Maple Leafs’ Assistant Coach announcement to come next week

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According to Steve Simmons, it looks like some combination of Steve Spott, Gord Dineen and Derek King is going to be among the Leafs‘ upcoming assistant coach hires — or perhaps more accurately, internal promotions — with an announcement expected next week.

It would not be the most outwardly hope-inspiring of moves if there’s no fresh voice/outside perspective being brought in to challenge Randy Carlyle’s way of thinking.

There is also no denying the success of the Marlies the past few seasons. Steve Spott seemed aware of the obvious value in rolling four lines last year, and is ostensibly off to a good start from the player development perspective given there wasn’t a shortage of positive developments on the farm in 2013-14. While we’ll have to see what becomes of some of these Marlies in terms of NHL futures, he’s done about as good of a job as one could have expected in year one on the job.

The Marlies were overwhelmed by a superior – one of the best AHL teams in recent history – in the Texas Stars in the Western Conference Finals, and Drew MacIntyre was the only thing holding them in that series, but getting routinely outshot and leaning on goaltending was less of an issue for the Marlies than it was the Leafs last season.

The 5 on 5 systems between the Leafs and Marlies are quite similar, but it just seemed to work better for the Marlies given their personnel makeup. The Marlies found more success in their north-south game than the Leafs ever did last season, and prided themselves on getting pucks in deep and going to work — there seemed to be full buy in with Spott and the Marlies system seemed to mesh with the personnel.

That wasn’t the case for the Leafs, clearly.  Part of that, from the perspective of the defensive zone systems, is that the Marlies’ blueline was a very good AHL blueline, whereas the Maple Leafs’ blueline wasn’t a good NHL blueline. The Leafs were arguably short two top-3 defenders while the Marlies had a deep group of capable D headlined by the AHL’s equivalent of the Norris Trophy winner in TJ Brennan. While the Leafs were running a system in their own zone that seemed to exacerbate a sore spot, the Marlies got along OK.

It seems unlikely Spott and/or King or Dineen come into the fold and work with Carlyle to overhaul the systems altogether, but if we’re being precise that seemed like an unlikely result the moment Randy Carlyle stayed on as head coach. Brendan Shanahan paid some lip service to the possibility of the “system not being a match” when he did his first round of interviews as Leafs President, so at this point it’s a case of wait and see.

Interestingly, if Kevin (not Gord) Dineen is still in the mix — Team Canada women’s coach, former Panthers head coach coach, worked with Randy Carlyle in Anaheim – perhaps he would bring some fresh perspective as well as a coach with some HC experience should Carlyle be fired during the season. There was an under the radar interview with Dineen on TSN1050 in which Dineen said of the Leafs and their collapse:

[pull_quote_center]I go back to my time, I worked with Randy in Anaheim, I was coaching Portland, while he was at head coach in Anaheim for the Ducks. And we always tried to mimic or mirror with the Ducks were doing is a system.. You know, sometimes it would be playing a defensive style, and I was like: “you have Pronger, and Niedermayer, and Beauchemin holding the fort.” You can sit there and you can do that. Sometimes it’s based on personnel. And my feelings that you work with what you have.

So, I’m not avoiding the question; when I think of Toronto, I think of high-end skilled, offensive forwards, I don’t look at them as a strong — I don’t think about them about their defense. Other than If I was coaching against them, I think that’s an area I would try and exploit.[/pull_quote_center]

This idea that Randy’s system began to fail the Ducks once they lost their Hall of Fame blueliners is something that’s been shown in the numbers. There seems to be some awareness on the part of Dineen, Anaheim’s AHL coach at the time, that maybe this doesn’t work in different circumstances.

We’ll see how this plays out next week. Steve Spott is still a relatively new voice in this organization and wouldn’t exactly be a retread, but there is the obvious concern that the Maple Leafs still haven’t changed much at all – given the talk of the ambiguous culture change, there hasn’t been a major shakeup at the player, management, or (given Carlyle is still here)  coaching levels, especially if the assistant coaches just end up being hires from within.

