Is that a light I see at the end of this tunnel?

by on October 17, 2012 in Morning Mashup - 633 Comments

Is that a light I see at the end of this tunnel?
He's tipping Burke off about long term contracts. Clearly. (Photo: Reuters)
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Did we witness a breakthrough in CBA negotiations yesterday? At the least we finally saw some meaningful movement in the league’s proposal of a 50/50 revenue split and no rollbacks on signed contracts (phrased more correctly, players will receive the full value of their contract over its duration through deferred salary). The counter proposal won’t be tabled by the NHLPA until tomorrow (Thursday), and the details are still being pored over by the PA, but it had Donald Fehr calling it a seemingly excellent start (to paraphrase) towards getting hockey back in time to save the season. Don’t go screaming hockey’s back just yet, but there’s finally some movement in the right direction.

It’s maddening it took this long to take this step, but maybe the deadline the owners have been working with all along has been mid November, the approximate date by which the league can still save a full 82 game season and all of its revenue. Or so one can hope.

Obviously, there are still a number of sticking points and unaddressed issues within the proposal. Among them is entry level contract length, maximum contract length and salary arbitration eligibility, set at two, five and five years respectively. The UFA age and experience qualifiers also move from seven seasons experience or age 27 to eight seasons experience or age 28. Evident in all of this is that NHL is trying to reduce the big 2nd-contract payday by distancing the players from salary arbitration and unrestricted free agency coming out of their entry level contracts. The players will feel they are losing big on contract terms with these conditions.

Left out altogether are buy out details or possible amnesty clauses.

The league’s latest should, however, set the table for some negotiations of substance in the coming days. The big movement came in the core economic issues we had to date seen little progress on. While the players will still be far from content with a drop in revenue share from 57 (current) to 50 percent, a proposal in which no value is lost on existing contracts eliminates a major sticking point.

An interesting and particularly Leaf-relevant detail in the proposal leaked out late last night. Bob McKenzie reports the league’s proposal includes a too-radical-to-be-true solution towards those overlong-term, back-diving contracts Burke finds so objectionable:

This immediately struck me as a harsh retroactive punishment for not only teams that signed BDCs but those who have inked long term contracts in general. Not that I wouldn’t be laughing my ass off at Holmgren, Lamoriello and Gillis’ expense and celebrating Burke’s genius if it came to fruition, but the fact of the matter is that none of these contracts explicitly violated any CBA language. It was a loophole that needed to be closed, but the BDCs were allowed to stand under the prior CBA.

The one GM who will be dumping his drawers at this component of the league’s proposal is Mike Gillis; in Roberto Luongo he has a player on a back-diving contract who already wants out. After Luongo retires, the Canucks will be on the hook for a $5.33 million cap hit for each season until 2022.

None of this is a sure thing, of course, and we’ll have to wait and see for the precise details. But we do know is this, and we’ve known it for a while now: whenever the deal gets hashed out, the cap will be dropping in a pretty significant way after 2012-13. The current offer puts the cap at $59.9 million for 2013-14 after one more season at its scheduled $70.2M.

Too revisionist to say Burke saw this coming and had reasons for his abhorrence towards back-diving deals and his hesitation in handing out long term contracts in general? I think not.

The Leafs have limited few dollars committed on their cap past 2012-13, with only Dion Phaneuf, Mike Komisarek, Phil Kessel, James van Riemsdyk, James Reimer, Nikolai Kulemin, John Michael Liles, Jay McClement and Mike Brown signed beyond the upcoming season. That’s a total of $39 million dollars committed for 2013-14, at which point the cap will dip to around $59 million. The next season? Only JvR, Liles and Grabovski are signed for a total of $14 million tied up in 2014-15.

Cap flexibility: The Leafs have plenty and will be primed to leverage it to their advantage as Burke takes this rebuild forward.

This is not to suggest Gary Bettman has been whispering scoops into Burke’s ear; we’ll leave that imputation to low-integrity journos. Burke’s been around the league a long time. He’s been a scout, served in the league office, and employed as a team President and/or GM in four different markets, all spanning 25 seasons. Maybe, in addition to all that experience, we’ll soon appreciate that he’s a patient man when he needs to be.

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Wednesday Morning Links:

A few other details about the league’s proposal:

  • Meet the Lockout Lawyers Destroying Sports
    “We are confronting our worst nightmare as sports fans: a vampire squid with a law degree attached to every tentacle.”

