Leafs bring back Orr for 2 more years

Leafs bring back Orr for 2 more years

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Colton Orr

The most controversially debated 5-6 minute hockey player on Twitter, Colton Orr, has been re-signed for 2 years at $925,000 per season. Not overly surprising given Randy Carlyle has always and will always feel there is a need for an enforcer on his roster, a philosophy Dave Nonis is seemingly on board with.

Assistant General Manager Claude Loiselle hopped on TSN radio shortly after the signing was announced and had this to say about Orr:

In Orr’s defence, after his demotion last year he did cut weight and improve his footspeed and conditioning to the point where he could keep up with the play and forecheck more effectively this past season. He still is no threat to contribute secondary offense and has been known to kill breakouts with poor puck skills. Of course, the primary reason for the signing is far more to do with what Orr does with his fists, and the usefulness of that contribution is a hotly debated topic to say the least. The next question becomes – does Nonis now re-sign Frazer McLaren as well?

An important note – if Orr winds up in the minors again, his cap hit will not count against the cap under the new CBA, as it is below $950,000.

In other news, Drew MacIntyre, the goaltender who saved the Marlies season after signing a PTO contract in February, has been re-upped on a two-way contract to start for the Marlies/serve as the third string goaltender for the organization next season.

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459 comments
HeatherRickAkin
HeatherRickAkin

I know...I think I value Frattin more than many Leaf fans, but he is exactly what we don't have a lot of. He is big and can play big, and he has a nose for the net, and can finish. I wouldn't say flat out I wouldn't trade him to get a shot at MacKinnon (or Barkov) , but theres other guys I would move ahead of Frattin.  . MacArthur, Bozak, Grabbo , Colborne, any Marlie other than Rielly . I doubt MacKinnon is there at #3, so that's not a consideration. Barkov is good I guess,  and Drouin is an absolute colbra . Likely just wishful thinking, but time will tell. 

flappypaddle
flappypaddle

I wish they would have given a youngster a shot like devane or ryan to grab two off the top of my head or even broll since they said he was ready last year. Its confusing msg to me same with mcintyre is he going to get a shot over owuya?

Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

Good morning Everyone, gonna be a good weekend here, Hockey Talk, the Sun is out and its RibFest here ! 

 Come on Nonis. make a Trade ! 

mcloki
mcloki

Mornign Gents. I see the rumour mill is being stoked quite well. Today we should be moving on to more targets the Leafs can try to use the compliance buyout on. 

Still think TB is the best bet. Though the price going back to TB seems steep, from the rumour. And NYI is always an outside possibility But are there others? 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Loric76 They happen in other sports.  I also don't think they're that big of dreams. Getting a 3rd overall pick at the cost of 2 roster players, a package of draft picks, and 30 million dollars cash is potentially a terrible deal for us. Not exactly the slam dunk it's being presented as. 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@bobwasyourdamnuncle I don't have any stats to back it up, but I would assume he does take a lot of the more difficult draws.  Bergeron in the defensive zone late in the 3rd, for example...

mcloki
mcloki

@flappypaddle if the LEafs let Orr go. What team does he end up on? Habs, Ott, Det. Buff. Pitt? Prust was a bust. And teams see the need for a player  like Orr.

mcloki
mcloki

@Mind Bomb mornign MB, Trades won't happen till after the playoffs end. We are down to 16 days  till draft so expect a bunch of minor resignings to happen over the weekend.

