Weekend at Bernier’s

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Everything is indeed happening. Dave Nonis has made a statement that he’s going to be transforming this team into his own this off season. Early signs are concerning. A few notes after the jump:

– The Leafs might have to move quick to sign Jonathan Bernier. As an RFA he will soon be exposed to an offer sheet and we know the crazy ass Philadelphia Flyers are interested. Let’s hope this doesn’t mean we are forced to overpay Bernier in haste. You have to add this into the equation of the deal, alongside Ben Scrivens, Matt Frattin and the 2nd round draft pick – the Leafs are going to be paying more for goaltending next season under a lower cap. If you thought Frattin, Scrivens and 2nds were a waste of assets we could’ve used to address other actual problem areas, you have to factor in the cap space the Leafs just lost on the goaltending position.

– In addition to whatever Bernier signs for, add another 500k to the cap price of goaltending next season: The Leafs reportedly took on 500k in cash in this deal, which applies to the cap. It seems the Leafs took on some of both Scrivens and Frattin’s salaries.

– Definitely a factor in the acquisition: As has been mentioned, Reimer’s biggest workload as an NHL goalie is 37 games. Clearly Nonis was concerned that Reimer couldn’t stay healthy even for the full shortened season. Can’t say I think the price is worth it for what adds up to an inexperienced goalie who is a slight upgrade on Scrivens, to my eyes, but that’s got to be the thinking here.

– The second round pick in the deal is in 2014 or 2015. As of today, the Leafs still have all their picks plus a fourth rounder from the Anaheim Ducks in Sunday’s draft.

– Dave Nonis will address the media at 5 p.m.

– Presented without further comment:

 

  • Black_Hawk

    Phaneuf hasnt been moved yet so everyone calm down

  • Black_Hawk

    TheCanucksnaphook lol and kessel too i paid for his as well

  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    TheCanucksnaphook 
    I paid $150 (cash) for my Gardiner jersey.  100% authentic…letters and numbers stitched (non of that ironed on crap).

  • Black_Hawk

    TheCanucksnaphook yeah they will be

  • Alec Brownscombe

    TheCanucksnaphook Frattin is Gards’ best friend on the team

    • Alec Brownscombe

      TheCanucksnaphook or was

      • Reether

        Alec Brownscombe TheCanucksnaphook sorry had to like that comment Alec 😛

  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    TheCanucksnaphook 
    I thought that was your job??

    • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

      TheCanucksnaphook Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
      Jim Ralph is available.

  • wiski

    Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out Ph9 😉

  • WatsonB

    Does anyone know what chanel Nonis’s presser will be on at 5pm? TSN? Leafs TV?

  • Giller

    Timing of this trade begs questions. There must be more. Just keep Kessel, please.

    • Black_Hawk

      Giller YESSSSSSS

    • Cameron19

      Giller Phaneuf is far more important to this team than Kessel..

      • Giller

        Cameron19 Giller 
        Sure is, but no way they trade Phaneuf unless it’s a dynamite return.

  • Cameron19

    Holy fuck this fan base is dumb if it thinks trading Phaneuf is a good thing.  Nonis could set us back 5 years this week if he’s not careful.

    • Black_Hawk

      Cameron19 It is stupid but nothing is done yet so dw about it till it is done

    • Reether

      Cameron19 it all depends on what is coming back in the trade, but ya i’m not down with just dumping Phaneuf for nothing lol

      • Cameron19

        Reether Cameron19 No, it doesn’t, because no trade is going to replace him in our line-up.  We could trade him for Seth Jones, and 5 years later be looking at Victor Hedman 2.0.

        • Reether

          Cameron19 There is always a trade that can make sense, let’s not be silly

        • Cameron19

          Reether Cameron19 Name me one.

        • Reether

          Cameron19 Reether Say we are trading for a bunch of futures and are flipping it for a better Top D – man

          Or we are trading for him for a Top line center and trading prospects/futures for another Dman 
          As I said I don’t want Phaneuf moved but to say there are no trades that make sense is being short sighted. Especially considering he has 1 year left on his contract now from what I remember. Ideally we would be getting another Top D to compliment him though.

