Dave Poulin: CapGeek not really accurate, hints Kessel contract could develop soon

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Dave Poulin stopped by the Brady and Walker Show on the Fan590 this morning (you can listen to the full audio here), touching on the subjects in the title above as well as JvR, the goaltending battle, Cody Franson, and the Leafs‘ cap situation.

On JvR’s impressive preseason:

“Even since the moment he’s joined us, we’ve seen a change in JvR. I think he’s just scratching the surface, I really do. The goal last night, which we’ve seen a couple of times now… the hand skills, and I think it’s the combination of the mind going is growing into the body is growing into the skill set, [he’s] now maturing. There’s only much, much better to come from him. He’s a force every day, and since the first day of practice, he’s been a different player on the ice and he’s been at a higher level every day. That’s what we look for, the consistency part. We knew the pieces were there but the consistency we’re seeing from a professional hockey player is different from JvR right now.”

On Cody Franson:

“I don’t think there is an elephant in the room in that it’s so competitive back there and there’s a NHL-calibre of people challenging for jobs. We still have more than 6, and it’s highly, highly competitive back there. Once you get in and get going, it’s very hard to be concerned with what’s not here. I’ve been through situations as a player where there was a player is not in camp, a prominent player, and you simply can’t worry about it on an everyday basis. I think that’s what the team is doing.”

On the cap situation:

“I would caution one thing. I know there is a website that has become extremely popular in terms of cap knowledge. It’s not exact. There’s a cushion base that’s figured in here… nobody can sit outside our room and tell us exactly what our cap is other than Claude Loiselle, and that’s corresponding directly with the league. The cap number that is out there, while it’s in the ballpark, it’s not exactly accurate.”

“It’s inaccurate, because of the bonus cushion you’re allowed on contracts. There is more of a margin there. That said, for a number of teams it is really, really tight. The timing of this is unfortunate, coming off a year where the cap goes down. I think what we’re going to see is situations where teams are carrying less than 23 players. It’s going to become more the norm than the exception. 21 is going to be a number you see way more than 23.”

Cap impact of Clarkson’s suspension:

“Now you have to fill a spot with X number of dollars. You don’t have to fill it with his cap number, but it does make it more challenging without a doubt.”

On Raymond’s role in the cap crunch:

“That was agreed to before this whole [thing]. I believe it was Sunday morning we came to terms with Mason. It looks like it was but that was all agreed to beforehand. We’re thrilled to have Mason joining us and it was a really important part. It was an important part with or without the David Clarkson piece, but certainly we have a player who is stepping in extremely well and is going to have a wonderful opportunity here in Toronto.

“You’re getting a significant player, and he’s going to be a huge part of our team, and he came on a tryout because of his relationship with Dave Nonis from X number of years ago.”

On the goaltending situation:

“I got a text from a friend during the game last night and he said, ‘I love this goaltending situation,’ and it was after a few big saves by Reims in the first period. This is what you envision when you do it. Everyone’s first take on it was negative. I say everyone; a lot of the fans and the media, it was a negative take, that we were doing something to slight James Reimer. It wasn’t the case at all. We wanted to create a competitive situation to drive the pair of athletes to another level. That’s what your goal is when you do this. So far both have responded extremely well and it will only get better.”

Kessel’s contract situation:

“I think both sides are well aware of [Kessel’s desire not to negotiate in-season]. We’ve got some time here and that could still develop in the next few days.”

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  • Komas Taberle

    Dougie does a commercial.
    https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F112421542&auto_play=false&show_artwork=true&origin=twitter

  • Nikhil Daljeet

    Coupled with Elliot Friedman’s mention of a Kessel contract in the works it looks like they are definitely trying to get something done right now.  Not unexpected, but good to hear since the MSM tried to run with the “won’t negotiate during the season” storyline.

  • MTK

    Excellent news re: Kessel contract. In my opinion that should priority A at the moment.
    Heading to the Leafs season ticket dinner tonight. Should be interesting given the events of the last couple of days!

  • Komas Taberle

    MTK Remember to tuck your chin into your left shoulder, throw jabs and wait for an opening before you throw a right.

  • MTK

    Komas Taberle MTK I’m going hard after Kessel!

  • Komas Taberle

    MTK Komas Taberle Make sure he doesn’t have a wooden spoon is his hands. He is dangerous with it.

  • MTK

    Komas Taberle MTK In all seriousness I don’t get the Kessel backlash. I’m glad he did what he did and I would have been ok with a nice crosscheck to the jibs as well. Kid gets so much ridiculous backlash about how he’s soft etc. Throws some slashes back at Scott and then tilts. What do you want him to do?

  • Erikg86

    MapleLeafsHS Very interesting!!!

  • Thedoor29

    MTK no one even thought about this but Kessel getting a suspension could mean they have a good week to discuss things and get something worked out before the season even starts wouldn’t that be grand

  • Biltmore

    If they do sign Kessel I’m predicting an $8.4m cap hit.

