Morning Mashup: A New Leaf(s)?

@Burtonboy The biggest impedement to that working are the Depietro, Kovalchuk t, Richards  type contract. DUM DUM contracts signed by DUM DUM  OWNERS and GMS Otherwise, other players will be subject to the 50/50 much sooner. Alot of this is about economics/cash. But as much is about saving the owners from themselves

New thread up boys.

@Dangle_My_Berries  Yeah, he knows hockey! lol

@DefenceWinsChampionships  You would think, but some of the owners signed those deals praying that there would be a rollback. It’s only day 1, they need to talk more…I hope.

@DJBrianBurke he’s been milking that for years…hahahahahaha

@Marpole_Leafs  Ha! None, but he did mention when he “was in Columbus…”.

@DJBrianBurke How many times did he mention he drafted Rick Nash ? Probably at least 3 times I’m guessing.

@DJBrianBurke kinda odd that Ray Ferraro the night before picked the leafs as one of the teams that could potentially make it back to the playoffs if the season started….guess Ferraro knows something Maclean doesnt…lol

@Dangle_My_Berries Yeah, it would have been funny if it wasn’t so sad. I never agree with Doug anyways.

To me, it seems fair for the NHL to have to honour the contracts they already gave out, while using a 50/50 HHR split as the basis for new contracts. Like if player A got a $6M/yr contract ore-lockout, and is a good comparable for player B, who is negotiating a new contract post-lockout, player B should make what player A would have made, had there been a roll-back on his contract to get to a 50/50 split.

Nhl offer basically guaranteed present contracts did it not? If both sides wanted a deal they would be negotiating 24/7, one side or both does not want to get it done. I do not see Fehr and Bettman agreeing on anything. Proposals could be identical and they would turn them down.

@DJBrianBurke ya i saw that too, they proceeded to throw Dion under the bus stating hes not a leader and the team lacks leadership and has no real identity. Pretty doom and gloom

lol Maclean said today that eh Leafs will finish last when the season starts again.

How long till ESPN lists Dion Phaneuf as the most overrated player currently under lockout ?

Hopefully it will be no gamies now, no fannies in the seats when they come back.

@Doorman Go to bed oldtimer.   lol    

@DJBrianBurke No Workie!  No payie!

 What a sad world we live in when you ask an employer to honour a contract and they tell you “no” and take away your work.

Bruce Arthur ‏@bruce_arthur NHL: PA’s Option 3 — 50-50 but guarantee current contracts — would, when current contracts are factored in, essentially give players 57%.

 That’s stupid and idiotic way to get a deal. I wished the NHLPA came and said “Here’s our deal without a cap, take or leave it”. They don’t NEED 82 games.

Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib Essentially, the #NHL source claims the league was never handed any 3rd proposal that was 50/50 AND honoring contracts by Fehr

Look you guys;  bets said this is the deal 50/50 take it and there is 82 games. Dont take it and you get sweet fuck all!

Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib #NHL source: Both first 2 #NHLPA proposals paid out $1.9 billion in ’12-13 (more than ’11-12) and got to 50-50 in Year 5

 I hope some teams die, that’s one way to get to a healthy league.

@Doorman I think the league us done. The damage being done to it is going to be huge. People will not flock back to it this time. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you.

 Then there’s no season, that’s not negotiating. I have to say, I don’t blame the players one bit. Not happy there still isn’t hockey, but the fact remains that every bargaining agreement in the future will pull the players back more and more. In 6-8 years the split could very easily be NHL 57/43 NHLPA, if not more. The owners have all the power and will always ask for more money now that they have their cap in place. I would be shocked if the percentage ever increases for the NHLPA going forward than it was in a previous agreement.    

@wiski Bingo. That’s why it makes me laugh hearing Ferraro, Johnson, et al. on TSN claim that this negotiation is primarily about future generations. I get it, you have to stall the steamroller, but this is about the current players not losing their limos and champagne. 

@DJBrianBurke I think either the pa takes the deal the league put out yesterday or the season is done like dinner!  I am going to bed good night leafers!!!

I heard the PA asked for more revenue sharing and the NHL said no, they won’t even help themselves.

Seriously, it took them 10 minutes and it’s the NHLPA “that’s not speaking the same language”, the NHL isn’t even on the same planet!