats real bad news for them, they are tight with cap space

Cameron19
Cameron19

@TheCanucksnaphook @Cameron19 Franson is unique in that he didn't file for arbitration - basically the only RFA in his position ever. He thought he would be able to work out a deal with the Leafs, but once he decided not to file, they knew they had him, and the only bargaining tool he had was holding out. He's made to look like the bad guy a lot, but it wasn't really like that.

JWaterdrager
JWaterdrager

Once a hold out, once signed before arbitration iirc

leafmealone
leafmealone

@Xxxxxnew Don't think this is true anymore. There IS a window in which he can't be offersheeted, but it's only a window during the process, it doesn't cover the entire period up to his award. It was covered when O'Rielly was taken to arb by the Avs.


Personally, I'd rather he not be offersheeted as Mtl will instantly match it and they get to avoid the bad blood of the arb process while retaining the player. Not to mention that the term of any offer sheet likely works in their favour as well.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

A lot of times it just speeds up the negotiation process and deals get done before arbitration.

Jordan29
Jordan29

@TheCanucksnaphook @Jordan29 man you have to drive down to eastern passage, thats where i live, right off the ocean. Awesome place. Maybe 10 mins from the golf course 

leafmealone
leafmealone

@Cameron19 @Jordan29 @Xxxxxnew *cough* Shea Weber *cough* Not that I don't agree. But most of the players going to arbitration are tweeners who are hoping for a little more money than they're being offered by teams looking to squeeze some savings out of their lesser lights. So they have little leverage and eventually sign a deal to avoid the nastiness of arbitration. 

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

I think fans also overestimate the any animosity that's involved.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@leafmealone @Cameron19 @Jordan29 @Xxxxxnew Pretty much all RFAs file for arbitration though. And in regards to your comment about players who have gone through it - the list is extremely short. Almost no one ever actually hits arbitration.

leafmealone
leafmealone

@Xxxxxnew From everything that has been said by players who've gone through it, I would disagree.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Xxxxxnew It seems like everyone thinks that filing means the two sides hate each other or something. It's just a formality.

Rthiffault
Rthiffault

@TheCanucksnaphook @Jordan29 just checked myself. yeah I wouldn't be hurt by it at all. Helps push more towards the "Dont mess with us" mantra we're trying to create.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Everyone has matched in the past 18 years except the time Burke let Penner go.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

You get some bitchiness once in a while but it's mainly a tool to speed things up once negotiations big down.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@TheCanucksnaphook @Cameron19 Yea, but Franson has been underpaid pretty much every year of his career (compared to his peers) except for maybe this past season - which was arguably due to injury. It's not like he's been raking it in. Rostislav Olesz brought home more money playing in the AHL than Franson has in his career.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@zakimak @Cameron19 @leafmealone @Jordan29 @Xxxxxnew I think if it's actually going to arbitration they will trade him. They've decided that Duchene is the upper limit of their team at 6M, and there's a chance O'Reilly is awarded his qualifying offer in arbitration, which is 6.5M. Think they may just move on.

JR from Halifax
JR from Halifax

Can't handle the broad spectrum that is maritime weather

JR from Halifax
JR from Halifax

Been called lots of things......that was never one of them

JR from Halifax
JR from Halifax

Somehow I doubt you were called that before either. When is your tee time tomorrow?

JR from Halifax
JR from Halifax

Well good luck, won't be as humid tomorrow as Thursday and Friday was. You head back home right after?

JR from Halifax
JR from Halifax

Another time, make sure you do Cabot links next time. Thus time next yr they will open their second course which is apparently going to be head and shoulders above what they have now.

DJGLENN22
DJGLENN22

@TheCanucksnaphook @JR from Halifax .........Hey Phook you never been to Cape Breton Island before.....well I will tell ya buddy you will love it friendly as hell.......born and raised in Sydney Cape Breton most of my life.Moved to Ontario almost 12 years now because the wife hated the winters back home..If you ever get the chance do the Cabot Trail lots of places to camp and visit....I am telling ya you will love it.