  • Thedoor29

    Biltmore he is going to go the Crosby route same as his number and 8.1M

  • PunchyBlue

    MapleLeafsHS These Poulin interviews are so freakin enlightening. Every Leafs fan should read them.

  • MTK

    Thedoor29 MTK Haha didn’t think about that. Blessing in disguise I should think. Although the agent would be handling that. Not sure Kessel would be involved much.

  • Thedoor29

    CanuckUKinToronto white or carlo??

  • Thedoor29

    MTK Thedoor29 ya but when the player says not negotiating during the season the team and agent still have talks all the time it is basically the player tell the agent don’t bring me any number unless it is X if not then fuck off. No back and further if you will. there is an opening now as he is not in game mindset oh boy it would be so nice

  • MTK

    Thedoor29 MTK If they don’t get him signed before the season this will be a MAJOR distraction in this market. Nonis / Claude HAVE to know this and get something done. If he walks we are fucked.

  • Ratzshite

    CanuckUKinToronto E5 or E1 , i think most of Eklund rumours are for internet hits on his website to help sell ads $$

  • Thedoor29

    CanuckUKinToronto Thedoor29 oh opps read that wrong figured its Ek that is prob the route he was going. my bad

  • Komas Taberle

    MTK Komas Taberle No he did the right thing, I was surprised he didn’t take Scotts head off or extrect a couple of chiclets..

  • Ratzshite

    CanuckUKinToronto Ratzshite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzMuCM01MtY

  • mcloki

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sabres-rookie-winger-tropp-out-for-five-weeks/

  • Greg Fenton

    MTK Komas Taberle Not swing his stick like a weapon.

  • HeatherRickAkin

    oh my gosh …I am not the only one who reads Hockey Buzz . It has a few good bloggers, but for your  Laugh of the Day , has anyone read the offerings of the Sabres cheerleader, Garth ??? Whoa , has this guy got the blinders on . If he is a teenager, I cut him some slack, but I don’t think that’s the case. Anyway, that’s way more commentary on Garth than he warrants. Back to the Leafs and their overcrowded defence corps . I think it could be Liles dealt, or Gunnar. Or, and I don’t like this..it could be goodbye Franson.  If Mark Fraser didn’t have a 2 yr contract in his pocket, this kid Williamson would be a threat to make the team. To me, he is very close to NHL ready, as was Frattin when he joined the Leafs at 24, fresh out of US college . I see Andrew Williamson  being a really good stay at home, crease clearing D man, and it wont take years for that to happen. For the record, I think Rielly is ready for the NHL , last nights outing notwithstanding.

  • theacs1966

    CanuckUKinToronto We’d be taking almost 4 mil in salary.  How?  He had one good season about 4 yrs ago.  Don’t want him, we have enough Centers and Kadri will be our number one soon.

  • HeatherRickAkin

    I am not sure if it is Williamson, or MacWilliams….???  anyway, I like the kid

  • Thedoor29

    HeatherRickAkin it is MacWilliams

  • JWasted

    HeatherRickAkin MacWilliam. Lose the S

  • MTK

    Greg Fenton MTK Komas Taberle Have you ever had a 6″8 270 lb trained fighter tell you he was going to jump you then proceed to drop gloves and advance? Didn’t think so, I haven’t either. You want him to turtle Steve Moore style and hope that nothing happens? Do you think about how mad / emasculated he must have felt following that event – maybe mad enough for a second slash and a little poke with his stick??? I’m fine with what he did and would have been fine with a little more. You advance on people 8-9 inches smaller and 70 lbs lighter than you, you have whats coming to you as far as I’m concerned.

  • Thedoor29

    JWasted HeatherRickAkin ya what ^ he said. there is a damn roster down on the right hand side too and I thought about checking it lol

  • Thedoor29

    MTK Greg Fenton Komas Taberle I also don’t like the use of the stick but in the heat of the moment understand the use. as for the 6’8″ thing better yet I challenge any one of you guys to walk up to a bouncer at a strip club and mouth of and try to fight back let me know how that goes. LOL

  • JWasted

    Thedoor29 JWasted HeatherRickAkin You guys almost had me convinced it was with a S, but then I was badass and looked it up

  • Greg Fenton

    MTK Greg Fenton Komas Taberle I’ve made it clear I don’t like the sticking swinging and Iw ould be critical of ANY player on ANY team who ever used his stick that way, there is no call for it, ever. Event he first time he hit Scott he was already out of reach, he could have just kept going. 
    I understand the reaction, doesn’t make it right and doesn’t mean it was ok. ANd being mad or feeling emasculated (and if thats all it takes….) isn’t an excuse to hit someone with their back turned to you. If thats the case, if Kessel scores ona goalie and the goalie feels mad or emasculated is he justified to skate up and hit kessel with his stick? 
    Scott should have been suspended as well,

  • Greg Fenton

    CanuckUKinToronto theacs1966 if its impossible to sign him they probably have to move him.

