Wednesday Open Thread: Talks resume

by on December 12, 2012 in League News - 1,056 Comments

Wednesday Open Thread: Talks resume
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The NHLPA has invited U.S federal mediators into today’s meetings. They were of little use in late November but do re enter the picture at a more progressed stage than last time around. Bettman expressed zero interest in going the mediation route when talks broke down last week, Bill Daly is setting the bar low for today already, and no owners will be present, so there’s no sense in getting your hopes up too high for today.

If the five year limit on contracts really is the hill the owners will kill the season fighting on, it’s going to be interesting to see how or if things progress from here. The players see themselves losing leverage due to the trickle down effect of imposing a five-year limit on contracts, citing two central concerns: if the top players are only getting five year deals, what will everyone else get? If GMs don’t have the ability to reduce the cap hit in exchange for term on big ticket deals, how will that affect salaries for the rest of the roster? The owners meanwhile want to strengthen their control and see themselves conceding enough already on make-whole – a concession, according to the rhetoric, that they offered only as package deal along with some other conditions. If the players make significant demands on increasing the contract limit, do the owners yank the $100M back on make whole? Revisit arbitration, UFA and entry level restrictions? Where would we stand then?

I’d like to agree with Fehr’s assessment that they are very close – they definitely appear to be – but it’s also easy to see where this could all go wrong again.

For a good read on the situation heading into today, check out Elliotte Friedman’s always-excellent 30 thoughts post from yesterday.

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  • wiski

    I thought it was wont spread legs. ;)

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    about $5??

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  • Doorman

    A pussy is a nice furry little creature that all Normal males Love!  The C=nt is the fucking thing that Owns it!!!  LOl

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  • CanuckintheUK

    thats what you call her when she wont.. correct

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  • Burtonboy

    Terry Koshan ‏@koshtorontosun
    Sixth cut is F Tom Wilson. #SunWorldJuniors

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    Hey UK….are you anywhere around Whitechapel??  Years ago I went through a phase where I was absolutely fascinated with Jack the Ripper.  Bought tonns of DVD’s on the subject and a few books.  Would love to do the tour if I was ever across the pond.

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    LOL….that’s priceless. I’m going to have to remember that.

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  • CanuckintheUK

     Whitechapel is actually just east of the City borders (City is old London where many banks are).  I once had a second office near Spittalfields mtk near there.  1 block south was Hanbury street (back entrance of my office).. where Jack the Ripper killed Annie Chapman.  I took my two daughters on a tour of the area and gave them a guided tour showing each location… if you come over I could show you around.  that goes for any of you

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  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    Many thanks, bro.

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  • Burtonboy

    Mark Masters ‏@markhmasters
    Canada cuts Hunter Shinkaruk

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  • wiski

    So the 2 Halifax boys are in

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  • Burtonboy

    yep

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  • wiski

    Mark Masters ‏@markhmasters
    JC Lipon’s magical season continues; he was passed over by every NHL team last June but now good enough to crack Canada’s jr team

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  • Burtonboy

    Terry Koshan ‏@koshtorontosun
    Final cut is D Mathew Dumba. He did not play well in camp.

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  • wiski

    Whew Reilly is in

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  • Doorman

    Wow!  Glad we didnt get Him!

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  • wiski

    Neither did Suban. lol

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  • Burtonboy

    hahaha was there ever any doubt 

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  • wendelsway

    Hiya Guys…..same shit, different day, I see.  Remind me who the hell benefits from this lockout again….wtf

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  • maple1967leafs

    When does the US make its cuts??

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  • Burtonboy

    Bower Power ‏@So_Truculent
    Morgan Rielly will spend the tournament learning Dougie Hamilton’s weaknesses. #hero

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  • http://twitter.com/J_hardt Hardt

    Im surprised wotherspoon made it over corrado.

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  • wiski

    6 players from the Q this year

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  • Burtonboy

    surprised 

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  • wendelsway

    I’ve given up trying to figure out how they assemble national teams…..I’m sure the powers that be would tell you it’s about putting together the best team possible and the best team doesn’t necessarily mean the best players…lol

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