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Leafs waive John Michael Liles, 5 others

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The Maple Leafs placed John-Michael Liles, Trevor Smith, Korbinian Holzer, TJ Brennan, Troy Bodie and Drew MacIntyre on waivers at noon today. If they clear by noon tomorrow, all will join the Toronto Marlies.

Liles has been waived to save $925,000 of his $3,875,000 on the cap, which could be used to keep Morgan Rielly with the team, at least for the first nine games. It is not out of the question yet, should Rielly get sent to junior after 9 games, that Liles could return to the top 7 with the big club.

Carter Ashton looks to have grabbed a spot for opening night thanks to a great effort throughout camp. Jamie Devane may stick around to replace Frazer McLaren if he isn’t ready to play due to his pinky injury. This would require placing McLaren on the long term injury reserve. If not, Devane is on an entry-level deal and can be sent down or recalled at any time. Same goes for Ashton.

 

Here’s what the Leafs are roughly looking at for an opening day roster:

Note: Morgan Rielly’s cap hit is, effectively, not the full amount due to the bonus cushion.

FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m)
Mason Raymond ($1.000m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Carter Ashton ($1.040m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.700m) [IR] / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Colton Orr ($0.925m)
David Clarkson ($5.250m) [suspended]

DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) / Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m)
Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($2.000m)
Mark Fraser ($1.275m) / Paul Ranger ($1.000m)
Morgan Rielly ($1.744m)

GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
James Reimer ($1.800m)

OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
Buried: John-Michael Liles ($2.950m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.778% of upper limit)
Matt Frattin ($0.437m—0.5%) Ben Scrivens ($0.062m—0.1%)
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SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,525,833; BONUSES: $1,350,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $124,167

900 comments
CanuckUKinToronto
CanuckUKinToronto

So who will be sitting and how many games will Reilly play out of the first 9?  Will it be Ranger, Gards or Fraser who goes to press box in the games Reilly plays in?  and which ones? 

CanuckUKinToronto
CanuckUKinToronto

Question-  If Reilly is on the team but "loaned" from Dec through Jan to the Cdn Junior team, does he still receive an NHL salary during this period as he was "loaned" rather than demoted down to junior where he would not earn any money?

Savo43
Savo43

JVR-Bozak-Kessel

Lupul-Kadri-Raymond

Leivo-Bolland-Kulemin

Ashton-McClement-Orr

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Gunnarsson-Phaneuf

MacWilliam-Franson

Gardiner-Fraser

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Reimer/Bernier

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What about this lineup at some point in the first 10 games? 

Savo43
Savo43

Random note, but ever since Burkie left, theres been different music in between the whistles that actually matches our teams youth. Gone with are the 80's classics, and finally some tunes our young team can actually relate to. Goal song is 100x more exciting. Im 23 though so obviously my opinion will cater to the newer age of music, although i do respect all the genres and classics of each decade, its refreshing to hear something more modern. 

Savo43
Savo43

Kinda wish Leivo would dress against the Habs. Who knows what he could string together with the momentum he gained after that last game. Could find a home sooner than expected given the opportunity. I'm sure it won't be long until he's back up with the bigs though. 

Bring the Cup Home
Bring the Cup Home

i'm predicting that in two years from now, franson will be a better D-Man than Dion. 

MikeGartner11
MikeGartner11

I wonder if Liles goes Orr or Connolly in the minors. TC put the nail in his career coffin and the sheriff resurrected his 

.JVR.
.JVR.

I know we've all be talking about either having Gardiner/Franson & Fraser/Ranger or Gardiner/Ranger & Fraser/Franson as our bottom two pairings, but what about the following?

Ranger   -   Franson

Gardiner   -   Fraser

maximus_asinus
maximus_asinus

I said a few months ago (even posted it here) that I thought Colborne was being poorly managed and wanted him traded to put his career back on the right path. Now I am eating those words, now that he is gone I wish he never left. The team looks pretty weak coming out on opening night without Clarkson and dressing Devane and Ashton. I really hope our defence tightens up and we get some superb goaltending from the first 10 games or so.

Kulemin the Gang
Kulemin the Gang

The liles situation

As we know John Michael will be this years version of komisarek/finger.

Moving forward the way I see it barring an improbable trade

JML stays buried and we either buy him out nxt summer 2M 4 yrs

Or take on like 2M in trade only 2 yr hit

.JVR.
.JVR.

So, I'm guessing Kadri and Raymond will be playing together on Tuesday night, considering they were paired together for both games against Detroit.

I heard somewhere that Carlyle likes having pairs, so Bozak/Kessel, Kadri/Raymond, Bolland/Kulemin.

Which lines do JVR, Lupul and Ashton fit on?

Cameron19
Cameron19

Djamon, after our conversation earlier today, I drew up the numbers for some of the heavy hitters in the East, and I must say, our cap situation looks appalling compared to almost all of them.  You were right that Pittsburgh isn't going to be much better off, but almost all the other money teams (Boston, Montreal, New York, Philadelphia) are going to have barrels of cap add to their roster and address weaknesses. And I did this assuming optimal resigns for us, and expensive resigns for them (i.e. Subban at 7.5, Callahan at 5.5, Girardi at 5.0, etc...).

CanuckUKinToronto
CanuckUKinToronto

The question is - have mgmt already decided that Reilly stays for the season and NOT just the 9 games.. if he stays just the 9 games, then he would probably play in 8 of them .... if he is here for the season, he may only play 4-5 of the first 9 games so he gets use to the game.... 

But if and when he does play, who sits?  Ranger, Gards or Fraser?