Burtonboy
Burtonboy

@TheCanucksnaphook @Burtonboy And Loiselle rarely reveals anything. He's really tight lipped compared to Nonis and Poulin . All lawyer speak lol. I was surprised when he said it 

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

Some possible buy out targets though I see some being settled via trade or riding out bad contracts which expire in a year or two. Dipietro, Lecavalier/Malone, Bryz/Briere, B. Richards, Leino,  Ballard/Booth/Luongo, Horcoff, Heatly, Greene/Volchenkov (NJD), Martin/Fleury, Jovonowski/Upshall, Hossa/Oduya, Greene (kings), Souray/Allen, Jones (Avs), Kaberle/Bourqe, Ward/Green (Caps), Ruutuu (Hurricanes), Samuellson (Wings), 

Burtonboy
Burtonboy

@mcloki @Mind Bomb Not sure how soon we see any signings with the Leafs very soon . Loiselle said things were very slow and everyone wants a raise lol. He said seems like no one realizes the cap is going down .

Burtonboy
Burtonboy

@Cameron19 @canuckintheuk @bobwasyourdamnuncle Reading an article just recently that said because of Blackers lack of offense in the pro's they have been concentrating on turning him into more of a shutdown defensemen . Wish I   could remember who wrote it lol.

mcloki
mcloki

@Loric76 @TheCanucksnaphook I think it does happen. The ramifications for the teams to not do it are long lasting and debilitating for those teams. Some of these contract last til 2027. Men will be back on Mars by then. Your kids will be finished University. Or it could be fixed in the next two weeks.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Loric76 @wendelsfist @TheCanucksnaphook I have a hard time seeing it actually coming true, but quite honestly, I don't see a realistic alternative for those teams.  They have to be rid of those players and they can't afford to do it themselves...

wendelsfist
wendelsfist

@Loric76 @TheCanucksnaphook This is more like the Lebda + bad prospect for Franson + Lombardi deal.   If we swap Dipeitro for Lombardi and Komisarek for Lebda, then the return has to be magnitudes greater then Franson.

Joe_17
Joe_17

@Mind Bomb @TheCanucksnaphook @Joe_17 watching some clips from E3 - big gaming conference thats just wrapping. pretty good if you're into that stuff. Working in games...im into that kind of stuff.


So yea, i read about the whole Lightening/leaf thing yesterday. pretty sweet. like you guys said - whether something happens with them or not, its nice to know that mgmt are thinking this way

Cameron19
Cameron19

@bobwasyourdamnuncle @Cameron19 For me, if you're comparing the two as if they are both options going forward (ie. if you could move Grabo and keep Bozak, or just roll with Grabo), the biggest argument for Bozak is quite simply that Carlyle prefers him. I suppose you could force Grabo on him, but he clearly didn't have the same plans for him that our previous coaching staff did, and hence, we may not see him hit the same highs....

mcloki
mcloki

@Mind Bomb @mcloki And that's going to make agents nervous. With the cap going down. Signing early into a decreasing pie might b the way to go. Pitt may have to play rookies and AHLer's just to stay under cap.

Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

@mcloki @Mind Bomb You know after Loiselle comments on eveyone wanting a Raise, I would if Mac was stupid enough to ask for one lol 

mcloki
mcloki

@Mind Bomb @mcloki Time is really short and once guys start filling roster spots things should fill up pretty quick. Leafs are now down to 11 spots to fill. 6 are RFA's, So expect resignings on all of them. That's 5 spots the Leafs need to fill the UFA. Bozak, MacA, Ryan Hamilton, Ryan O Bryan, Kostka. 

I can see them not signing one UFA. Hamiton to Edmonton, ROB to market. Bozie and MacA and Kostka gone. 

Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

@Cameron19 @Mind Bomb @Burtonboy @mcloki Good points Cam, but Management can counter with The Cap has gone down and their is less money to pay players with. In our case our UFA's have several Talent replacements on the Marlies so they should be careful

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Mind Bomb @Burtonboy @mcloki Some years it's a bit of a game of chicken.  This is just the first year in a long time where the players feel they have something substantial to negotiate with.  With all our early playoff exits, a lot of guys have previously just been happy to get a new contract...

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Once the buyouts start happening, and these guys realize they could be on the market with Lecavalier, Richards, Briere, Heatley, Havlat, and a few other names of significance, they may change their tune.