Morning Mashup: COMPLY!

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It’s been awhile. How do these work again?

Seriously. Despite Tweeting up a storm during the playoffs, I haven’t written anything since January. Call it a combination of hell the lockout sucking the passion out of me and Burke’s firing amounting to a platinum-knuckled gut punch at the time. But new posts are coming, and I need your help!

(Not really. But it will be a lot easier and quicker if I crowd source opinions and call it research!)

Sometime soon, I want to go in-depth on compliance buyouts options for the Leafs. Because, y’know, we haven’t talked about those nearly enough. Or yesterday. If you can (and even though you probably already have, at length), please sound off in the comments below with one (or a combination) of the following options:

A) Who you would use the Leafs’ compliance buyouts on this summer? This question is stupid. We know who the targets will be.

B) Would you use one, or both?

C) Would you use neither of them? If so, why?

D) What are some intriguing massive contract targets in other organizations that we should try and obtain solely to buy out, if the deal includes the acquisition of a prime asset alongside them?

E) “Screw off, Matt. We’ve talked about this enough.”

F) E + “We literally spent all day talking about this under yesterday’s post. You’re just trying to get us to organize it for you.”

G) E + F + “Ugh, fine.”

I promise, if we get enough of “E” or “F”, I’ll actually not write it. Because that’s democracy, and I respect the process.

Morning Links!

Interesting points in Tuesday’s TSN Insider Trading about Letang’s future in Pittsburgh. I can’t, personally, imagine there not being one.

-Hossa will likely play tonight. That’s good news, for those of us who want to see the Bruins…oh, I don’t know. Fail?

-Ben Scrivens will march in Toronto’s Pride Parade on June 30, because no matter what you think of that weird way he holds his glove, he’s an awesome guy.

-Jonathan Bernier on the Maple Leafs makes no sen…ah, damn. Cam Charron @ TLN beat me to that headline, and even explained why in detail.

-Cam also chimes in with a post on why David Clarkson is probably not worth the money someone will pay him. So I’m not the only one seeing (albeit undeniably better) shades of Colby Armstrong here?

-The Kings extended Slava Voynov for six years and $25 million yesterday. Someone on Twitter suggested that sets a dangerous precedent for Cody Franson’s upcoming negotiations. I think Cody Franson’s play sets a dangerous precedent for Cody Franson’s upcoming negotiations.

 

  • Optimustic

    Good morning and thanks for the questions Matt.  I’d trade for both compliance buyouts if the return is worth it.  The only bad contract we have left is Komi’s IMHO, and it’s only for this season.  I’m not wanting to help out another team just to be a good guy though, I want a sure thing coming back that’s still young. 
      If Gillis wants us to take Lou’s contract he’ll have to pay double, … just because.   It’s time some other Canadian team takes some of the spot light on bad deals If it were the Leafs we’d be hearing about from a different perspective.

  • HeatherRickAkin

    My question on compliance buyouts is this : is the talk largely a result of media and fan hype, or will there indeed be some earth moving deals, such as the Tampa and Long Island situations ? And if so, are the moneylaiden Leafs going to reap the benefits? With a lot of  “ifs” needing to fall in place, I suppose we shouldn’t get our hopes up too high . With the Leafs seeming to be on the cusp of being a very decent team, and only needing a couple or three smart moves to be there, its an exciting time. Hope this whole thing isn’t a mirage and Nonis is allowed to spend and spend and spend.

    • Burtonboy

      HeatherRickAkin I was just as skeptical as you Rick until Loiselle said in an interview they have actually discussed these types of deals. I’m still far from sold any team will do this yet but the fact they have talked about this is enough to take it our of the realm of fantasy and into the world of these’s a possibility .

      • Burtonboy

        canuckintheuk Burtonboy HeatherRickAkin Like I said I’m not convinced any of these deals will happen yet .

      • Burtonboy

        canuckintheuk Burtonboy HeatherRickAkin Yep I can see that . But like I’ve said all along with this stuff it had better be worth it. For 25 mil I want a player not some maybe

      • MaxwellHowe

        canuckintheuk Burtonboy HeatherRickAkin There may be other well-tto-do teams that would trade for a compliance buy-out.  Red Wings. Flames. Blackhawks. Bruins could afford it.  I don’t think the Leafs would be the only team fishing for a deal like this.