  • Alec Brownscombe

    HeatherRickAkin I just talked to Leafs management (all of them).
    It’s MacWilliams.

  • Snots

    I sense a Dave Nonis press conference coming up in next view days with 2-3 pronouncements.

  • MTK

    Greg Fenton MTK Komas Taberle You have your opinion and I have mine – really thats all this is a debate on opinion. I just subscribe to the fact that in a situation where a professionally trained fighter with 8 inches and at least 70 lbs is coming after you all of the thought pertaining to right and wrong goes out the window. You don’t want a stick in the mouth (or in this case shin pad) don’t advance on someone like Kessel in that situation.

  • MikePerri

    JWasted Thedoor29 HeatherRickAkinMacWilliam has played very well but he is not ready for NHL. He just got out of college and he needs at least a season in the AHL.
    There is no rush, I dont understand why people are rushing MacW and Reilly..
    Phaneuf / Gunner
    Guards / Liles
    Ranger / Fraser
    Then after a few games Ranger can move up with Guards and Liles will be bumped to 3rd string. We have no choice to play Liles because he needs to be traded.

  • Greg Fenton

    MTK Greg Fenton Komas Taberle But ti doesn’t. I can undrestand the reaction, but it was still and needs to be punished (espically considering he was out of reach both times he hit him). 
    What Scott did was 100% wrong and its a joke that he wasn’t suspended for at least 3 regular season games. But what Kessel did was wrong and its joke that he wasn’t either.

  • JWasted

    Alec Brownscombe HeatherRickAkin 
    ah management, what do they know. I trust capgeek, it’s without an S.

  • Dink

    Snots trade and 2 signings?

  • Alec Brownscombe

    JWasted Alec Brownscombe HeatherRickAkin you ruined my attempt to misinform this individual

  • Jmessih

    Not sure if someone has already brought this up but, if you watch David Clarkson’s comments on TSN about the suspension. A part that stood out to me was when he said 
    1. Everyone of his teammates said something good to him and thanked him for what he did.
    2. The text messages he received form other players in the league who said good things.
    Number 2 has gotta stick out, especially when other players were interviews about the issue most seemed to be taking the Leafs side. Players felt like the wrong was Scott jumping Kessel than Kessel’s second slash but that was it really. Sabres are a team the league does not like right now.

  • Thedoor29

    Greg Fenton MTK Komas Taberle LOL explain to me what rule scott broke to warrant a suspension??? PLS I would love to her this

  • MTK

    Greg Fenton MTK Komas Taberle My comment was never disagreeing with the suspension. I’m not disputing the fact that swinging a stick is against the rules of hockey, what I’m saying is that the situation between whistles vs. Buffalo was NOT at all hockey. IN MY OPINION that was basically a street fight and if I’m in Kessel’s position I doubt I would do anything differently. If John Scott comes at me like that there is no chance in hell I drop my stick or my gloves and there is also no chance in hell I let him tackle me Bertuzzi style. At that point I’m scared for my well being and I do what it takes to get out of that situation. Kessel did what he thought it took to get out of the situation. The second slash and the poke (no I’m not calling it a spear) were a little over the top but again I would love to see all of these people calling Kessel a disgrace to the game and calling for 10, 20, 30 game suspensions are ridiculous. 
    Until the league starts policing tough guys like Scott for those types of actions we will see more and more of this. THAT is a disgrace to the game in my opinion, not a guy like Kessel (who I actually pay to see play hockey) defending himself (in whatever manner). Again just my opinion.

  • MTK

    Thedoor29 Greg Fenton MTK Komas Taberle He didn’t break a rule and in that I think there is something terribly wrong.

  • Wilbur

    CanuckUKinToronto ‘ll go with 4) since he was already cut a week ago :)

  • Greg Fenton

    Thedoor29 Greg Fenton MTK Komas Taberle He attacked a player who (as far as I know) had no intent or interest in fighting him. If thats the case what Scott did not much different then what Bertuzzi did to Moore (with much different results). A player can’t just grab another and start throwing punchs. 
    I’ve seen Kessel say he backed up (ie – not wanting to fight him), I’ve seen Scott say Kessel was ok with it. Given the player in question and his reaction, I’m assuming Kessel didn’t want to fight. If he did, that changes things and makes the slashes much worse. Telling someone you’re ok with fighting them and then swinging your stick at him…….

  • Thedoor29

    MTK Thedoor29 Greg Fenton Komas Taberle I don’t think so. Kessel made it very clear if a guy his size came at him he oblige as he did with Fylnn. Are you saying there should be a written rule about what guys fight whom?

  • Mind Bomb

    Thedoor29 Greg Fenton MTK Komas Taberle His mother smelled of Elderberries and his father was a Hamster, thats why

  • Thedoor29

    Mind Bomb Thedoor29 Greg Fenton MTK Komas Taberle well if his father was a hamster then so be it the guy should get 15 games