Mashup: Thoughts on a Player’s Perspective

by on July 23, 2012 in Morning Mashup - 1,463 Comments

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Saturday morning, CBC Sports ran an opinion piece on the CBA written by an anonymous player. The article is incredibly honest, and brings to light that some players have legitimate fears about the impact of lockouts, salary rollbacks, and limited window hockey players have to make a living.

A few quotes really stuck out:

“We certainly can’t be foolish enough to think that this initial offer will be accepted, but really, what can players do? If owners want to stand pat, eventually players would be forced to cave, or take their chances with another league.”

Players can take a chance on another league, but outside of the KHL the compensation levels will fall off. It also means uprooting yourself and going around the world to play, which isn’t the first choice of most players. Where I think this is a bit of an overreaction is the idea that the owners have a lot to lose from empty arenas, as well. Rogers and Bell I’m sure would like to make a little money off their billion dollar purchase. If Greg Jamison purchases the Coyotes I’d imagine he’ll need to at least sell a few tickets this year to stay afloat. It’s mutually beneficial to make this deal work.

“Players were raked over the coals in the last CBA negotiation and we came out with our heads above water.”

Ruh-roh. Unresolved tension isn’t going to help this situation. Thankfully, Donald Fehr seems to be a professional and has been to this rodeo a few times before and seems will bring a level of professionalism that was missing in 2004.

“What else can we do? Our careers do not span very long, so why not make as much as you can while the time is right? Contracts are offered by team general managers and honoured dutifully by players. No one holds a gun to anyone’s head during negotiation. So, why now, do we find ourselves in the same boat as 2004-2005?”

I agree with this point full heartedly. This really points to the larger issue of the disconnect between the haves and have-nots of the NHL ownership. I hate the term unfair, but it seems to be unfair to ask the players to pay the price for contracts they can’t afford. Regulating player contracts seems necessary, but contracts reached in good faith should be honoured.

“A hard cap was implemented. All player salaries were rolled back 24 per cent. (Think about that for a second; you have a guaranteed contract for $500,000, and someone is going to reach into your pocket and take back $120,000?? Insanity in theory, right?). And entry-level salaries and signing bonuses were drastically reduced for the most part”

I’m sorry, you lost me a “you have a guaranteed contract for $500,000.” The best way to gain public sympathy is to not remind us that your minimum wage is $500,000 to play a sport that many of us pay good money to play. There is a good point in there that most of our employers could never get away with this. Of course, most of our employers also have the opportunity to fire us if we’re incompetent and pay a small severance. The Islanders on the other hand had to pay a small countries GDP to rid themselves of Alexi Yashin.

“Take more money from players” isn’t a viable solution for a successful business model. The owners don’t want to fix what are the real issues at hand.”

As I mentioned earlier, I agree that there is a lot more that needs to be figured out between the NHL ownership group than between the players and owners.

“Greedy players and greedy owners ruining my game. But now that I’ve seen it from the inside, I’ll tell you that’s the last thing players want.”

It’s foolish to believe that either side wants this. A work stoppage doesn’t benefit either side, and while some owners might be losing money, it doesn’t equate to what they’d lose in a partial or cancelled season. As for the players, it’s pretty obvious they don’t want it either.

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  • MSM

    It’s the fans who are in a rush. Luongo is probably away on vacation not even thinking about it.

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  • JVR

    It’s a season long pool on Yahoo.

    Batters Stat Category
    Value

    Runs (R)
    1

    Singles (1B)
    1

    Doubles (2B)
    2

    Triples (3B)
    3

    Home Runs (HR)
    5

    Runs Batted In (RBI)
    1

    Stolen Bases (SB)
    2

    Caught Stealing (CS)
    -1

    Walks (BB)
    1

    Intentional Walks (IBB)
    2

    Hit By Pitch (HBP)
    3

    Strikeouts (K)
    -1

    Hitting for the Cycle (CYC)
    75

    Grand Slam Home Runs (SLAM)
    10

    Pitchers Stat Category
    Value

    Innings Pitched (IP)
    1

    Wins (W)
    10

    Losses (L)
    -5

    Complete Games (CG)
    10

    Shutouts (SHO)
    10

    Saves (SV)
    5

    Earned Runs (ER)
    -1

    Home Runs (HR)
    -1

    Strikeouts (K)
    1

    Relief Wins (RW)
    10

    Relief Losses (RL)
    -5

    Pickoffs (PICK)
    1

    No Hitters (NH)
    75

    Perfect Games (PG)
    150

    Blown Saves (BSV)
    -3

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  • MSM

    I had a Jr. B coach, Fran Martin, who had a career in the 50s as a D in the NHL and AHL, mostly with the Blackhawks. He would never say anything after the game. He said he watched the dozen coaches he had in pro and decided it was better because of immediate emotions to let it simmer overnight and address it at practice the next day.

