Kadri feeling distracted, Nonis confident Phaneuf is here to stay

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Straight into the links..

Kadri’s self belief is stalling negotiations
What a facepalm of a title that is from Simmons.

Kadri sounding increasingly impatient (The Star) & Contract talks with the Leafs are becoming a distraction for Kadri (TSN)
If he’d just quit believing in himself already this could be done. Seriously, everyone should respect Kadri’s point that the cap issues are not his concern.

Nonis on Phaneuf: “no reason to think he won’t be here for the long run.”
After every major insider reported murmurs of Phaneuf being in play, and despite the speculation that Nonis’ “no untouchables talk” meant Phaneuf was on the outs, Nonis sounds completely confident Phaneuf is here for the long haul.

Andrew MacWilliam is #19 in TLN’s Prospect Countdown
Here’s a guy Leaf management has gone out of their way to mention for a few years now, dating back to Brian Burke and as recently as our interview with Hughes.

Tony Cameranesi comes in at #14 over at PPP
More prospect reading.

ICYMI, some good Leaf artwork: Clarkson on the THN cover and Bernier’s new mask.

 

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  • KulieFTW

    First!

  • Tommy Cat

    That was quite a blog.

  • Zep2

    Nice mashup Alec  Short and Sweet.
    Love Kadris talent but he needs to take a deep breadth. The Jays just spent a mint long term on a guy who had one good season let alone a 1/2 season. Thats not working out very well for them is it

  • Loric76

    Tommy Cat I barely got through it all.  You know how long winded these blog types can be…freaking blowhards. 😛

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    Ok, lets try not to turn on Kadi.

  • ConnorCrisp

    Gawd the comments in that Simmons article make me want to puke

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    ConnorCrisp I refuse to read that asshole, but I can imagine the comments. They wait in the weeds and only pop up when there is something negative going on.

  • ConnorCrisp

    Yep. We should trade Naz since he is a diva and a 1 dimensional player. Oh also Phaneuf is a pylon. Goddam assholes.

  • Loric76

    https://twitter.com/Proteautypehttps://twitter.com/Proteautype/status/370162649222639616
    Maple Leafs adopt new “premium” ticket pricing system. From now on, If they win, ushers come to your seat and make you pay another $50-100.

  • Great Dane

    CanuckUKinToronto Lucky you – back in Europe and the lovely streaming world.

  • mcloki

    Radar O’Rielly ConnorCrisp I too join your boycott of reading Simmons.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Loric76 Sshhhh…if Wickie hears that it’s a done deal.

  • mcloki

    And to Continue on in my quest for appropriate images for the GAMe DAy THREADS, Lets go to the MEtroplitian division. Here’s how they were portrayed last year
    Carolina Hurricans – General Lee
    Columbus Blue Jackets – none
    New Jersey Devils – Taz
    New York Islanders, – Fish sticks
    New York Rangers – Power Rangers
    Philadelphia Flyers – Philly CHeese Steak
    Pittsburg Penguins – Chilly Willy
    Washington Capitols – George Washington

    OF these I liked the Rangers, Pitt, Carolina, And Devils. They looked good and were memorable.
    The food ones blew, So  i definitely need some help with those.
    Your suggestions over the last 2 days have been great to the point that I’m creating a little folder of your suggestions to see how they work. The suggestions have been great.
    Thank you for the suggestions and please take some time out of the day from the Kadri talk to make a few suggestions.

  • Dink

    Radar O’Rielly  Right ..he will be signed, case closed…

  • Dink

    Zep2  Jays suck from top to bottom…they don’t know shit about baseball

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    mcloki Islanders could be Captain Highliner piloting the rowboat across the East River to Brooklyn.

  • Dink

    ConnorCrisp now now now

  • Dink

    ingy56 mcloki Islanders ..chinese checkers?  oh nm

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/Proteautypehttps://twitter.com/Proteautype/status/370164895243042816
    Asked about Toronto’s new ticket prices, MLSE boss Tim Leiweke said, “It’s what Leafs legends Lonny McDonald and Lanny Bohonos would want.”

