Say what you will about the commentary of Jim Hughson or Glen Healy (it’s awful), but to wave goodbye to Saturday night HNIC tradition as we’ve known it for our entire lifetimes is going to be a heck of a loss.
Nothing could have hammered that home harder than the closing montage last night.
In related news, congratulations to the 2014 Stanley Cup Champion LA Kings. Two more Cups in 3 years than the Leafs have in the last 47.
Life’s not fair.
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It looks like NYR draw the most overall.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd That's all nonsense though. If you go by those numbers than the Panthers and Coyotes are selling out nearly every game, too. Plus, even if accurate, there's nothing saying that ownership feels the need to reinvest that money after years of losing money.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd Except their long history of not doing it.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd The fact that it came from the NHL site is what makes it nonsense. They constantly report way higher numbers than reality. Just watch the games and you can see how empty the arenas are, yet they're getting reported as near-sellouts.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd In the playoffs, sure. They make sure not to get embarrassed then. But all season long the NHL reports nonsense about their gate figures. The truth comes out when we got to a lockout.
I know the owner is super mega rich, but these guys didn't get rich by just throwing their money around. He obviously doesn't use his own personal wealth to supplement the teams' budget. I'm not sure why people expect he would.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd Yea, and tickets pre-sold to companies who buy in mass at discounted rates are not the same as tickets sold to the public, either - yet they report the average price of tickets purchased by consumers.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd Yea, it's like that in Phoenix too, except if you just wait you can get tickets super cheap at the rink, on game-day.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd Sure.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd That doesn't add up. Scalpers may take an occasional loss, but they sure won't keep doing it.
For the record, I'm not saying COL will be letting Stastny go, or trading Ryan O'Reilly. I'm just saying I find it to be a definite possibility given their financial history.
@CanuckUKinToronto @Cameron19 Hypothetical situation: You can trade Kadri for a good young defender, or you get the opportunity to package him with Clarkson for an older, but still good forward....what do you do? We need the defender more right now, and adding a young player is clearly preferable - but moving an albatross might serve us better in a lot of other ways.
I think everyone needs to accept Clarkson won't be moved under any circumstance.......he had a horrible year, no one will take his contract on.
Clarkson will need to be put with the proper type of players (players who cycle the puck)
I could see Kadri being moved out, I'm just not sure how much we would benefit from moving our most offensively talented Centreman
@CanuckUKinToronto @Mind Bomb Thats Awesome news bro, she was smart enough and trusted her dad enough to Call when drunk,or here friends were ? in this day and age , hell in our day in age, drinking happened at 17.
If my daughter calls me when drunk, instead of the alternatives, I will take that every day of the week my friend
no offense intended
Personally, I think Phaneuf can be had if the other team is offering up fair value
To me, I see Edmonton being a very logical trading partner.....they need that big defenceman and the whole youth thing is getting them nowhere right now.
Would COL give up Duchene? I'm not sure they would
@Dewy Keon Hogturd Money. They have been a floor team with an owner that refuses to spend more. This has been an on-going criticism of that group for over a decade now.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd And its likely to be a bit higher then that too. This yr aside the cap is going way up in subsequent yr.
@CanuckUKinToronto @Dewy Keon Hogturd Yes, allocation of funds is a big part of it. Their top six defenders cost them 11M last season. One way or another, that number is going to increase dramatically, either because they keep up the good play and earn gigantic raises, or because they had to invest more money there. When that happens, having 5 forwards at 6M will be troublesome for a team that doesn't like to spend.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd Perhaps. But even when the team was regularly good, they were still cheap. I look at it from Stastny's perspective, and I think the biggest reason he might leave is because he foresees what I just said above - the team is going to have to invest in defense at some point. A year or two down the road, and one of their forwards is going to get traded for a defender. So basically, he's asking himself now if he wants to choose the team he goes to, or if he wants to let COL do it, and get dragged through a bajillion trade rumors and a season of questions. Because when they want to make that trade, he will be the guy they point to, being the oldest.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd I don't think ownership groups care about making or losing a few million dollars every year. The reason they own the team is to gain the long-term value from the increase in franchise value. The Avs in particular have acted this way for a long time now. It's possible that could change now with them turning the corner though, as you say - I'm just not holding my breath. If we were Avs fans, cynical as we are, we'd be getting ready to part with someone significant right about now.
They would've cashed in on the 4 playoff home games this year..........I might be mistaken but playoff games are where teams make some good money
@Dewy Keon Hogturd Well, the history of the NHL has shown just the opposite. Sit on your hands and be a floor team and you're still making a shit load of money every year, just because the value of your franchise increases. I'm saying they aren't going to change their budget dramatically just because they MIGHT make a few extra million in playoff revenue.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd Several million per game is only for the big franchises. There's a pretty wide spectrum there. Phoenix is still struggling to sell all their tickets in the playoffs, so it's not like they're jacking the prices up to unreasonable levels.
I'm sure there is a definite possibility COL might not want to spend to the Cap (even if there is a possibility of making playoff revenues).........my thinking is Patrick Roy and Joe Sakic may have a say in the spending habits of COL
I could be way off on that, either way
@Mind Bomb @Cameron19 @Dewy Keon Hogturd I can't believe what a big loss Barrie was on D. Not surprisingly, broadcasters never mentioned it, but he finished the last 2 months of the season as a winger, and swapped back to D right before the first round - yet somehow they couldn't do anything without him.
@Dewy Keon Hogturd Yea, they tasted it in 2010, too. Nothing changed.
@Ydargo A theory only yes, but if I am Colorado, I have already moved two great young Centers in to the Wing, and if I am doing that I might as well go get the Best natural Winger instead, to play with Mackinnon
How about the point a playoff game sniper Phil Kessel
Landeskog-Mackinnon-Kessel, Thats OMG Sick
And the improve there Top pairing
@Ydargo We need defenders too. Not sure why people think we can afford to move Dion. I'm all for it if the plan is to tank, but if we expect to improve by moving him, we're out to lunch - even if we got a wildly fictional return like Duchene.
I agree 100% on that.......if we lose Phaneuf we will have a big gaping hole on Defence
Truth be told, moving Franson is probably the most realistic move
@Dewy Keon Hogturd i think more then just me care cause if he doesn't resign then he's a prime target for the leafs.
Also its at least something to talk about.
@mike_84 @CanuckUKinToronto ROR played wing most of last season I do believe . I think we can safely forget getting any of those guys from Colorado . I keep hearing management will spend if they see progress on the ice . I think they probably saw enough progress last yr to warrant spending to keep the major pieces of that team together