GDT: Rangers at Maple Leafs (7 p.m., CBC)

GDT: Rangers at Maple Leafs (7 p.m., CBC)

LET’S KEEP THIS STREAK GOIN’ MAPLE LEAFS!

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Jordan29
Jordan29

Serious question right now, but what can we do here? Our defence is a disaster totally after Phaneuf, our whole forwards are pretty much set for the next 5 years or more so not sure you can do anything there. Bolland may never be the same player again so we cant expect him to save this. I just don't know. But when Nonis took out Macarthur, Komarov, and Grabovski and added Bolland  Clarkson, and now Holland, this team is so SLOW. Very slow now

WendelGilmour
WendelGilmour

So, I'm guessing Phaneuf, Lups, Kadri, and maybe Franson actually hang in and speak to the media. Anything from Kessel and JVR????? Didn't think so.

PEIleafnation
PEIleafnation

so on a serious note..if leafs look at coaching and a change, or the fan base does...first list whos available and can come into the market ...2 and get more out of this group? are we saying we need players coach...if so who? we cant seem to get a guy that we can make our bary trotz or mike babcock dave tipett...where every year some of these guys a hockey fan says...how do they do it?

Zep2
Zep2

Good nite folks. That 3 game winning streak seems to and points in 6 in a row seem so far in the past


Stay away from the razorblades everyone LOL GLG

T K O
T K O

@Jordan29they're not slow..... they play slow.... excluding tonight I see a group trying to play better D but they aren't good at it.... that makes them look slow and confused and offensively challenged.....( I don't know.... dont have the answer

juliesucks
juliesucks

@Jordan29 and for the first time in years we cant score...5 on 5 play is non-existent

Cloud09
Cloud09

@WendelGilmour Phil rarely gives a quote, even on a win so I don't see how this is any different. 

Wilbur
Wilbur

@PEIleafnation This team does not need a coaching change. RC is just fine. The issue tonight had nothing whatsoever to do with coaching. Maybe a heart transplant is required and I'm not pointing at Dion.

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Zep2 No matte how many games we win, most we are lucky. We get out shot, out worked constantly. This year will end bad for sure

Cloud09
Cloud09

@Flirting_With_Disaster @-Keon- No real veterans in the room. Lupul isn't a veteran, McClement isn't a veteran, Phaneuf is close to one but is the team captain and should demand respect from everyone. 

Cloud09
Cloud09

@T K O @Jordan29 It's the fucking coach. Nonis is fucked cap wise, only change he can make is the coach. Enough with the old hardasses and find a young up and coming coach to complement the youth on the team. 

Jordan29
Jordan29

@juliesucks @Jordan29 its because we cant move into their zone anymore. Rewatch that game and whenever we get close the puck is turned over.

PEIleafnation
PEIleafnation

@Flirting_With_Disaster @PEIleafnation would Lupul be 1...I mean...something bout that HBO new York xmas break ...lol ...just kinda got no explanation...other then man im wealthy dress well and fuck expensive ny women....not that bad LOL but  maybe u start with a guy like that ...that shakes it all up...u cant deal phil and dion and no 1 touches daveys deal

PEIleafnation
PEIleafnation

@Wilbur @PEIleafnation not calling for one myself, but night after night in here we read this,,,guess im asking those that want a change at that spot ..whose the guy, what is this coach bringing in to change the present roster...clearly u cant trade some of this mess on the ice...or it be done already...so where do u go...u lock up kessel and phaneuf..saying that's your star pieces...yet our C and best D...I guess isn't even a thought on the Olympic team..big ice or not, maybe im  just pissed off tonight and having too much PEI winter LOL...but im curios as whose gonna come in here and inspire these guys? or teach them how to win? still learning I suppose?

Wilbur
Wilbur

@ingy56 @juliesucks @Cloud09 @T K O I think this whole RC Swarm strategy sucks balls. I also think Nonis needs to change some things up but that will happen over time (the next 2 years). I hate the way we dump the puck in to make line changes and give the other team the puck. I could go on and on...

ingy56
ingy56

@juliesucks @ingy56 @Cloud09 @T K O Can't disagree, so the question exists are they quitting on the coach or just can't play the system? If they are quitting on the coach, many of these players have done this before, rightly or wrongly, and perhaps that is the issue? 