  • ErikGruber

    Anyone played the NHL 14 demo?

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    mcloki Philadelphia could be goaltenders on a carousel or a merry-go-round…or goaltenders names on a Wheel of Fortune.

  • Greg Fenton

    I kadri is looking for a 38 million, 7 year contract (or something like that) because he knows/believes he is a star player……that is/could be problem in getting a deal done. The cap issues aren’t his fault or concern, but they are real and will affect his contract. 
    Given all the smoke earlier, I think its likely Nonis called around to gauge the value and interest in Phaneuf, didn’t like what he found so he held onto him. Saying now that he is going to be part of the future doesn’t mean he wasn’t considering trading him a month ago or that wouldn’t trade him next month. 
    Its great that MacWilliam was ranked 19th by a fan site, but lets keep perspective. Teams get roughly 1.5 players per draft (on average), that means the Leafs should get about 9-11 players from 08-13 drafts, with Schenn and Kadri already in the NHL taking up two of those spots. Being ranked 19th…..he is in a spot that shouldn’t yield a player. Just going by the math and league averages, not everyone in the 10 top is going to make the team. So, good for him but lets not get too excited.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/ChrisTessarohttps://twitter.com/ChrisTessaro/status/370178873314381824
    One week today until the https://twitter.com/PKessel81 golf/poker classic in Toronto. Info is here: http://t.co/NYwAZz5qNt DONT MISS OUT!!!

  • Greg Fenton

    Cartsy Which means he might not get signed
    And they aren’t paid too much, they are paid exactly what the market will bare.

  • Dan39

    ingy56 Yeah, every player would want ticket prices that are only affordable to corporate clients and yuppies – way to understand the situation there, Timmy.

  • Marlies Man

    Greg Fenton Cartsy The market has no clothes?

  • Dan39

    Cartsy If he wants to hold out through camp, let’s just trade him. He’s going to regress this year anyway so we’d be selling high…

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Yaknowwhat For one thing, Kadri should keep quiet and secondly most of this is being fanned by the likes of Simmons and Cox.

  • amarshall

    Patience is the key here, as we still have lots of time to get things done. Sure training camp will be starting soon, which is a reason why both sides will be feeling the pressure to get a deal done. Im confident that Kadri and Franson will get signed, as should everyone else. If Liles was moved or bought out, it would give more leverage to kadri and franson as they would know the cap space was opened up to resign them. Its part of the process, give it time and be patient! My guess? Two – Three weeks both deals will be done.

  • MaxwellHowe

    Yaknowwhat Your numbers are fair enough, but what if Kadri is looking at the $5 million range?  I know, I’m speculating, but there are rumors he wants a homerun of a deal – in which case 100 games seems a pretty thin resume.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Yaknowwhat ingy56 Yes, they have no bearing on the cap problems whatsoever. It will get done once one party blinks in the stare-down.

  • MaxwellHowe

    mcloki For the Devils, there are many silly cartoon devil characters to choose from.  The lil devilfrom the Richie Rich cartoons.  The devil from South Park. 
    The Islander could be a shot of the cast from Gilligans Island – poor souls stuck on an island from which they cannot escape – like the NYI roster
    The Penguins – The Happy Feet character from that Pixar film?
    Philadelphia – a goalie made of swiss cheese.

  • GeorgeCastanza

    Simmons stirring up SHIT again!!  Same old same old. Worse is some fans starting to get hysterical….again , like a fucking merry-go-round,

  • Greg Fenton

    GeorgeCastanza Yep all he is doing is stiring up shit. No reason at all to think that Kadri and his people are asking for more money and term then the Leafs want to give and thats why he is unsigned……..

  • rustynail

    Dan39 Cartsy I will take that regression bet.

