A dash of cautious optimism

by on December 5, 2012 in Morning Mashup - 2,772 Comments

A dash of cautious optimism
Photo: Associated Press, courtesy of Sportsnet
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Long since dead and buried is any hockey fan holding their breath after every sign of optimism throughout the last 12 weeks of off-and-on negotiations. Cautious optimism isn’t a new development, but it’s up to you to determine if it has a different feel to it this time around. One of the Fehrs and Bill Daly standing side by side talking progress certainly is a first.

What Daly and Fehr said yesterday wasn’t anything particularly groundbreaking, but there they were standing beside each other sharing in one another’s semi-optimism. Daly thanked the sizeable group of negotiating players for putting in a hard day of productive negotiations, and Steve Fehr went as far as to say it might possibly have been their best day of them yet. At least, “in some ways.”

Anyways, the two sides do appear to be buckling down with this new approach to solving what seems to be a resolvable gap (in terms of the make-whole sticking point) with around 55 games left on the uncanceled portion of the schedule.

From Craig Custance:

Armed with the revenue and expense data that only the league and its teams have, economists say the league can project almost to the date when it becomes less beneficial to hold out for a better CBA and more beneficial to start playing hockey.

We may have finally reached that point. Hope, I think there’s reason to, but I’ll leave anything beyond that to Steve Burton.

Wednesday morning Leafs links..

Four Leafs on World Junior Preliminary Rosters
Tyler Biggs (USA), Garret Sparks (USA), Tom Nilsson (Sweden) and Morgan Rielly. Team USA has three goalies on the prelim roster and has to cut four bodies, so hopefully Sparks sticks.

The Colborne Conundrum
Gus Katsaros takes a really good in-depth look at the struggling Joe Colborne. Kats finishes off by asking: “Is it Joe Colborne the skilled player Burke and co envisioned? Or is it David Steckel adapting to a bottom six role.”

Even minus Murray, Canada’s defence looks powerful
A look at the strong Team Canada blueline that includes Morgan Rielly. The article include speculation of Rielly joining Dougie Hamilton in the top pairing. Because Leafs fans couldn’t just enjoy having one of the best D prospects in the game without hearing, “could’ve had Hamilton, too!”

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  • Doorman

    Welcome to the Wiser Side!!!  lol

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  • Zeus_the_friendly_hobo

     Negotiation is NOT hounding someone for crossing a picket line if he (the individual) feels that the current dispute whatever it might be doesnt sit well with him. The taking away of freedom of action is an afront to his liberties, it is terrorism especially when said individual and his family would suffer because of it.

    The things that I mentioned are not at all things made up by businesses to criticise unions. How has General Motors or Ford made a profit from seeing Detroit go up in smoke. By your reasoning they closed for profits.? No expenses went up in a society where unions drove up the price, not only for their own workforce but also to compete and compensate their own workers in relation to others in the job market and what they are being “forced” to pay their employers. If Mr X is getting paid $y to flip burgers then Mr Y wants atleast $2y to do semi skilled labour. Now with more money entering the system people sell there homes to what the market can cope with, the maple leafs sell tickets at a price that people can afford, burgers reach a price that the market determines and Mr Y is now earning more so the price of burgers go up. Union for Mr X wants his subjects to get a bigger piece of the pie. MrX’s wages increase as then does MrYs ad infinitum. All the time India, China, Brazil are unionless offering the same workforce for a 10th the price.
    Thats life. Unions are a good idea, just like comunism BUT if there is someone who doesnt play the game then non of it works.

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  • Mortar

    I didn’t realize Selig called the strike of ’95 when the ‘Pos were the best in the league

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  • wiski

    Curling season is picking up ;)

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  • TrackofShack

    and then there is this;

    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/depth-player-were-ready-to-play-when-fehr-told-us-to-hold-out/

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  • djamon

    No…but he took the Expos away from Montreal and gave them to a buddy.

    And it was ’94.

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  • Zombie27

    He had to have known what was coming down the pipe when Bettman and Daly took the podium, in which case he was flat out lying which should be grounds for dismissal. If those misunderstandings are genuine, dismissal for incompetence.

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  • TrackofShack

    Expos were best team in baseball when Fehr pulled that plug. Many thought they could win it all that year, if they would have, or even had a good run, they wouldn’t have moved.

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  • jcg_4

     Oh really. You don’t think it had anything to do with the fans having their one and only chance at a world series being stolen from them by the hard done by, filthy rich players. The Montreal fans never returned after that strike.

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  • JVR

    Duck Dynasty?

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  • wiski

    The 5 year rule affects 75 of 700 players WTF are they fighting for?

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  • djamon

    You don’t think Detroit’s problem was the fact that they made shitty cars?

    Your simplification of basic economic theory is depressing.

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  • Optimustic

    Funny, the owners like the free market when charging ticket prices, but when it comes to paying the players it’s all about the cap and keeping struggling teams alive with revenue sharing.

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  • Zombie27

    Thanks Fehr, for keeping us with more WS titles than Montreal!

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  • TrackofShack

    Shipping Wars should be starting up again soon. LOL

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  • Mortar

    Thanks for the correction :)

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  • B_Leaf

    And that pretty much sums it up right there…well said 

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  • djamon

    Maybe, but the fact that they played in a monstrosity of a building in front of largely apathetic fans had something to do with it.

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  • TrackofShack

    LOL

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  • wiski

    Chevy and Pontiac was a bit redundant.

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  • JVR

    I’m convinced that we’d be watching hockey right now if the PA took a players vote on the offer made by the owners, which would have seen the season start on November 1st with a full 82 games played.

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  • Wilbur

    My only complaint with my package is that now that I’ve hit middle age it takes longer to drain it. What’s that? Oh, different package. Never mind…

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  • Mortar

    Screw ‘em.  Let them all miss more pay checks, revenue.  I have other things to do.

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  • Zep2

    Im not sure how old you are but 50 years ago things where going pretty well. then the US got into the 1st of many wars of attrition that it was destined to lose 

    Then in the early 70s you had this thing call´d the OIL EMBARGO where oil went from  $3 to $30 . It turned economies upside down. If oil suddenly went to $ 900 tomorrow would that be organized laboured fault. I doubt it, but someone would try to blame them

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  • TrackofShack

    We’ll probably get a better read on that in the coming days. If it’s true that all but about 50-75 players are pissed off with their leadership, they will start chirping.

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