Better Know the Risk: Roberto Luongo

by on January 8, 2013 in Analysis - 459 Comments

Better Know the Risk: Roberto Luongo
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Yesterday, in his summary of the recapture penalty of the new CBA as it pertained to Roberto Luongo, the Vancouver Canucks and potentially the Toronto Maple Leafs, Pierre Lebrun figured out the cap penalty the Leafs would sustain if Brian Burke were to acquire Roberto Luongo before this season and he were to go on to retire at age 40. That can be seen as the foreseeable point of retirement for Luongo as after the 2018-19 season, when Luongo will be 40, his salary will have already dropped from $6,714,000 in 2017-18 to $3,382,000 in 2018-19, and will then stand to drop to just $1,618,000 in 2019-20.

However, that retirement plan is by no means a guarantee, as Luongo’s play could slip, his health could deteriorate (if he’s placed on LTIR, Elliotte Friedman is already speculating on a possible loophole here) or ideally he could win a Cup with the Leafs and opt for early retirement. The $3,382,000 season was probably projected as a “maybe” year, for instance. After the jump, I have put together a breakdown on the cap penalty the Leafs or another acquiring team would sustain depending on when Luongo hangs up the skates.

The following table is pretty easy to understand; if Luongo retires after the season listed, the cap penalty listed will be incurred for the duration of years left (2012-13 salary and cap hit were left at their full 2012-13 values instead of pro-rated).

Age
Season
Sal. Paid
Cap Hit
To. Sal. Paid
Total Cap Hit
Cap Savings
Years Left
Cap Penalty
352013-146,714,0005,333,33313,428,00010,666,6662,762,0008345,250
362014-156,714,0005,333,33320,142,00015,999,9994,142,0017591,714
372015-166,714,0005,333,33326,856,00021,333,3325,522,6686920,444
382016-176,714,0005,333,33333,570,00026,666,6656,903,33551,380,667
392017-186,714,0005,333,33340,284,00031,999,9988,284,00242,071,000
402018-193,382,0005,333,33343,666,00037,333,3336,332,66732,110,889
412019-201,618,0005,333,33345,284,00042,666,6662,617,33421,308,667
422020-211,000,0005,333,33346,284,00047,999,999--10
432021-221,000,0005,333,33347,284,00053,333,332--00

It’s not pretty if Luongo retires between the ages of 37 and 40. Depending on whether or not he’s still a good goaltender, it’s also not necessarily pretty if Luongo pulls a Chelios, either, as that still charges the cap with a 5,333,333 hit for every season he’s still in the league. And there’s no such thing as dumping players in the minors anymore under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.

The more you look at these figures, you start to conclude the following: Luongo would probably be a big upgrade in net and well worth the $5.33 million cap hit for the next 5-6 years, but will probably become a burden of some degree after that. What many of us pro-Luongo types did not foresee was the cap benefit recapture penalty punishing teams that trade for the back-diving contract as well as the team that signed it. Under the old rules, Luongo would be off the cap books as soon as he retired. Under what we were expecting would happen with the cap benefit recapture rule in the new CBA, only the Canucks would sustain the blowback once Luongo retired before the expiration of his contract. As it turns out… not the case.

If Luongo retires relatively early, the Leafs may only be dealing with a cap hit of $1 million, but could be paying it for up to 5 or 6 years. Not preferred, obviously, but not intractable either. Worst case scenario is Luongo retiring at 39 or 40 and the Leafs incurring a $2 million and change cap hit for a retired player for the following three or four years. Best case is Luongo performing well until retirement at age 41 and only costing $1.3 million on the cap for two more years.

Is 5 or so good years of Luongo worth this probable blowback? Especially if he can be had on the cheap (trade cost wise)? Could Gillis be desperate enough to move his cap hit (with $60 mill committed to 13 players next season) that he’ll be willing to retain some of his salary, helping to reduce the penalty? Either way, I say ‘aye.’ Development is random and stability is imperative at this position. It’s worth mentioning the last two goaltenders the Leafs had that were any good were both acquired well past 30. And who knows if $1 or 2 million matters all that much once the cap starts rising again.

What say you, MLHS?