    • Reether

      Cameron19 it all depends on what is coming back in the trade, but ya i’m not down with just dumping Phaneuf for nothing lol

    • WatsonB

      Cameron19 Im sure Nonis is aware of everything you are and more cameron

      • Cameron19

        WatsonB Cameron19 I’m not sure he is.

        • skippysleafs

          Cameron19 WatsonB LMAO “ego ego ego” just hopping along

        • DWCMLHS

          skippysleafs Cameron19 WatsonB Ego? C’mon, man. Sometimes people in positions of power are incompetent and make bad decisions. See: Carlyle using AHLers on his top D pair and using a guy who can score like a 1C as a shut-down C.

      • KenBreadner

        WatsonB Cameron19 I’m not sure it matters. It’s pretty obvious Nonis is no longer in charge. Tim Leiweke is, and he likes the big splash. Problem is, in hockey as in diving, a big splash is a bad thing.

      • KenBreadner

        WatsonB Cameron19 I’m not sure it matters. It’s pretty obvious Nonis is no longer in charge. Tim Leiweke is, and he likes the big splash. Problem is, in hockey as in diving, a big splash is a bad thing.

    • Burtonboy

      Cameron19 And they tried to hide the fact they paid $500,000 on the Bernier deal as well . Beginning to wonder here Cam

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Cameron19 I can’t make senes of any of it, Cam. I just know I had a bad feeling ever since Kiprusoff.

      • newkb

        Alec Brownscombe Cameron19 The Kiprusoff talk made me question the direction of this team….I can’t help but wonder if Nonis was ordered to make a splash this off-season.

      • leafmealone

        TheCanucksnaphook Alec Brownscombe Cameron19 In terms of the player acquired, sure. But in terms of addressing a need that isn’t nearly as pressing as many others, not so much.

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Cameron19 I can’t make senes of any of it, Cam. I just know I had a bad feeling ever since Kiprusoff.

    • DWCMLHS

      Cameron19 Like I said below, there are MAYBE 10 Dmen that can fill the role Phaneuf played for us this season. He’s almost impossible to replace, at least in the short term. And we can’t just sit around a hope a prospect reaches the same level he’s on, because that is never a likely scenario.

      • reenergized

        DWCMLHS Cameron19 do we have more than one player named Dion on our team??? because the one I watched surly can be replaced. There is no holy grail on our team, we do not have an untouchable player and for the right price and to make the team better, everybody is and should be in play.

  • Reether

    I’ve been encouraging the Bernier trade for a while, I’m good with this

  • mORRganRielly

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juFZh92MUOY

    • TheCanucksnaphook

      mORRganRielly Real acid?

  • mcloki

    Good God people. It’s a business trade. We were getting to this point. We like all the players on our team and any upgrade is going to cause the fans some pain. But it is a step forward.

    • Loric76

      mcloki wait till Phaneuf gets moved for Justin Schultz lol

      • mcloki

        Throw in a forward and you’ve got a deal.

      • skippysleafs

        Loric76 mcloki ooooooooooooooooooooo

    • Alec Brownscombe

      mcloki Understand it’s a business, but don’t see this as a step forward, is my issue.

    • mcloki

      Scrivens was always going to be a back up. Frattin was never going to be a top 6.

      • KenBreadner

        mcloki No problem with what went, only what came back. At best Bernier becomes what Reimer already is. Trade was totally unnecessary.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Frattking

    I really do wonder what No-No thinks of this team though. I guess he didn’t feel as high as we did when we took Boston to game 7?

    • tmlfan

      Frattking I imagine he was as high as we were, but after seeing that collapse he came crashing back down… He doesn’t want a repeat of that and will do anything he can to ensure that

    • canuckintheuk

      Frattking  He saw us blow a 3 goal lead.. also finish in out of top 4 in the conf to qualify

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Frattking

      canuckintheuk Frattking You can’t tell me an NHL GM makes his decisions based on one game. That!.. would be poor management.