    NHL Proposal Just a Start
    November 2 seems a little optimistic but if they’re playing by mid November it will save the season. An extra game would be made up for every 5 weeks to make it work.

    And then someone woke Josh Leivo
    “Again here it is worth noting that Leivo’s numbers are quickly climbing to join the core of that group of top prospects, though he is obviously at the lower tier of the group.” I’ll take it!

    Player notes from Marlies’ loss ot Lake Erie
    Gus Katsaros has scouting notes on Gardiner, Kadri, McKegg and Colborne over at TLN.

    Leafs brass would move fast to get rink ready
    Good news everyone! MLSE can arrange to have the ACC ready if the season suddenly comes together.

    Reimer rumours spread like wildfire
    I’ve noticed this type of story has become commonplace: make a story about how Leafs fans are making a non story about something, based on a few tweets you found.

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    • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

      Which people?  The people with the nerve to tell me I wreak?

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    • Komas Taberle

      You will love it, more mellow than Madman but sonicly superior, especialy on vinyl.

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    • wiski

      No one told me it was national ass day?
      https://twitter.com/iLikeBabesDaily/status/258760607065595904/photo/1

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    • http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Glenn%20Healy TuckerThomas

      Lets have one.  This CBA shit is boring me.

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    • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

      Just out of curiousity, would you trade for Luongo (even a soft trade) if the new CBA says his retirement years count towards the cap??

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    • http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Glenn%20Healy TuckerThomas

      You mean Andrew R only has 44 mins left to make an appearance today?

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    • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

      The retirement years in those contracts will only count towards the cap of the team that signed the deal.  So if Vancouver trades Luongo, once he retires, his cap hit will return to them. There is zero risk for acquiring teams now.  That said, it completely removes Vancouver’s incentive to move him.  It might be more likely they move Schneider now. 

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    • wiski

      they would count towards the nucks cap if he retired.

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    • Leafsmaniac

      http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NHL-Toronto-Maple-Leafs-8ft-Tailgate-Table-/250995949479?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a70863fa7#ht_1322wt_776

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    • wiski

      Nice, shipping is a bitch though.

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    • Leafbites

      And all the players must be on vacation, Europe??

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    • wiski

      Hum ??

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    • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

      That’s interesting…I didn’t realize that.  Thx for clarifying.  That said, I think Van is past the point of no return with Luongo.  My guess is that he will be a Leaf shortly after the CBA is announced (whenever that may be).  I think Burke and Gillis already have things ironed out.

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    • Leafbites

      Nothing, just the ‘empty rink’ table. I’m just growing more anti-PA as lockout lingers, and was just throwing a dig. 

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    • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

      Maybe.  I’m waiting to hear what the buyout rules will be, and how amnesty will play into this.  It’s possible they’ll just bite the bullet and buy out Luongo.  It’s a long shot, but it would be better than being shackled with his 5.333 cap hit for 5 years after he retires. 
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      Also, remember that now the Canucks could pay 3 million of his salary if they shipped him to say Florida.  Money was always the issue with them, so this might open the door for the Panthers to get something done.  And my guess is they would be more likely to give up a quality asset at this point.  And really, now it will take a quality asset, because of the contract situation.

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    • wiski

      LOL, ok I get it now. duh

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    • Leafsmaniac

      true, but do you know anywhere else that sells these? As soon as they settle I’m getting myself one of these in celebration lol

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    • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

      Any way you slice it, this could be expensive for Vancouver.  I like that.

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    • OBIE

      The new rules are so over-arching most GMs will just be getting used to them in time for the next lockout. Hope Burkie has a head start on this stuff.

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    • Waiting4LSC

      The Shrike:  sounds like the 3 guys who pay $10 each for a meal that only costs $27, where is the missing dollar bill ?? Good post sir.

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    • http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Glenn%20Healy TuckerThomas

      “Don Cherry sympathizes with both sides”
      http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Cherry+sympathizes+with+both+sides/7406273/story.html
      `
      Actually a decent read.

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    • wiski

      The Betman Luongo rule, payback is a bitch.
      http://blogs.theprovince.com/2012/10/17/the-nhl-is-using-cba-negotiations-for-some-payback/

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    • http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Glenn%20Healy TuckerThomas

      Don’t buy The Province for the next few days.  It’s soggy with sweat.

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    • Fanboy

      Who cares about politics. Really now.

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    • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

      Interesting article.  Not sure I see the players going for this.  Then again, the next CBA could just as easily abolish the rule so in essence, it’s a red herring.

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