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  • B_Leaf

    The Luongo contract could go down as one of the worst in NHL history. This could hand cuff the Canucks for years. Taking that much cap space for so many years on a contending team will be cripling. I mean he has been the weak link there, and the management, the fans don’t want anything to do with him. Wow, what a mess for them. Surely Burke has no interest here, if he does we can only hope the new ownership has better sense.

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  • BeLeafer29

    And no Stanley Cup for the Canucks!

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  • Mind Bomb

    lol 

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  • WendelGilmour

    New thread up.

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  • B_Leaf

    There window is closing fast

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  • wendelsway

    I have no trouble with my own and always think in my right mind……I’m left handed…..it’s some of the rest of yous that I worry about…..lol  : )

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  • Radar O’Rielly

    Who would become Schneider’s back up in Vancouver?

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  • Skip2myLUUUUUU

    This weak link thing is bullshit.

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  • keon

    It’s going to be interesting to see how it plays out. I’m not sure myself, on one hand it would be nice to see some playoffs, not that having Luongo will guarantee them, but on the other hand, it seems like another pretty good draft coming up, might be all right to get one more good prospect

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  • B_Leaf

    Actually its fact

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  • Radar O’Rielly

    But I’m not done with this one yet??

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  • B_Leaf

    I would love to draft a really good forward but that aside I like Reimer and Scrivens. If Reimer has another bad year, then we know, but this guy played very well before his serious injury.

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  • DefenceWinsChampionships

    If Rielly looks close to NHL-ready, and Gardiner isn’t read to start the season, it’s not a stretch to say that Rielly may stay for a couple games. He doesn’t burn his first ELC year until he plays 10 games, so it wouldn’t be a big deal. When Gardiner comes back, Rielly can return to Moose Jaw. If MJ misses the WHL playoffs, he likely comes up and joins the Marlies for their playoff run. He could easily play at least a game or two in 3 different leagues this season (NHL, AHL, WHL).

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  • wendelsway

    Maybe somebody needs to consult Ek about Luo……if Ek sees it happening……it’s not  happening.  : )

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  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    reimer …..

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  • CanuckintheUK

     I agree.  I think we will see a bunch mid way through next week it will start.

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  • Skip2myLUUUUUU

    Why is Luongoresponsible for the sedins playoff failures, Kesler taking horrible penalties along with having a piss poor attitude, while main contributors such as Raymond, and Edler are nowhere to be found when it matters. The only people claiming Luongo is the weak link are those who sample his bad games as the only ones of their recollection or are, or listen to Canuck fans. He’s the reason they’re put in the position to win in the first place. Their team is extremely overrated by their fans. With Reimer, they aren’t much better than we are at this point.

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  • wendelsway

    Always a pleasure talking Leafs with you all…….I’m off to the spa…..Later  : )

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  • bear1919

     laak

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  • CanuckintheUK

    I forgot the other d man we have as prospect..  Viktor Loov..  Loove that name

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  • Mind Bomb

     Well he did train Lombo to shoot apparantly lol

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  • long_suffering_leaf_fan

     he’s out with a groin pull so right now I don’t think they have anybody else … one of our goalies would probably have to go back the other way for it to work if it happens now

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  • Bob’s your uncle

    “But he traded an unproven Rask for a rookie of the year goaltender…it just didn’t pan out….if Raycroft turned out to be a Price, we still be chanting what a trade that was for JFJ”      
    Raycroft was 2 years removed from rookie of the year (2003/04) by the time JFJ traded for him. Played a handful of games in Finland during the lock-out and was 8W, 19L, 2o/t, .879SA, 3.71GAA  in 2005/06 with Boston. That deal had stink on it by the time it was announced.

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  • phaneufoundlander

    interesting info, I didnt realize and you are right….. I guess Gonzo thought Raycroft was gonna rejuvenate his career in T.O…..like that would happen to player, only Dougie Gilmour could pull that off..

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  • Skip2myLUUUUUU

    Okay since its fact, prove it with statistics. Look at his body of work then explain to me rationally how he is the weak link amongst the Vancouver Canucks . He is there 3rd best player behind the sedins who haven’t lived near up to their expectations either in playoffs but still you say he’s the weak link. Hockey is a team game and to put that label on one of the best goalies in the world is ridiculous. You want their weak link? Look no further then their illogical bandwagon fans and smartly arrogant media outlet.

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