    • reenergized

      Frattking Boston basically beat us whenever they wanted to … if it wasn’t for Riemer the series would have ended sooner …

  • maple1967leafs

    Might be wise to get velcro letters  :}

  • Cameron19

    You just know if we move Phaneuf it will be embarrassing.

    • leafmealone

      Cameron19 Worst way to gain cap space ever. Like, EVER. What are we going to do, move him for Letang and try the Pens model of trying to outscore our troubles, because we don’t have any D men who we can count on to actually play defense?

    • Black_Hawk

      Cameron19 you get embarrassed over trades?come on MAN work on your self esteem

    • wiski

      Cameron19 Come on Cam come up with a three way 😉

      • leafmealone

        wiski Cameron19 I’m sure if we move Phaneuf, we’ll all feel like we’re taking it three ways when we find out the return.  :(

  • leafmealone

    To anyone who hasn’t seen it, the best response to the Phaneuf rumour actually came from Craig Button.
    “Maybe the Leafs can get Stajan, Hagman, White, and Mayers type players for Dion Phaneuf!”
    My thoughts exactly.

  • tmlfan

    Am I the only one that wouldn’t mind seeing Dion traded?

    • wiski

      tmlfan Nope

      • leafmealone

        wiski tmlfan Where’s the “ban this guy” button?

    • Cameron19

      tmlfan You and wiski are the only ones out of your minds.

      • tmlfan

        Cameron19 tmlfan Well it’s good company to have

    • skippysleafs

      tmlfan “skippys is wildly waving his hand”, Yes dion has had good moments, but it depends on what comes back

    • Alec Brownscombe

      tmlfan Unless we got a better 1D, which won’t happen in the deal. It’s insane.

      • Cameron19

        Alec Brownscombe tmlfan I hope everyone enjoyed those 7 playoff games. See you again in a decade.

        • skippysleafs

          Cameron19 Alec Brownscombe tmlfan so your saying dion ALONE carried this WHOLE team to the playoffs?

        • tmlfan

          skippysleafs Cameron19 Alec Brownscombe tmlfan That was Reimer… which of whom I guess we demoted to backup?

        • Alec Brownscombe

          skippysleafs Cameron19 Alec Brownscombe tmlfan Umm no, but I do think good 1Ds are important.

        • Alec Brownscombe

          skippysleafs Cameron19 Alec Brownscombe tmlfan Umm no, but I do think good 1Ds are important.

        • Cameron19

          skippysleafs Cameron19 Alec Brownscombe tmlfan I’m saying getting a number 1 defender for peanuts was an insanely lucky bargain that could take 5 years to replicate.

        • canuckintheuk

          Cameron19 skippysleafs Alec Brownscombe tmlfan  Any maybe getting an all star potential top 5 goalie could take 5 yrs to replicate and people dont see that either..

        • Cameron19

          canuckintheuk Cameron19 skippysleafs Alec Brownscombe tmlfan I’m fine with the Bernier trade. I get it.  The only thing I hate about it are the implications fans are making about Reimer.  Happy to have Bernier on board though.

          Trading Phaneuf would be a total nightmare though.

      • tmlfan

        Alec Brownscombe tmlfan there’s a lot of things that don’t really make sense, We get someone like Letang though and trade Dion for an upgrade at forward and I think we’re a hell of a better team

        • leafmealone

          tmlfan Alec Brownscombe Except that the cost of acquiring Letang would dwarf what we could get for Dion.

    • Alec Brownscombe

      tmlfan Unless we got a better 1D, which won’t happen in the deal. It’s insane.

    • tmlfan

      TheCanucksnaphook tmlfan It’s going to be interesting for sure

    • reenergized

      tmlfan nope

    • reenergized

      tmlfan nope

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ DeclanK

      tmlfan We haven’t had a player like Dion in their franchise for as long as I’ve been a fan.

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ DeclanK

      tmlfan We haven’t had a player like Dion in their franchise for as long as I’ve been a fan.