  • DWCMLHS

    Yes. Got tired of it quickly, though. Being forced to fight 5 times in a single one-period game gets old after a while. That’s what the new retaliatory fighting feature does. Lay a big enough hit? You HAVE to fight. Fire a puck on goal after the whistle? Same thing. No choice whatsoever. EA will change that for the real game, though. I’m sure they’re getting tons of complaints about it.

  • Greg Fenton

    rustynail Dan39 Cartsy So you’d give him a Landeskog type deal?

  • mcloki

    MaxwellHowe mcloki Gilliagans island is a great suggestion.
    Philly seems to be the tough one. The iconic Bobby Clarke no teeth picture was an initial thought. Or Rocky, Liberty Bell. 
    But I don’t want to show Philly any respect. So there’s got to be something else.

  • mcloki

    And on all this Kadri and Franson talk
    “Que Sera, Sera
    Whatever will be, will be
    The future’s not ours, to see
    Que Sera, Sera
    What will be, will be”

    Just let it happen, People.

  • MaxwellHowe

    mcloki MaxwellHowe still shot of Potvin pounding Hextall?  Too dated?

  • Doorman

    mcloki Use my avatar of Bettman for the Coyotes!!!  lol

  • mcloki

    MaxwellHowe mcloki great one.!!

  • GeorgeCastanza

    Greg Fenton GeorgeCastanza Business as fucking usual. No need to get excited.

  • Dan39

    rustynail Dan39 Cartsy You think he’s an 80 pt player this year? I’d take the under on that now that teams will be looking out for him. I guess it depends on how he is deployed, which who knows with Carlyle. I wouldn’t be at all surprised with a sophomore slump though.

  • Greg Fenton

    GeorgeCastanza Greg Fenton And its bad that the situation is being reported on…….why?
    Sometimes the news and situations are negative. Sometimes players are unreasonable and their ego’s get in the way.

  • mcloki

    Greg Fenton GeorgeCastanza Because it’s not factual, it’s conjecture. So therefore not news. but it is used by a cynical crap reporter to such in gullible individuals into discussing bullshit as if it were true. 
    I guess i’m more upset at some on this board that are taken in by such crude link baiting tactics. Call me when there’s real news.

  • LeafsForLife

    mcloki Dont forget the Islanders have moved to the Bronx if that makes a difference. I think that is this year.

  • Greg Fenton

    mcloki Greg Fenton GeorgeCastanza Unless he has been told some this info. 
    And even if it is conjecture, no different then someone who writes a “positive” (cause it really isn’t negative if you read it) opinion piece, yet I never see people upset about those. 
    One of the Leafs top forwards not signed, and apparently still far apart on a deal, is news.

  • Cameron19

    Greg Fenton mcloki GeorgeCastanza lol, Who would tell Simmons anything?  Dreger can’t even get a truthful word out of his brother-in-law, and you think anyone in the organization is going to tell Steve Simmons about the intimate details of contract negotiations? 

    And yes, a negative piece is different from a positive piece because the intention changes. Simmons doesn’t write positive pieces, even if he has positive thoughts, because his only intention is to rile the fan base in order to garner hits.  Having said that, I can’t dispute whether the article in question is positive or negative, as I refuse to contribute to the hits of one of the most atrocious excuses for a journalist in sports. But of course, having had the misfortune to read his stuff, and hear his voice more than I care to admit, I can assure you without reading it that it is negative trash, and pure conjecture.

  • Cameron19

    MaxwellHowe Yaknowwhat You know that’s total nonsense though.  Just like they told us that Kulemin and Reimer would cost us a combined 9+ million last time around. Have you EVER not heard a rumor that a Leaf was asking for an absurd amount of money?  I can’t remember one.  They tried to tell us Schenn was looking at 5-6 million, too. Just gotta stop listening to that nonsense.  It isn’t based in any kind of reality. 

    The more likely case is that Kadri is asking for 4 million per, on a 2-3 year deal, while management is trying to get him at around 2.5 million for the same term. But the media is always going to portray the “greedy player” angle, because it’s easier to sell, and people eat it up without question.