Wilbur
Wilbur

@juliesucks @ingy56 @Cloud09 @T K O I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't care who the coach is the players are responsible to motivate themselves and bring it on a nightly basis but I don't like the way RC is trying to coach this team.

ingy56
ingy56

@Cloud09 @ingy56 @T K O Definitely part of the process for sure, but game in and game out the game really belongs to the players. There has to be a core of players that are respected enough to speak up when required and to pull other players aside and say their play isn't good enough. 

juliesucks
juliesucks

@ingy56@Cloud09@T K O For sure it's the players, but you cant fire the whole team. We cant defend, cant score, cant forecheck, cant allow less than 40 shots, dont play physical, special teams have gone to shit. We havent been a good team since Bergeron scored. At some point you have to look at the coach...


Cloud09
Cloud09

@ingy56 @Cloud09 @T K O A coach is supposed to nurture and grow that kind of atmosphere. Yes the onus is on the players to take the reins and run with it but a coach is just as much apart of that process. 

ingy56
ingy56

I@Cloud09 @T K O Is that entirely on the coach though? Does it really take a fiery pre-game speech to get them motivated? It shouldn't, they get old fast. The motivation has to come from within, an expectation should exist whenever you pull on that sweater. That's what's missing IMO. 

Cloud09
Cloud09

@T K O The coach sure seems to do a shitty job at motivating and getting these guys to compete night in and night out. 

T K O
T K O

@Cloud09enough with the coach... bogus... and hard ass... give me a break... If anything Carlyle been to soft on some of these guys. When he is hard on someone, people get all up in arms (boo hoo) step up and compete..... You think Carlyle system is to let a guy walk you all night and not make him pay the price to go to the net..... cop out blaming the coach.

DJBrianBurke
DJBrianBurke

@Cloud09@T K O@Jordan29Sad but true. I'm not sure a coach change will help in the long run. It comes when we have a few different players and a better more experienced back end.

Cloud09
Cloud09

@WendelGilmour @Cloud09 Not blaming anyone yet Kessel and JVR, our "cornerstone" pieces aren't talking to the media. If that isn't a backdoor way of blaming those two of not being good teammates I don't know what is. 

WendelGilmour
WendelGilmour

@Cloud09@WendelGilmourI'm not blaming anyone, but if you believe our leaders should leave others to face the music you deserve what you get. 


This is on the players, and we've hitched our cart to the wrong horses.

Cloud09
Cloud09

@WendelGilmour @Cloud09 Fuck off, Phil not talking to the media is not the issue with the fucking team. You want to blame some one, look at the coach who runs a system where the Leafs give up north of 35 shots a game, almost every fucking game.

juliesucks
juliesucks

@PEIleafnation@Wilbur Well, Carlyle did great last year. The key was that he turned our special teams around. We also played very physical. We could counter attack and score goals almost when we needed them. This year, the special teams have gone south, we don't play physical at all, we're allowing waaaay too many shots, we dont counter attack effectively, and therefore we cant score. We've looked like a deer caight in the headlights since Bergeron scored. At some point, you have to think he may have lost the team...

PEIleafnation
PEIleafnation

@Wilbur @PEIleafnation ya whatever happened to the leafs were gonna be hard to play against...burkes words...so he shoulda in his time added pieces somewhere that added up...fuck...these guys get sneezed on or see a shadow and its run for dear life

Wilbur
Wilbur

@PEIleafnation @Wilbur I hear ya PEI. My concern with RC is his defensive strategy and a few other things related to strategy. I'm not sure I agree with what he's trying to do so I might be interested in a different coach in the off-season for those reasons but as far as motivation or even tuning out a coach that is 100% on the players and they need to get there collective ass in gear or maybe it's time for Nonis to make some changes. I'm a patient guy and still believe this team is 2+ years away from being truly competitive but I find this horseshit of not playing your ass off unacceptable.