  • Jay_Berg

    The thing is I don’t even know if we can get “a lot” for Phaneuf because hes a pending UFA. We would probably get a 1st round pick and a prospect. But I dont think we could get a high pick for example Carolina’s 7th overall pick because its just too much to give up for a guy a year away from being a UFA. 
    Therefore if we arent going to get a lot in the immediate future back Nonis would have to acquire someone else who can step in immediately. 
    What if we could pry Carl Alzner out of Washington? He’s an RFA and the Caps having cap problems. Could Gardiner – Alzner be a big minute first pairing? I donno just trying to figure out what Nonis is thinking.

    • Cameron19

      Jay_Berg Whatever team traded for him would be smart enough to give him enough money to retain him.  He wouldn’t hit the market.

      • Jay_Berg

        Cameron19 Jay_Berg thats still an assumpting. you dont know that for sure so its still a gamble none the less.

        • Jay_Berg

          Cameron19 Jay_Berg *assumption. fuckin no edit

    • Cameron19

      Jay_Berg Whatever team traded for him would be smart enough to give him enough money to retain him.  He wouldn’t hit the market.

  • TheCanucksnaphook

    Is there another deal to come down befpre the 5pm presser?

  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    -Keon- 
    I think Stastny will be a Leaf at some point.

    • -Keon-

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan -Keon- I put him in my capgeek roster

  • Loric76

    canuckintheuk TheCanucksnaphook lol slacker you’re out of shape

    • canuckintheuk

      Loric76 canuckintheuk TheCanucksnaphook  Well easier to follow the game than half of the idiotic panic comments on a trade deal.. funnier when we just complain about a stupid play our D made ..lol

  • Loric76

    canuckintheuk TheCanucksnaphook lol slacker you’re out of shape

  • DWCMLHS

    Gunnarsson will be our best established Dman if we lose Phaneuf. Let that sink in, everyone.

    • reenergized

      DWCMLHS assuming we don’t pick somebody else up … since you are assuming we trade Dion, then I’m assuming we get somebody to fill in

      • Cameron19

        reenergized DWCMLHS Who? People keep saying this stuff, but who is going to be dumb enough to trade us a Phaneuf replacement?

        • reenergized

          Cameron19 reenergized DWCMLHS I don’t know …. since either side is just an assumption why assume we would trade Dion for a bag of pucks … Nonis said he would do whatever to make the team better. I am happy to take him at his word. If he trades Dion I’ll judge that on its merits when I know the details … if he doesn’t great hope he adds somebody else as well.

      • DWCMLHS

        reenergized DWCMLHS The point is we shouldn’t even consider moving Dion. We need to add D without losing any important ones, because it’s already a position of weakness. Dion is pretty much entirely irreplaceable. There are like 10 Dmen that can fill his role adequately, if that, and none are likely to be moved, because moving Dmen of that caliber is completely insane.

  • WatsonB

    Does anyone know what chanel Nonis’s presser will be on at 5pm? TSN? Leafs TV?

  • canuckintheuk

    TheCanucksnaphook canuckintheuk  That was rough..  usually stay up late for trade deadlines and draft day.. lol.. not mid finals sunday trade days

  • wendelsfist

    I wouldn’t rule out that the Bernier trade is part of a bigger draft day splash.   Bernier seems to be the opposite route that Nonis wanted with a veteran goalie for Reimer.

    • wiski

      wendelsfist that makes sence

  • wendelsfist

    I wouldn’t rule out that the Bernier trade is part of a bigger draft day splash.   Bernier seems to be the opposite route that Nonis wanted with a veteran goalie for Reimer.

  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    Some of you folks need to step back from the ledge.

    • mORRganRielly

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan But the view below is so nice :(

    • leafmealone

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Guess that’s the downside of not being perpetually high. You know, seeing things for what they are being able to think clearly.

    • leafmealone

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Guess that’s the downside of not being perpetually high. You know, seeing things for what they are being able to think clearly.

      • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

        leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
        Pfft…..my appreciation for good herb has nothing to do with people freaking out over today’s trade.  Perhaps of some folks loaded a bowl instead of saying the sky if falling…

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone Your “appreciation” for good herb surely doesn’t lead me to look to you as a source of clarity. Coming from a former pothead (myself), I know whereof I speak.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          Dude….back the fuck off!!  Seriously.

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone Why? Maybe I don’t enjoy your constantly referring to drug use on a hockey blog. Especially not when it’s leading to high schoolers chiming in to celebrate their own drug use. If you don’t like the fact that I don’t care to take advice from a pothead, then don’t make it such an integral part of your contributions on here perhaps?
          Tell you what, if you want to talk about it in person, we can arrange it. Just rent a barn and tell me when. lol

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          How about you simply ignore my posts instead of being so confrontational.
          I’ll post what I like here (be it herb, TV shows, music, Leafs, whatever).
          Get off your high horse and go with the flow.
          P.s. – the sky still isn’t falling.

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone So you get to tell me (and others), that I need to step back from the ledge? Because I can rationally express my dislike of a hockey trade? But if anyone responds by telling you your advice is less than valuable due it’s source, than you get all tempermental. Yeah, ok.
          And honestly, I was serious in pointing out that when your comments lead to situations like yesterday, that it’s sad and awkward for all involved. Good for you if you’re a grown adult choosing whatever decisions for your life that suit you. But not everyone who is coming on here is in a similar situation. And glorifying drug use for an impressionable and underage audience isn’t as cool as you seem to think it is.
          So, sure, post about whatever you want. But when some of those choices are neither appropriate or appreciated, than don’t be a bitch if someone calls you out for it. Maybe you should just keep that shit to yourself?

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          Blah blah blah….
          You must be a very polarizing person.
          I’ll simply ignore you from now on.

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone I’ve avoided mentioning it for months and months, but when young kids come on and comment about only that, it just seemed like maybe it was time. Sorry for giving you the credit for potentially being able to see my point. 
          I guess if you can’t exist on here without making everything about being high, that I should feel more sad for you than upset. I guess I just don’t understand why you’re treating this place like it’s facebook and constantly providing status updates on your drug use.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          Are you done??

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone Are you prepared to provide any kind of rationale for why it’s so important for you to constantly reference your drug use? If it’s so great for you, I’d imagine you didn’t need the outside validation.
          I have no issue with anything else you post on, and appreciate you passion for music and other subjects. And if it wasn’t so damn constant would ignore the drug talk. But it’s just too much at this point. And when I consider the age of some of the posters/lurkers that are on here, it’s simply too much. There’s no need for it, it contributes nothing to the site as a positive. To me, at least, it just comes off as a desperate attempt at validation.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          Yup…you are just so much of a better person than I am.
          Let me know when you are done because you are starting to bore me.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          Yup…you are just so much of a better person than I am.
          Let me know when you are done because you are starting to bore me.

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone You can’t provide any kind of answer for your need to tell everyone everytime you get high though can you? At least, not a halfway viable reason.
          As to being a better person. I never said that. I have my share of faults like anyone else. I just don’t like you using a hockey blog that is open to all ages as a platform for championing drug use.
          And boring you or not, I’d imagine that if what I was pointing out to you didn’t bother you just a little bit, that you’d do as you earlier claimed you were going to and just ignore me. lol

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone You can’t provide any kind of answer for your need to tell everyone everytime you get high though can you? At least, not a halfway viable reason.
          As to being a better person. I never said that. I have my share of faults like anyone else. I just don’t like you using a hockey blog that is open to all ages as a platform for championing drug use.
          And boring you or not, I’d imagine that if what I was pointing out to you didn’t bother you just a little bit, that you’d do as you earlier claimed you were going to and just ignore me. lol

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          Tick tock, buddy.  Let me know when you are done.  
          Until then, I’ll load a bowl and continue with the other posts.
          #beatingadeadhorse

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone btw, I typed in “marijuana blogs” and got 197, 000, 000 results in 0.24 seconds. So you have 197 million other options to head for to find a more receptive audience for that topic, and then bring the rest of your interests here.