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  • skiingallday

    Holy shit that’s cray, especially for pitchers, pretty much the same hitting stats that my pool uses, just not even close with pitching. Basically I’d say that if you think Hanrahan is at, or near Johnsons value then do the trade because holliday is (not by much) better than Hill

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  • JVR

    Whoops, I forgot to mention that I’m around +80 or 90 in IP and can’t afford to keep Johnson, as I’d end up not being able to start Verlander and Cain near the end of the season.

    Also, why do you say relievers don’t have as much value as starters?

    Check out this stat:

    Johnson: 113.2 IP – 163.69 Fan Pts
    Hanrahan: 38.1 IP – 277.33 Fan Pts

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  • JVR

    Considering goaltending is huge in this pool, whoever is getting Lundqvist in this deal is definitely the winner!

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  • skiingallday

    That’s just in my league, in that case you should defs start cain and verlander over Johnson, and I would say that’s a great trade out of necessity

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  • JVR

    Right now Hill is the #1 player in my pool (in terms of Fan Pts) but that’s only because his numbers are inflated with two 75 point cycles, haha.

    What are the pitching stats like in your pool?

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  • skiingallday

    I think it’s a win for both of us, one needs goalteding and has a dilemma about who to pick for their 6, and the other doesn’t have enough good players to keep and would benefit from having Havlat as a keeper as well as a high powered offensive force in DSedin (the best FWD on the team he’s likely going to)

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  • JVR

    I’m also getting a 7th round pick in return for my 11th.

    Not that big of a deal though.

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  • skiingallday

    http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyhockey/players/player/splits/2011/1282181

    back to that CBS site, this is why I like it, there’s so many stats, generally I would look at splits and past trends against team, road/home, on whether or not I’d play the guy on a certain day.

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  • skiingallday

    Ya I would say do that deal, it seems to me that from your scoring system and the fact that you need to save innings then it’s a no brainer because I doubt Hill is going to hit for the cycle a 3rd time this year

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  • JVR

    However, if he trades Lundqvist, he’ll then be the one searching for a goalie, as I don’t think he’ll want to keep Theodore, haha.

    I guess we know what Steele123 will be picking with his 1st round pick!

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  • skiingallday

    But look at his offence, Sedin would be a huge upgrade over the rest of his roster, and I would rathe roll with a proven goalie and a top goalie prospect, plus i dont like vancouver

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    For his sake, hopefully he can find a decent starter in the draft, because I know there will be quite a few good forwards available that could help out his offence problem.

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  • skiingallday

    No, there aren’t any points for a relief win. That’s what I was thinkin when I drafted Philly, I thought it was a safe bet to be one of the best pitching staffs. Whoops. Anyways, I still drafted EE and Hamilton in later rounds LOL, plus I have Votto (fuck me he’s injured) and a bunch of other huge O-weapons

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  • skiingallday

    Well, we both have shitty teams to start with, and I think we just want to make a trade to dramatically alter what we were given, I might even keep Perron over Schenn, after examining the CBS page on Perron I noticed that he needs to improve his road game, but also with the emergence of Pietrangelo (had him last year) and a full offseason (like Lupul needed) I expect Perron to be around 70pts

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  • JVR

    Shit, if we’re talking about Henrik Lundqvist here, I should definitely put my name in the hat for this one!

    I have an abundance of stars and can’t keep them all anyways.

    I think an offer of Gaborik and Rask trumps your offer, haha.

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  • 00DT00

    Lupul – Getzlaf – Kessel
    Kadri – MacKinnon – Perry
    JVR – Bozak – Frattin
    D’Amigo – McClement – Brown

    Phaneuf – Gardiner
    Rielly – Gunnar
    Franson – Holzer

    Scrivens
    Owuya

    Also draft Max Domi if he falls to 14-18

    Trade as much as possible at deadline (Grabo, Kulie, Mac, Conn, Steck, Komi, Lombo, JML) and win the lottery to draft #1 overall.

    Eventually replace Bozak with Colborne if hes not involved to get Max Domi, would rather give up McKegg+

    Getz and Perry are both UFA signings, or might have to pull off a trade to get one of them via trade and sign the other? [Percy/Blacker, McKegg, Ashton & Grabo or something along those lines]

    Wow, whataa team.

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