 

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  • ChazzMichaels

    Just cause as soon as I posted a new thread popped up … REPOST 

    Don’t know if many of you have knowledge on next years draft, but ill quickly sum it for ya’all a bit for some summer chat … 
    Soooo let’s take a looksie here ….

    -You got McDavid and Eichel who are known to be borderline generational talent 

    -Barzal, Konecny, and many other CHL players who would be sure fire top of the class picks every other year

    -Hanifin who thought to be as good as Seth Jones or better 
    -Kylington, a d-man who played in the SEL as a 16 year old and is the youngest SEL scorer of all time 
    -6’3 Zacha, could be the best Czech prospect is decades, already with a World Jr and Pro hockey under his belt
    -Not to mention countless American forwards that can make up an insane American 1st round 
    This draft is unbelievable….

  • charlieb83

    ChazzMichaels Buffalo will draft McDavid and Eichel with their pick and the Isle’s pick. Lucky bastards. They’ll be a dynasty soon.

  • The_Polish_Cannon

    ChazzMichaels I read a while ago that next years draft could be on par with, or better than, the 2003 draft

  • daniel marois

    I feel that the best thing is to have the two Marlies assistants get promoted to Randy.  Then if the team falters early on, hang on to Randy till the end of the season so you can stay in the McDavid/Eichel race (or top-10 pick territory).  

    Then fire Randy after the season and promote Steve Spott to head coach as he will have a much better handle on the current Marlies on the Leafs roster and the potential Marlies who will be part of the Leafs in ’15-16 season.

    I know this is not the plan from Management, but I hope this is how it plays out….

  • The_Polish_Cannon

    Bringing Spott in as an assistant would be a good move. It’ll make his inevitable transition to HC that much smoother.

  • daniel marois

    The_Polish_Cannon

    I like the idea of keeping Spott as head coach with Marlies as he is the best coach right now to develop those young players.  He will be the best replacement when the time comes to fire Carlyle.

  • ChazzMichaels

    The_Polish_Cannon ChazzMichaels
    I don’t think people realize just how insane this draft is, take out Mcdavid and Eichel and you still have an above average crazy draft.

  • The_Polish_Cannon

    daniel marois The_Polish_Cannon Yeah I felt the same way to originally. But I thought about it after reading this article, and he’s made a good relationship with the marlies players already, if he gets a role as an AC he’ll be able to get familiar with the roster players on with the Leafs now. I figure Carlyle will get fired half way through the season and sport should be able to take over with a good handle on the prospects and the Leafs

  • daniel marois

    The_Polish_Cannon daniel marois

    Well…being selfish…I don’t want Spott taking over halfway thru the season and taking the Leafs out of a lottery pick if that is where they are when the decision to fire Carlyle comes along.  

    I think it is better to bring Spott in the off-season next spring and let him start fresh instead of halfway thru the season.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    LOOOOOOV.

  • RandomScrub

    TheCanucksnaphook You would. But I shall ignore it.

  • Bruffins

    RandomScrub TheCanucksnaphook
    LOOOOOOOV

  • RandomScrub

    Bruffins RandomScrub TheCanucksnaphook Shit attempt at trying to be funny son.

  • Bruffins

    RandomScrub Bruffins TheCanucksnaphook
    thanks for the expert analysis on this “not being funny” subject

  • skiingallday

    TheCanucksnaphook LUUUUUUUUUUVVVVVV

  • RandomScrub

    Bruffins RandomScrub TheCanucksnaphook Anytime. I’ll be here all week.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    skiingallday TheCanucksnaphook You guys have no idea how to pronounce names using Phook-onics.

  • MaxwellHowe

    Seriously?  Back with that obnoxious picture of Randy Carlyle?  I hope Nonis does something stupid right now just to inspire another less rage inspiring thread

  • skiingallday

    TheCanucksnaphook skiingallday LOUUUUUUUU…. shit, wait, he doesn’t play here.

