Leafs fans have the patience for a “true rebuild”

by on January 13, 2013 in 2012-13 Season - 873 Comments

Leafs fans have the patience for a “true rebuild”
Dave Nonis, GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs
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Former NFL coach Buddy Ryan once famously said, ‘If you listen to the fans, you’ll be sitting up there with them.’

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, it means that, as a GM or coach of a pro franchise, your job is to do what is best for the team regardless of what the fans believe. Thus, when a person is commenting on the Leafs and says, “Toronto isn’t patient enough to let the Leafs rebuild,” I can’t help but wonder what the hell they are talking about, and why it would even matter.

Let’s start with the facts, which suggest this isn’t even true to begin with.

The Leafs have sucked, or at best been mediocre on the whole, since the lockout of 2004-05 passed (side note, having to distinguish between lockouts now is absolutely embarrassing; thanks, NHL). Yet what do you see when you watch, or go to, Leafs games? Fans. Has merchandise magically stopped selling in Leafs-land? No. Have people stopped tuning into HNIC to watch the Leafs? Not that I’m aware of (frankly, I wouldn’t mind if people did, because then CBC wouldn’t assign their “number one” announcer Jim Hughson to announce Leafs games).

Here are some figures courtesy of Forbes to consider. The Leafs average ticket price is $120, the next highest is $96 (Habs). Even with that obscenely high ticket price, and lacklustre play, the Leafs rank fifth in average attendance according to ESPN , and the only reason they aren’t higher is because they don’t have as many seats to sell as the teams ahead of them. In terms of percentage of the arena filled, the Leafs rank third, behind only Philadelphia and Chicago, who are pretty well perennial contenders.

The Leafs also, according to Forbes, are the highest revenue grossing team at $200M. The next four teams are the Rangers, Canadiens, Canucks and Bruins. All four of those teams have gone to at least the Conference Finals within the last three seasons. Whereas the Leafs, in the last seven seasons, have finished accordingly: 18th, 18th, 24th, 24th, 29th, 22nd, and 26th.

Standings wise, the Leafs have more or less been trending toward a rebuild. The irony, of course, is that they’ve been conducting business as if they are doing anything but.

Don’t forget, either, that Forbes recently reported that the Leafs are the NHL’s first billion dollar franchise.

So those are facts. They basically read that the Leafs are as profitable ever, fill their arena as much as they ever have, and have sucked throughout the process.

Now for the second part of the equation, which is, actually listening to the fans versus doing what is best for the team.

The bottom line reads that, if any franchise is listening to their fans compared to the guys that they give millions of dollars to to make decisions, then there is a problem.

The irony of fans getting mad at ownership for dictating what a GM does, while also getting mad when that same GM doesn’t do what they want him to do, is almost too rich for words.

I mean, if the Leafs aren’t going to rebuild because the fans wouldn’t tolerate it, then they might as well put a poll up on Leafs.com right before they are about to make any and every transaction.

What’s the worst thing that would even happen should the Leafs ever decide to just tear it all down and literally start from scratch with top draft picks? The fans stop coming? If the above stats didn’t convince you that fans would clearly not stop coming, then nothing will.

What’s the other drawback? Fan backlash? The only reason fans have been so pissed off over the last few years is because the Leafs repeatedly stated that they won’t rebuild traditionally, yet were doing terribly regardless. They brought the pressure on themselves. Whether you agree or not with that isn’t the point, the point is that the average fan got genuinely excited when Burke came to town and appeared ready to turn the franchise around right away, then didn’t. It’s the comment I personally receive most from most people, that he “hyped everyone up, then didn’t produce ****. “

If someone in charge of the Leafs frankly states, “This is going to be a slow rebuild, but we will use the draft to accumulate elite talent over a few years and then rise,” are there fans that will seriously be mad throughout those seasons? Frustrated, no doubt; it sucks watching your team lose. But when a guy is clear with you about the direction he’s taking, and you begin to see elite players in the system coming up – I haven’t spoken with one Leafs fan in three months who isn’t tickled pink about Morgan Rielly – then what is anyone seriously going to get mad about? Yeah, Leafs fans are extremely passionate, but if it’s laid out for them like that and it’s easy to see the actual plan coming together, only the special kind of Leafs fans would actually be mad about that.

The Leafs have come to a point, as a team, where they are one of the punch-lines of the league. It is sad, but it is true. They are right up there with the Islanders and Blue Jackets, and man does it pain me to say that. While I do personally believe they are somewhat on the rise – especially if they get a certain goalie – there actually isn’t much further they could have sunk in the past few years.

Yet here we are, even after another ridiculous lockout, clamouring for them.

So let’s not turn this into a “THIS is why the Leafs never win, because fans always come!” debate, or even discuss whether the Leafs should just completely tear it down and rebuild right this second (that wouldn’t make sense at this point). This isn’t even really a discussion on the state of the current team; it’s purely about whether the Leafs could do a slow rebuild in Toronto.

