Mashup: [Some Title, Does Anyone Still Care?]

by on November 22, 2012 in Morning Mashup - 1,131 Comments

Mashup: [Some Title, Does Anyone Still Care?]
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Go Jays. Is it April yet?

Ugh. Watching this lockout trudge along through a seemingly insane number of days of “still happening” may have literally ripped all the ability to feel optimism out of my mind. LOUD: “THEY’RE MEETING TODAY!” Quieter: “They met.” Really quiet: “…it did not go well.” That’s every day of an NHL fans’ life right now. Well, not every day. Just the days the two sides decide to spend uselessly in the same building.

The sad fact is, this Wednesday shouldn’t have been useless. The PA seemingly made very real concessions in what was considered a constructive proposal. The league met this with a mild dose of acknowledgement and a major dose of continued posturing. (SPOILER ALERT, JULY SELVES: They really are as stubbornly greedy as we were afraid they’d be).

Gary claims the league’s best offer is on the table and they literally can’t move (“Come to our negotiating point, aka our demands, or no hockey. That’s not a greedy hardline position, right?”). Fehr said much the same, describing the NHL’s response as, “Thanks [for the proposal], but [to end this] you have to agree with what we say.” At the same time, if Gary‘s really a truth-teller, the NHLPA have been real foot-dragging lazies when it comes to submitting comprehensive proposals in a timely fashion. It’s just become so easy to hate everyone involved. But then a player goes crazy on Twitter, and we think – ah, well. At least there’s some entertainment happening.

Gary Bettman is not the villain. Bill Daly is not the villain. The villain in this scenario is a collective. The owners, the league, the lawyers, the NHL’s negotiating team. They, together, have incited this lockout (regardless of how many times they say they didn’t) in the name of good business. They claim to want a system that allows for fair competition while ensuring the “longterm health” of the sport.

They had one. Was the league itself in major financial jeopardy before this started? No. They’re not saving the league. They’re trying to optimize it, in their favour. It’s an attempt to possibly scrape a new layer of icing off the revenue cake for themselves that they wouldn’t have had so much as a whiff of under the old agreement. “Good business“.

Good business would be resolving this amicably with no loss of revenue for anyone and no loss of value for the sport. This is no longer good business. They claim it has to happen. The “short term consequences outweigh the longterm ones” as Gary might put it. I’d love to know what they see that the rest of us don’t. The best possible PR statement the NHL could issue right now would be a candid assessment of why the changes they’ve requested actually need to be made. Have we seen one?

I think my Mashup tone has gone from apathy to spiteful. This could get really interesting by January.

It’s Thursday. Here are some links.

-Mirtle breaks down the numbers in the PA’s latest offer.

-More Mirtle. Expect the next rhetorical war to be between the league’s threatening of a canceled season and the PA’s threatening of decertification.

-Per Kyle Cicerella, Nazem Kadri is awesome again.

-Players did not react well to Wednesday’s developments via social media. Jeff O’Neill Whoever hacked Jeff O’Neill’s account took it…pretty far.

-Here’s the main TSN article on Wednesday’s session. Pertinent quotes as such. During his press scrum video, Gary laments that Fehr talked to the press at midday while the NHL was reviewing the PA offer. Called it not very “constructive.” Let me say that again. While talking about the lockout in a press scrum, Gary lamented that people talk about the lockout in press scrums.

-Via TLN, can Stuart Percy make the WJHC roster?

 

 

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  • keon

    Regardless of Burke`s bluster, it does sound very encouraging

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  • djamon

    Yeah, it was a great pick. But was that the point of the article? Or was it whether Burke did this kid a disservice by BS’ing the media?

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  • wiski

    Ya but was he BS’ing?

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  • http://www.afc.co.uk Scottish Leaf

    Drouin & MacKinnon with another assist each

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  • djamon

    I sure hope so. lol Otherwise we should throw out all the scouts we have working.

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  • wiski

    Are you watching the game?

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  • wiski

    In the subway series game he clearly out played murry and yak.

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  • http://www.afc.co.uk Scottish Leaf

    Listening to it bud 

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  • wiski

    I found a good web site for that.
    http://www.hockeywebcasts.com/

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  • http://www.afc.co.uk Scottish Leaf

    That’s spooky, that’s the site I found :)

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  • wiski

    LOL

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  • djamon

    Then he must be better for sure! To Hell with the past 3 years of evaluations.

    Rielly may, when all is said and done, end up the better player. There’s a lot left to be written with their careers. But to say that your staff had him ranked #1 when every other scouting service had Yak #1 (and from what I read every other team did too) tells me you think you’re the smartest guy in hockey. Ego.

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  • keon

    Type your comment here

    lol

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  • wiski

    We all thought he was BS’ing when he said it, Rielly just seems to be proving us wrong. lol 

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  • newkb

    I’d take him at #5 again, that’s for sure…

    But then again, I drink.

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  • djamon

    He was a great pick at 5 for sure. I wanted Galy but knew he wouldn’t fall. Then I wanted Grigo because he was so damn talented. But this kid looks fantastic and I’m very happy we have him.

    We all drink…we’re Leaf fans.

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  • http://www.afc.co.uk Scottish Leaf

    MacKinnon with a goal now, Mooseheads up 4-2

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  • newkb

    How bout them Jays?  Until these failures (NHL/NHLPA) understand that without fans neither side will have any money at all, I’m going to cheer for a league that has no cap, no recent work stoppages, and where the teams with more money can use it to their advantage.

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  • keon

    The will be devastated by injuries and will finish last… again

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  • wiski

    Grigo sliding in the draft seems to have lit a fire under his ass, cause he is ripping it up in the Q this year. If we picked him a 5 I wonder if he be the same player.

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  • wiski

    You guys watching the vanier cup? Last year was an instant classic, this should be a good one round 2.

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  • newkb

    He was, caught me completely off guard, but I knew of him…he was a complete dark horse to me.  I am glad they rolled the dice on this kid.

    Drinking is mandatory as a Leaf fan….it’s one way reality can be altered.  Well, unless Bon is on here, he’ll know another way…..

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  • newkb

    Thanks, I was getting far too optimistic.  I needed that….

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  • http://www.afc.co.uk Scottish Leaf

    Usually when I watch the Leafs I’m drunk as I roll home from wherever I’ve been on a night out, crash on my bed and watch the Leafs, it makes games more fun watching it when you’re hammered.

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  • http://www.bluechipprospects.blogspot.ca Blue Chip Prospects

    Evening, gents!  I’ve opened a new thread for the Moose Jaw / Edmonton game tonight.  Looking forward to it.  http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2012/11/23/moose-jaw-warriors-edmonton-oil-kings-open-thread/ 

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