  • Bruffins

    MaxwellHowe
    I just picture him saying “sorry Holland, Orr and McLaren are making the team first”

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    I dont like Spott coming up to the Leafs. The media will use this as cannon fodder (is that the right term?) and ask Carlyle every two second how they are getting along etc.  

    Not a good idea with a lame duck coach.

  • RandomScrub

    MaxwellHowe Is this better?

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    skiingallday Baby steps.  First the player, then the cheer.

  • MaxwellHowe

    So Phook gets deleted for the Euro slur but we have to endure this?

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    MaxwellHowe Slur….haha.

  • skiingallday

    This made me lol

  • Bruffins

    TheCanucksnaphook
    Spott should stay with the Marlies so they can keep developing/experience success. He can be promoted the year after to coach McDavid and the Leafs

  • RandomScrub

    skiingallday I though you were yak considering he posts this every other thread.

  • MaxwellHowe

    Bob Cole will tell us how to say it.  Newfs are great at pronouncing unfamiliar terms.

  • skiingallday

    RandomScrub skiingallday lol I had never seen it before

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    MaxwellHowe God damn, I love Robert Cole

  • skiingallday

    MaxwellHowe “GUSTAVUNNARSON” – Joe Bowen

  • MaxwellHowe

    It really really disturbed me.  really Phook, you might as well have thrown on a big ole white sheet with a pointy hood

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    MaxwellHowe Haha.  I apologize….my racism runs rampant.

  • BrandonCheema

    Bruffins TheCanucksnaphook one year with the marlies and then after carlyle gets fired bring up spott and offer babcock a ten year deal

  • loomx

    Bruffins TheCanucksnaphook Not to mention that it would be nice to have Spott coach Nylander for one year.

  • MaxwellHowe

    ..on the down low….probably 95% of us are “euros”,  strictly speaking…..shussssshhh

  • RandomScrub

    skiingallday MaxwellHowe JAMES VAN KESSEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    MaxwellHowe I know I am….but dont let facts get in the way of pretending I am some sort of hate filled monster !!

  • Bobsyouruncle

    Apparently the author of this piece has not been listening to Fenton. If he had he would have known that Carlyle having 2 Hall of Fame defencemen in Anaheim was nothing out of the ordinary.

  • Bruffins

    loomx Bruffins TheCanucksnaphook
    Exactly, I think he can do more good as the head coach there than as an assistant coach with the Leafs.

  • leafmealone

    I see Sobotka is jumping ship to the KHL after a lowball salary offer from the Blues. And it looks like this won’t be changing as St. Louis has already (re)signed Ott to shore up the C position.

    I wonder if there is any way that the Leafs could trade for his rights? He’s a great driver of possession, perfect age to fit into the growing young core of talent, and plays the position that the team is most desperate to improve.

  • wendelsway1

    TheCanucksnaphook I like Spott with the Marlies, for now.  Good development coach that was well liked by players and seemed to get the most out of them.  Hopefully his time will come with the Leafs….just not this upcoming season.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Bruffins 100 %.  Who is meeting me at the Ricoh for all of the home games this year?

  • MaxwellHowe

    Carlyle elevated those guys to HOF material.  Its true.

  • leafmealone

    Bobsyouruncle I know right, cause the HHOF lets in like, what, 20-30 players a year?

  • Bruffins

    TheCanucksnaphook Bruffins
    depending on where I am living, I would 100% be down though. So pumped to watch them this year…. Adding Finn, Brown, Nylander, Nilsson, Granberg looking to be staying.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Bruffins TheCanucksnaphook Shit, sorry that wasnt meant for you.

  • Bruffins

    TheCanucksnaphook Bruffins
    well played

  • leafmealone

    TheCanucksnaphook Bruffins Penthouse?