Let’s also not pretend we would stop watching if the Leafs tanked, or if we actually did stop watching for a bit because they sucked, that we would not return after they’ve accumulated more than a few elite young talents and started morphing into a Cup contender ala Chicago, Pittsburgh, etc.

Let’s call this exactly the two things that it is: One: the fans can clearly be patient enough for a rebuild, and two: whoever is in charge of the team has to do whatever he thinks is best for the team regardless of what the fans believe, the Leafs winning (eventually) is what is most important.

The Leafs most likely aren’t going to rebuild anytime soon, so all of this is generally speaking moot. That said, it’s time to stop listening to the dribble that says “Toronto would neither tolerate, nor have the patience for, a true rebuild.” That’s just not true.

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  • OBIE

    The question Burke was asked at the podium is why didn’t he do a rebuild like Pittsburgh. It was an asshat question because Pittsburgh didn’t do a rebuild. It was slowly going broke and couldn’t afford to stock the team and kept finishing at the bottom of the league. There was no plan. Mario had given up and actually sold the team to Balsillie, which the NHL overturned. Miraculously the league found funding from a group that included illegal dealings by Boots Delbaggio and miraculously Pittsburgh won Sid in a made up draft lottery. Some plan

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  • Skar

     Thanks!

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  • Yaknowwhat

    When your whole job is based on assessing talent…and you sign guys to million dollar contracts and they can’t perform….its not called unlucky..its called misjudging..and no I am not talking about injured players like Reimer….although going with two unproven goalies could be seen as poor judgment as well…

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  • djamon

    Nice rationalization. Eventually you’ll even convince yourself.

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    No one is saying it was all luck, but you would have to be a moron to think that gross mismanagement (and maybe some fishy draft arrangements) didn’t factor into what Shero was able to do.  I’m not discounting him to say that – I agree, he brought in a lot of decent pieces outside ‘the tank’.  
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    Burke wasn’t even calling him lucky either.  He was simply saying it’s not a model that can be followed with the expectation of success.

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  • Skar

     ya…what he said!

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    Context matters. It wasn’t an insult. 

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  • Waiting4LSC

    Obie: Phook is unofficial videographer, will you be unofficial historian please?

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  • peterbleafs

    If we do not make the playoffs I would like a draft pick in the top 6 this year.  I think that gets us a very solid number one center possibility.

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    Well, you can go by whatever you want, but Cox is the guy who drinks beers with Burke and Nonis, and was intimately connected to the situation as it unfolded. But since you’ve removed your need for context, I can see how things like that wouldn’t matter.  I guess the only truth is what Burke says to the camera in after-the-fact interviews, lol.

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  • peterbleafs

    I watched Sean Monahan play the Knights the other evening.  I really like his hockey sense, but he isnt fast from what I saw.  However, his team was down 6-0 at the end of the first period.  A disheartened team.  But he earned 2G and 1A in the game and was always in the right position offensively.

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  • Waiting4LSC

    6 in 14 chance. You might get your wish. But then the draft is behind closed doors!!!  :)

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  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    Exactly.  Shero’s done a lot of good since then, but giving him credit for that is hilarious. Not surprisingly, it’s the same people who refuse to acknowledge the brutal hand Burke was dealt upon his arrival here.

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  • Leafs_17

    so Pittsburgh tanked to get Crosby now? they must of know there would be a lock-out a year before hand then

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  • Waiting4LSC

    We need speed sir.

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  • Komas Taberle

    MacKinnon, Druin or Barkov are my choices

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  • Wilbur

    McCown as well. He said he had it on good authority and was absolutely 100% positive that Nonis tried extremely hard to get them to keep Burke on for the year and see what happened.

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  • Mattmark

    The real problem with Burke is one you must have encountered: when you reason too clearly, those who can’t emulate the feat feel the ‘dumb fuck’ is implied, even if it’s never said.

    Burke never learned to ‘dumb it down.’  Man after my own heart!  ;-)

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  • Waiting4LSC

    Really like Drouin, but am concerned that his size will ultimately be to his disadvantage.

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  • Black_Hawk

    Top 5 would give us a even better possibility

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  • Black_Hawk

    But his skill and hands could overcome that

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  • Komas Taberle

    The only ask I have of the NHL to make it up to the fans is to do the draft out in the open, all the 14 non playoff teams in a drum and start pulling out the 1st draft through 14, that would be great TV.

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  • OBIE

    I’m like Burke. I despise revisionist history. I’m stunned people don’t remember Pittsburgh as the joke of the league from the time leading up to their resurrection because of the Crosby draft.

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  • djamon

    In your unlimited wisdom, explain to me why Burke would tell a reporter he’s “having beers with” what really happened, but not reveal that in an interview with TSN.

    The rationalization is astounding in here tonight.

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  • Komas Taberle

    I don’t know, look at Eberle , Drouin should be bigger than him.

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