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone The fact you can’t stop yourself from responding tells me I’ve hit a nerve. So, go ahead and smoke a bowl and try to chill out.

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone The fact you can’t stop yourself from responding tells me I’ve hit a nerve. So, go ahead and smoke a bowl and try to chill out.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          That’s it…let it all out.
          Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz…….
          Perhaps if you did the occasional wake n’ bake, you wouldn’t be so uptight.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          That’s it…let it all out.
          Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz…….
          Perhaps if you did the occasional wake n’ bake, you wouldn’t be so uptight.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          LMFAO….right back at ya, buddy.

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan leafmealone Why? I don’t need to chill out at all. I’m able to clearly express my position. Which is that I’m happy to see your contributions on here that don’t consist of referencing your getting high. But your not able to express why it’s either important or relevant to tell everyone on a hockey blog everytime you light up. All you can do, is go for a passive-aggressive stance which you think is making a point. But it’s not. It’s just you obviously dodging a question you can’t answer. 
          So, I’m sitting here amused, and you’re acting like it’s not getting to you. But it obviously is, cause you simply can’t help but continue to try and imply that I have the problem here. So, what would that be exactly? That I welcome you to contribute more to the topic of hockey, or at least any subject other than your drug use? What exactly is wrong with that? Is it that I acknowledged that using drugs is your choice as a functioning adult? Is it that you’re upset that I encouraged you to take the discussion to a more appropriate place if it’s something that gave you pleasure? Is that I pointed out how easy that would be to do? I’m not seeing your reason for complaint at all.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          leafmealone Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          Don’t you have a wife that you can go argue with??  
          Reply if you must (I know you will)…..but I’m done.
          Happy Sunday….and the sky still is not falling.

        • leafmealone

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Take it easy Bon, I’ve got better things to do at this point. And you can’t actually provide a reason for why it’s so important to make a hockey blog about your drug use. And, as I’m sure you know this, you certainly aren’t going to try. Hopefully I see less of this material in future. And, hey, if not, than so be it. All I was doing was providing my two cents. You could have just done what you claimed you were going to do from the beginning and simply ignore it.

  • WatsonB

    TheCanucksnaphook The day we traded for Phanuef we also traded for Gardiner and Lupul did we not? Also Nonis organized those trades…. so its very possible known by Nonis’s history that he has something else in the books for today

    • Pent_House

      WatsonB That wasn’t the same day

    • leafmealone

      WatsonB TheCanucksnaphook No, it was the Giguere trade with the Ducks that happened on the same day, not the Lupul trade.

      • WatsonB

        leafmealone WatsonB TheCanucksnaphook OHHH Right, thanks for the correction… but either way, still proves my point

      • leafmealone

        WatsonB leafmealone TheCanucksnaphook Not exactly. One time events do not constitute the establishment of a pattern.

  • Loric76

    https://twitter.com/JenScrivshttps://twitter.com/JenScrivs/status/348849219949457408
    Thank you Toronto and the https://twitter.com/MapleLeafs for making us feel at home the past 3 years. I’m sad to leave, but excited to move back home to LA.

    • wiski

      Loric76 Nono was just accommodating the wife

    • leafmealone

      -Keon- Loric76 He might be able to afford to live in the Valley. Cause 625k or so sure goes a long way in the LA housing market amirite? And commuting in LA isn’t that big of a deal is it? lol

      • newkb

        leafmealone -Keon- Loric76 Living in the basement of the Staples Centre perhaps?

  • wendelsfist

    I don’t think Nonis is about to trade Phaneuf who played the toughest minutes of any leaf dman, who starts in the dzone more often then not, who carried AHLers, who has the highest TOI of any leaf skater, who is the top shot down defender, who plays the PK and PP.   Moving Phaneuf makes sense in a rebuild.   If Phaneuf is being traded then the leafs are getting back something “great” to make up for all the Phaneuf does.

    • Cameron19

      wendelsfist I hope you’re right.  I hope this is a ploy for hits.

