Sunday Mashup: Leafs News and Notes

Sunday Mashup: Leafs News and Notes

Today, Steve Simmons had a few interesting Leafs tidbits in his Sunday column.

“Don’t expect anything sexy when the Leafs announce their coaching staff shortly. In fact don’t be surprised if the Leafs two new assistant coaches aren’t internal promotions.”

If I was Steve Spott, I would rather be head coach of the Marlies than assistant coach of the Leafs under Carlyle, but I’m not Steve Spott. That said, Gord Dineen and Derek King have been rumoured to be in the assistant coach mix from the beginning. It wouldn’t be surprising if they were promoted. The Marlies have run an excellent and successful program for years, so they could do a lot worse.

I still wonder if anything will become of the Tony Granato meetings. Pittsburgh has generally had a very good penalty kill under him so that would make some sense, too.

“When the Leafs traded Frattin to Los Angeles in the deal for Jonathan Bernier, they honestly believed they were trading away a 20-goal scorer. That’s why they’ve brought him back. They probably don’t think that highly anymore, but they see something in Frattin others don’t.”

In the 2013 season, Frattin and Kadri played some great hockey together, and playing them on the same line was always their plan then. From the Star in 2013:

It’s not that much of a surprise. Kadri is a natural playmaker, Frattin a scorer. The organization recognized as much and the two played together during the lockout with the AHL Marlies.
‘That was the plan we had,’ coach Randy Carlyle said Wednesday. ‘They had success in the American Hockey League, so you might as well try and put them together.’


I can’t seem to find the link, but I also remember James Mirtle writing about how members of the organization viewed Kadri-Frattin as a second line combo of the future. When he went to LA, the second line spot alongside Richards and Carter was “his to lose” according to Sutter.

He struggled in LA and they traded him, but they didn’t exactly banish him from the team; they moved him in a deal to bring in Marian Gaborik.

I guess we’ll see what happens with Frattin ultimately, but the Leafs seem to feel he can be a goal scorer, and so did Los Angeles to start last year. A lot of people can see the potential in Frattin (and it’s easy to since he’s fast, has a great shot, is physical, has low center of gravity and can be a bowling ball), but it’s up to him to put it together. Maybe he will playing alongside a familiar face and someone he has had success with before.

A few other sporadic thoughts:

  • I knew it would become a story that Gorges didn’t waive to come to Toronto, but boy is it getting blown out of proportion. Sorry, but waiving to go to Buffalo instead of Toronto says a lot more about Gorges’ intelligence than anything about the state of the Leafs. The Leafs might not be a great team, but Buffalo is terrible. They don’t have one player even close to the calibre of Kessel or JVR, and comparing their two goalies (Neuvirth and Enroth) to the Leafs two (Bernier and Reimer) is laughable at best. They are paying some big bucks to guys like Myers and Meszaros to play defense. Even if you don’t like Phaneuf, he’s miles ahead of those guys, to say nothing of Gardiner and Rielly (and, yes, I know Buffalo has drafted a few D-men in the first round of late, but you’d be hard pressed to convince me any of them are more promising than Rielly). Whatever vendetta Gorges has against the Leafs, so be it. Picking Buffalo over Toronto says almost nothing about the Leafs and pretty well everything about him.
  • The talk about the hometown Bolland leaving Toronto for Florida is even worse. The contract the Panthers gave him was easily one of the worst in free agency not just this year, but in the last few free agency periods.
  • Hard to imagine Franson returning with everyone in the league knowing they agreed to move him to Montreal. Stranger and more awkward things have happened, but you have to figure he is still on the block and eventually going to move.

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Alabama Maple Leaf
Alabama Maple Leaf

Am I the only one who thinks we should have kept Drew Macintyre?  He signs for 600K in Carolina........carried the Marlies for two years........made spectacular save after spectacular saves........and I believe would have provided ample backup to Bernier while freeing up both money and Marlie spots for younger goalies we have....

Yan28
Yan28

I would bring in Bryzgalov out of all who is available. He played pretty well for Minnesota in the playoffs. He is not a downgrade on Reimer at all.

BonnyHunter
BonnyHunter

Petrielli: I'm a bit astounded at your article. If I'm Gorges I want not to play for the Leafs when Buffalo offres me 1) Nolan over Carlyle 2) Single person ownership versus the circus of public companies and people who own MLSE 3) A team aggressive at all times to improve. If Gorges is the supposed idiot you make him out to be then why did Moulsen return? Gionta move happily? Frankly I think Buffalo will makes the playoffs and the Leafs won't, which irritates no end as I have been a Leaf fan for 41 years. I must as a player like the lower cost of living in Buffalo. Less border crossing as 23 of the teams in the 30 team league are American so way less travel time and more time to recoup. As a D-man do I want to play on a team which values Phaneuf so highly? Toronto is riddled with problems and Buffalo is starting over.