    • Zep2

      HeatherRickAkin The Leafs have the cash,  the motivation and a knew boss (Leiweke) to make   a Depietro or Lecavallier type deal.
      The question is , do they they have willing trade partners

    • Knights2Leafs

      HeatherRickAkin 
      I don’t think this is an issue of whether or not the Leafs are willing to spend…. they will if the right parts come back.  Some of these teams have to get rid of these contracts because of the back end cap restrictions and economically it makes sense in the long run to get rid of them.  The problem is it’s almost like they’re in denial.  They have to get over the inertia of doing the deal and the time frames are so tight for this year at least that it might come right down to the wire.  
      Yes, we should do a cap trade if the deal is right but we don’t need to.  Yes, these other teams need to do a cap trade and the difference is they really should for the long term interests of their teams.

  • Burtonboy

    Thanks for the mashup Jon. Got a feeling traffic is gonna be heavy on this site over the next month or so . Hope your up to the task lol

  • Burtonboy

    Thanks for the mashup Jon. Got a feeling traffic is gonna be heavy on this site over the next month or so . Hope your up to the task lol

  • Burtonboy

    Might as well throw up the link about Colorado not taking Jones with the 1st pick 

    http://www.tsn.ca/Toronto/

    • Burtonboy

      canuckintheuk Burtonboy Yeah its definetly not something you see done very often . I can’t remember any GM coming out with a statement like that prior to the draft . Either he’s dammed smart orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol

      • mcloki

        Stimulate a trade. Colorado could do very well for themselves and pick up players and prospects.

      • Burtonboy

        mcloki Might be that they have a deal already in place to upgrade their defense . Say trading Stastney for something on the back end and feel they can forget Jones and go after McKinnon

      • mcloki

        That could be.

    • Zep2

      Burtonboy Picking a D 1st overall is vey rare. Though Colorado fills a need by picking Jones

  • mcloki

    I’m very optimistic the Leafs will buy a compliance buyout. Take the deal for what it is. A get out of jail free card. The team that takes the buyout will be miles ahead financially. Overnight. A horrible situation gets resolved in minutes rather than taking til 2025 to work its way through, slowly lingering, festering, costing you money.
    And it’ll make great Draft Day TV.

  • Dink

    Early morning thought: any gm that is NOT going to be open to discussion at the entry draft should have a light on at their table…would save a lot of time between picks…

  • Dink

    Anyone tell me excactly the TIME the Entry Draft starts because NBC Sports is showing a start time of 3 PM..

    • Burtonboy

      @Dink As far as I know thats the start time

      • Dink

        Burtonboy thats an odd time because I was lead to believe the complete draft is going to be done in one day.

        • Burtonboy

          @Dink Burtonboy Yep thats what I heard too . The GM’s must be planning to work night shift lol

        • mcloki

          There’s plenty of time. It’s just a draft. Day 2 is just a lôt of D level NHL.com guys talking out of their ass. Give them a minute between picks and 15 minutes between rounds and its all good. Who cares after the first round.

        • Burtonboy

          mcloki Maybe you don’t but lots of others are interested :)

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy mcloki You know what I mean. It’s going to be Sunday night. Canada Fireworks displays are going to be going off.

        • Burtonboy

          mcloki Burtonboy Well I’m hoping for fireworks during the draft lol

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy mcloki Me to. First words out of Bettmans mouth on Draft Day should be.
          “Good day everyone. As this is the last draft of my commissionership I’d like to say I have a trade to announce, The….

    • mcloki

      That’s it. And it’s all happening on one day.

      • Dink

        mcloki NBC probably show first round then I will have to scramble to find a feed

        • mcloki

          NHL.com should have it. TSN might cover the whole thing.

        • Dink

          mcloki can’t get TSN in states

        • Dink

          mcloki i mean directly

        • mcloki

          @Dink mcloki I’m sure we’ll post a stream come draft day. I’ve been able to find streams of Day 2 from NHL.com online. One of the diehards will post a link I’m sure.

    • daniel marois

      @Dink 
      Draft starts at 3PM ET.  TSN lists it at 2:30pm ET because their coverage starts 30 mins before the draft actually begins (the 30-min pre-show is just to give the latest on trades and rumours leading up to the first-overall selection pick)

    • JMAC17

      @Dink2013 NHL Draft (TSN)
      Sunday, June 30 at 2:30pm et/11:30am pt

  • daniel marois

    TheCanucksnaphook 
    Correct.  I believe TSN will probably show the first round and the later rounds on the NHL Network.

    • daniel marois

      TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
      New Jersey hosting.

    • daniel marois

      TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
      No.  But I think it will be one of the most active for trade activity – considering the buyouts in effect for trade offers. Something unique that has never been seen at the draft.

    • daniel marois

      TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
      Are you really planning on going to New Jersey??