  • skippysleafs

    Exactly be open minded with what could happen just bc one move happens, there has to be more to it all, IF+IF +IF, take a breath but it could happen

  • skippysleafs

    Exactly be open minded with what could happen just bc one move happens, there has to be more to it all, IF+IF +IF, take a breath but it could happen

  • Loric76

    https://twitter.com/TOTruculenthttps://twitter.com/TOTruculent/status/348883038211538944
    Lost in all this complaining about positional need and asset value is the fact that the Leafs’ goaltending tandem is now utterly excellent.

    • newkb

      Loric76They have upgraded from very good to excellent….while leaving the ‘dubious or ‘laughable’ unaddressed (as of yet).

  • Xxxxxnew

    I’ve been reading fans reactions in the LA papers and sites. Most a) don’t know much about Frattin and are asking for infor b) felt they got robbed by not landing the Leafs 21st pick and are getting the 51st pick instead c) think highly of Bernier. Here’s one description of Bernier from a fan
    “Really, really good. He’s the type of goalie who will be good for a long time because of the style he plays. He’s one of the best fundamental goalies you can see. He’s not a butterfly goalie like most NHL goalies nowadays. He’s so good at reading shots that he knows when to stand up and make the easier save that way. Good reads, VERY calm in the net, good rebound control. Athletic but obviously nowhere near the athletic level of Quick or Fleury. Not a good puck handler. Knows when to slow down the play and cover a puck. Good glove. Whoever gets him is getting a GREAT goalie. As a goalie myself, Bernier is a guy I love to watch because he’s so technically sound.

    • Xxxxxnew

      Could be he’s good at puck management around the net but not great pulling a Brodeur and sending passes up the ice.

      • Pent_House

        XxxxxnewTalent Analysis
        Bernier is a hybrid stand-up and butterfly goaltender with great reflexes, is very quick moving from post-to-post with tremendous puck-handling skills around the net. He plays big in big games – except his performance in the 2006 CHL Top Prospects game, wherein the young goaltender allowed six goals on 31 shots in 32 minutes of work. He is occasionally prone to get agitated in net when facing intense traffic, but generally manages to keep a level head.

      • Pent_House

        XxxxxnewListed at 5’11” and 186 pounds, the scouting report on Bernier is that he is an athletic hybrid goalie with good post to post movement, and excellent puck handling skills. He is considered to have a high competitive level, and has admitted that having a drastic reduction in playing time has been difficult. His track record also suggests he may need a season or more to adjust to the role of being a number one goalie in the NHL, which is not uncommon.http://canadianhockeyonline.ca/hockey-players/hockey-young-stars/item/299-tick-tock-jonathan-bernier

      • Xxxxxnew

        They had to go back seven seasons to find a bad game? That’s a plus for me.

  • tmlfan

    Hjallmarsonn, Pitkanen, Letang, Girardi, All decent defencemen that are UFA the same time as Phaneuf… Would Nonis be willing an offer sheet I wonder?

    • Xxxxxnew

      Pointless. In the past 17 years only one team hasn’t matched an offer sheet, Anaheim when Burkie let Penner walk. The player before that was Chris Gratton in ’96.

  • wiski

    -Keon- ties club record of 11 wins if they can hold on

  • Pent_House

    -Keon- I hope it’s Stastny or Weiss and not Gagner. At least Stastny and Weiss are close to 6′

    • leafmealone

      Pent_House -Keon- And he’s certainly no upgrade defensively.

      • Pent_House

        leafmealone Who compared to who?

      • leafmealone

        Pent_House leafmealone Gagner compared to say Bozak who he’d be replacing. Or Gagner compared to pretty much any other option.

  • dlb eh

    considering none of these guys have won a cup i’d say there are lots of good ways to build a team with or without Phaneuf, Frattin and Scrivens.  i like Phaneuf and would love to see us find him a buddy, but…
    count me as one who isn’t going to freak out until i get a chance to read the NEWS and not the insiders’ thoughts.