As for Bolland's contract it doesn't come close to the moronic amounts paid Phaneuf and Clarkson. Together they tally 12.25M dollars. Hmmm, that amounts to 17.8% of the total cap space. Do they contribute their share of the money doled out to them. Not a fat chance. Without them Toronto isn't much worse, and without them Toronto would weild an almighty 25 million in free cap space. That would address through trades a number one centre, a top two d man and leave room to fairly treat Gardiner etc.


Buffalo has tons of draft picks to play with. Toronto has...um...I dunno. A wing and a prayer?

Bruffins
Bruffins

Did you guys see the tweet about Nylander???

Jmessih
Jmessih

All hail Mats Wayne Nylander!!

Jmessih
Jmessih

Does anyone have videos, or updates or anything from the prospects camp? Or even tweets from those who watched it? 

Bruffins
Bruffins

I just read a comment on another site from a guy that says he was at the prospect camp today. He said Nylander stood out and everyone noticed him.


Yes, this means we can confirm that he is the Swedish Gretzky (only faster)

mike_84
mike_84

we really need some leafs news

The_Polish_Cannon
The_Polish_Cannon

what's going on?! How many hat tricks did Nylander get in scrimmage today?!

NotSince67
NotSince67

@Alabama Maple Leaf Bibeau graduates to Pro this year unless he returns to the QMJHL as an O/A player so that keaves 3 goalies (Spark, Gibson, Bibeau) in the minors. Gibson didn't get much time with the Marlies despite showing well (and drawing high praise from JML) and played most of the season in the ECHL. I think the Leafs are looking to platoon Sparks and Gibson barring a push from Bibeau in order to let the two develop. 

Anthony Petrielli
Anthony Petrielli moderator

@BonnyHunter Either you are from BUF, or have never been. 


Gionta and Moulson signed there for a pretty simple reason- the Sabres gave them contracts nobody else in the league would even think of. 


I don't think the Leafs will make the playoffs, but I'll gladly bet you that Buffalo wont. 

BoneChompski
BoneChompski

@l81lKessel81l Media is not invited for the first couple days.  Forget if it was the 9th or 10th that I read they will have access.  Gotta give the kids a couple days to get grounded before the city tears them to pieces.

Bruffins
Bruffins

@Jmessih

that last question there sums up how fucking crazy all of us are 

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

I keep yelling at Kaberle to shoot

Luke_R
Luke_R

@Bruffins wow whered this dynamic Phaneuf go?  Must be wearing out already

NotSince67
NotSince67

@Anthony Petrielli @BonnyHunter The real thing here as a note from capgeek is " trade may have voided clause."

 I am doubtful Buffalo is seriously doing anything but amassing band-aids to get through the season, and Gorges figures he'll be playing playoff hockey in 2015 as he's likely to be dealt at the deadline.

Furthermore Gorges is a fan favourite in Montreal, and I don't doubt for a second he understands that makes him a traitor to waive to come Toronto, much like MacArthur understood the way to twist the dagger with a smile was not just to succeed, but to do it in Ottawa.

Jmessih
Jmessih

@Bruffins @Jmessih I meant reporters or credible bloggers like that Wheller guy from earlier today lol

But yes I get your point lol 

BoneChompski
BoneChompski

@l81lKessel81l @BoneChompski From the team website:


Members of the media will be permitted to attend camp on Wednesday, July 9 beginning with practice at 10 am. All players will be available to the media at 3 pm on Wednesday outside of the Maple Leafs dressing room at MasterCard Centre.

Bruffins
Bruffins

@Jmessih @Bruffins

haha I'm so desperate to know something... even if it is a single tweet saying Nylander looked good out there or something

Bruffins
Bruffins

@lukethenuke @Bruffins

seeing the Kaberle-McCabe PP combo makes me want Dion on the right side with Rielly feeding him one-timers all day

DJBrianBurke
DJBrianBurke

@Bruffins @DJBrianBurke @lukethenuke That I do. She loved Mats. I also love Gilmour. Would have been double meaning for me for Doug and David (Pink Floyd). I'm very happy with Mats though, so I can't complain!