  • MaxwellHowe

    Contrary to commonly held opinion, the Leafs will not likely be the only game in town when it comes to trading for compliance buyouts.  The Habs and Rangers are probably out, and the Flyers likely as well, but there are otherwise many teams in the NHL with sufficient money available to make it happen.  And don’t think that a team like the Canucks, just because they have their own buyout candidates, won’t do it – its just a matter of swapping a cheaper buyout for a more expensive one – like most comments here contemplate trading Komisarek to the Isles as part of a deal for Dipeitro.
    Having said that, MLSE must real that fans paying hundred and thousands of dollars for tickets will be pissed if the richest team in hockey lets this type of opportunity pass withoyut at least an honest effort.

    • daniel marois

      MaxwellHowe 
      What’s your opinion on the bernier rumours?  TSN said the Leafs would have to include at least Matt Frattin to land Bernier but I am sure it would be a more significant package.  Keep in mind.  New MLSE CEO Tim Lieweke knows very much how good Bernier is when he was part of LA organization the last few yrs.

      • daniel marois

        TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
        Well…it would be more than Frattin.  Perhaps a draft pick (say second rounder) or Ben Scrivens going the other way.  Seems a lot.  But I think Bernier would be worth it.  Bernier can push Reimer and see what happens.  If both play well…that gives you a better trade trade to use going forward.

      • daniel marois

        canuckintheuk TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
        Agreed.  Frattin and say next year’s second rounder (this year’s is only 51st overall) should be the price.  Bernier I think would be an excellent addition.  You can’t have enough good goaltending.  You saw what Ottawa did by moving s chip like Bishop for Conacher.  That’s what you can so with solid goaltending depth.

      • MLHS_Luke

        daniel marois MaxwellHowe Didn’t Bernier want out of LA because he wasn’t getting a shot at being a clear #1?  How does that change in Toronto?

        • daniel marois

          MLHS_Luke daniel marois MaxwellHowe 
          Good point.  But Quick has played 60+ games in a regular season and Vezina candidate.  Reimer has not played a full season.  I think Leafs would want to bring him in and push Reimer for the #1 spot.  I think the upside for Bernier is high and worth considering.

      • daniel marois

        TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois 
        YUP.  I would do that in a second.

      • Cameron19

        daniel marois TheCanucksnaphook Except that you almost never get value back on goalies.  The odds of trading one of them for anything worthwhile once we’ve created a “goalie controversey”, are slim to none.

      • Cameron19

        daniel marois canuckintheuk TheCanucksnaphook lol, Yea, maybe later we’ll be able to trade Bernier to get a good chip like Frattin back.

      • MaxwellHowe

        daniel marois MaxwellHowe I don’t see that happening, certainly not for Frattin. I do beleive Nonis and mgt. are not as happy with Reimer as most of us seem to be.   But IMO they won’t be trading Frattin for him.  Maybe a defensive prospect and Scrivens.  
        In any case the NYI and NJD will outbid the Leafs – their need for a young goaltender is dire.

      • rustynail

        TheCanucksnaphook daniel marois PASS

    • daniel marois

      MaxwellHowe 
      What’s your opinion on the bernier rumours?  TSN said the Leafs would have to include at least Matt Frattin to land Bernier but I am sure it would be a more significant package.  Keep in mind.  New MLSE CEO Tim Lieweke knows very much how good Bernier is when he was part of LA organization the last few yrs.

    • Burtonboy

      MaxwellHowe I can see teams like Detroit and Buffalo doing deals like this ( owners with tons of cash they don’t mind spending) Not sure who else given some of the contracts they presently have . If the Leafs do a deal like this they had better get a good return because fans are gonna be pissed when ticket prices go up to recover the cost ( you can bet your buns they will ) and we still wind up with an inferior product on the ice. I’m sure they are looking but it can blow up in your face as well if they don’t get it right

    • Cameron19

      MaxwellHowe Detroit is the only other team who can do it, and frankly, I don’t see them using money that way.  Their owner has no problem paying players who deserve money all that they deserve.  I don’t think he will spend millions on risks – and really, that’s what we’d be acquiring.  Everyone keeps selling these kind of trades as if the powerful Leafs are robbing the poor franchises.  In fact, all that’s been suggested is that some potential talent gets swapped for millions, and millions of dollars. The Leafs could easily lose almost all the suggested trades of this type that have been proposed so far…

      Vancouver’s buyouts aren’t cheap enough to put them in the fold.  They also aren’t THAT rich.

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 MaxwellHowe I think the Flames are desperate enouigh to try anything. Don’t write Feaster out of anything.