  • Loric76

    Only in Toronto do we celebrate bringing in a young, potential-superstar goalie by collectively jumping off the cliff about rumors of another player being traded.

    • Pent_House

      TheCanucksnaphook This happens every time, shouldn’t be a surprise.

    • DWCMLHS

      Loric76 Potential superstar? LOL. You’re buying into the Bernier hype way too much. He’s an upgrade on our back-up goalie, but that wasn’t a pressing need. The assets we spent on him could have been put toward something we do actually need, like a Dman. 
      And even considering moving Dion is lunacy. Shouldn’t even be discussed by Nonis.

    • Cameron19

      TheCanucksnaphook Loric76 Not many people are all that pissed about Bernier though, are they?

    • Zep2

      Loric76 Well said.

  • HHT

    WTF?!  Rookie Nonis got bent over.  “The Leafs reportedly took on 500k http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2013/06/23/bernier-updates-phaneuf-available-what/# in this deal, which applies to the cap. It seems the Leafs took on some of both Scrivens and Frattin’s salaries.”

    • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

      TheCanucksnaphook HHT 
      Exactly.  500K for MLSE is pocket change.

      • Alec Brownscombe

        Bon Scott was a Leaf fan TheCanucksnaphook HHT No one is worried about the money, it’s the cap charge.

      • Alec Brownscombe

        Bon Scott was a Leaf fan TheCanucksnaphook HHT No one is worried about the money, it’s the cap charge.

    • HHT

      Would Burke have accepted that?  We need an iron fist in charge! :) TheCanucksnaphook

      • newkb

        HHT TheCanucksnaphook Hahaha…..touche

    • dlb eh

      TheCanucksnaphook HHT 
      not me.  imagine Bernier does turn out to be better than Reimer.  we gave up Frattin, and i liked him a lot…but he’s a 2nd-3rd liner still.
      i feel we’re more likely to win every game next year than before this trade happened.  i don’t know for sure, but i feel that Bernier’s better than Scrivens and Reimer’s still a stud when healthy.

  • Bernier_The_Boats

    Phaneuf…WTF??  I hope Lieweke isn’t behind all of this stuff….Burke’s stubborn Irish side is needed more than ever around here…sheesh!

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Bernier_The_Boats Nice username.

      • mcloki

        Slow clap for that name.

        • Bernier_The_Boats

          mcloki Much obliged fair sir..

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Bernier_The_Boats Nice username.

    • Bernier_The_Boats

      TheCanucksnaphook Bernier_The_Boats It is more than likely coincidental that a deal was struck with L.A.  We’ll find out the reality over time and future transactions I’m sure..

    • reenergized

      Bernier_The_Boats didn’t really get us anywhere …. so bring on the change!

  • Bernier_The_Boats

    Love my new Avatar though  he he :)

  • Bernier_The_Boats

    Alec Brownscombe 
    Thanks Man..

  • DWCMLHS

    TheCanucksnaphook Lebrun drives the Bernier hype train.

    • TheCanucksnaphook

      DWCMLHS you dont have to listen….there inst a gun to your head.

  • rockydundas

    Reimer and Phaneuf for RNH and Oilers first? Yes Please. (But I’d miss Reimer:()

  • Cameron19

    rockydundas Good god no. Terrible.

  • Cameron19

    rockydundas Good god no. Terrible.

  • Alec Brownscombe

    Hey guys – given there’s a lot of news flying around, don’t post fantasy proposals as if they’ve happened – it will confused a lot of people.

    • Alec Brownscombe

      TheCanucksnaphook Alec Brownscombe when you post a trade with no context, without question marks, as if it happened, it’s confusing.

    • Bernier_The_Boats

      TheCanucksnaphook Alec Brownscombe I think someone hacked Alec’s acct…

    • rockydundas

      Alec Brownscombe Sorry…didn’t mean to if you are referring to me. That’s why I wrote I’D miss Reimer. Maybe I’m just kinda covering up the fact I’m not enamored with today’s trade.

      • Alec Brownscombe

        rockydundas Alec Brownscombe Not yours