TMLConnor
TMLConnor

@CanuckUKinToronto Dont think they confirmed any lines yet, besides top line which is obvi. But who knows about defensive pairings

TMLConnor
TMLConnor

@Savo43 Yeah not bad for first ten, Id probably match Franson with Fraser, and Ranger with Gardiner most likely. 

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Savo43 Not tough enough and Ramger has not lost his spot imo

maximus_asinus
maximus_asinus

@Bring the Cup Home Dion is currently on a level above Franson, but he has all the pieces to be a great top line defenseman. He just needs to learn how to put it all together (which he is well on his way to doing).

DarthBurke
DarthBurke

@.JVR.It looks like Gardiner/Franson & Fraser/Ranger but I can see Fraser/Franson being a good fallback pair. I just don't like Fraser in the 3/4 pairing though - best to utilize him to his strengths as 5/6 and PK.

GreekGod
GreekGod

@maximus_asinus 

Guess you missed the part where the Leafs were missing Gardiner, Lupul, Frattin, Reimer etc at points during last season and still kicked ass and made it into the playoffs. 

Colborne wasn't being poorly managed... He was doing a poor job fighting for a spot on the Leafs roster. Guys like Ashton and Devane who you seem to be so down on have shown more heart in this pre season and skill then Colborne did. 

Jordan29
Jordan29

@Kulemin the Gang We wont have to care next year with the cap going up. Liles isnt garbage. Hes only down because of cap reasons 

Reversethecurse13
Reversethecurse13

@.JVR. Barring injuries, I don't see JVR coming off top line, while Kadri can rejuvenate Lupul who looked off in preseason.

There is 3rd and 4th line wing holes, and i'm guessing Ashton fits onto the 3rd, while someone like Devane hops onto the 4th while McLaren is injured.

djamon
djamon

@Cameron19 Just as a quick look...

Boston - 58m with 15 players, only 4 NHL d-men signed.

Montreal - 43m with 15 players, lost of money but only 1 d-man signed.

NYR - 30m with only 7 players signed. Lots of money, but almost their entire core is FA.

Philly - 57m with 16 players signed. No goalies under contract, but not terrible.

Toronto - 34m with 10 players signed. Some big guys to be signed for sure, but 2.5m coming free.

Reversethecurse13
Reversethecurse13

@Cameron19 Like MB just said, if we've had so much trouble filling a position such as 1C, then why would our opponents have any easier time filling their holes, such as Pronger's hole in Philly, will Boston overcome a decline of Chara, you either hit or miss with Carey Price in Scab land, in NYR if Sather is still running the team, i'd say history shows he's an idiot....so yea, i'll take our young skilled core of: Kessel, Kadri, JVR, Lupul, Phaneuf, Franson, Gardiner, and Reimer.

If you keep that core, we'll be top of the league.

Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

@Cameron19  Add who Cam, you are running on the theory these teams will be able to add what they want, need, like shopping for groceries. Cap, is all well and good with something to spend it on. 

TMLConnor
TMLConnor

@CanuckUKinToronto Most likely Ranger, because last one in sorta thing. But thats just my best guess, unless he dangles Carlyles pants off haha.

Savo43
Savo43

@maximus_asinus @Bring the Cup Home Trying to think of the things Dion does a level above Franson. Can't find them. Love Dion, but not much separates them outside of their track record. Dions track record is longer, and more glorified, whereas Franson has been undermined his entire career due to his quieter nature, and due to those who had jobs entitled to them on the top lines before his arrival (Suter, Weber, now Phaneuf and Gunnarsson). Doesn't mean he isn't as steady though bc imo he is. Both are crucial in our teams success however, and for that the comparison really doesn't matter until we have to make a decision on who we need to keep (if it comes down to that). 

.JVR.
.JVR.

@Reversethecurse67

So, until McLaren is healthy and Clarkson is done serving his suspension, we'll have something like this?

JVR   -   Bozak   -   Kessel

Lupul   -   Kadri   -   Raymond

Ashton   -   Bolland   -   Kulemin

Devane   -   McClement   -   Orr


When they return, I hope to see Clarkson join Lupul and Kadri on the 2nd line, with Ashton dropping to the fourth line and Raymond taking Ashton's spot on the third line.



Cameron19
Cameron19

@djamon @Cameron19 I assumed a high cap of 71 million and filled in some basic resigns that are likely to happen:

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Boston:

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lucic (6.00)krejci (5.25)______________

marchand (4.50)bergeron (6.50)eriksson (4.25)

smith (1.50)kelly (3.00)soderberg (1.08)

paille (1.30)campbell (1.60)______________

_____________

chara (6.9215)boychuk (3.3675)

seidenberg (4.00)krug (2.50)

mcquaid (1.5675)hamilton (0.875)

______________

rask (7.00)subban (0.925)

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CAP HIT: 60.6375

CAP SPACE: 10.3635

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Remember - Savard doesn't really count towards their total.

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Montreal:

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pacioretty (4.50)plekanec (5.00)briere (4.00)

galchenyuk (0.925)desharnais (3.50)bourque (3.33)

prust (2.50)eller (2.50)gallagher (0.685)

moen (1,85)__________________________

white (0.575)

gorges (3.90)subban (7.50)

tinordi (0.87)emelin (3.00)

beaulieu (0.925)diaz (2.75)

_____________

price (6.50)budaj (1.40)

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CAP HIT: 56.71

CAP SPACE: 14.29

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All key resigns, accounted for, and tons of money to spare.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Reversethecurse67 @Cameron19 They don't have to be addressing their most major weaknesses to improve while we stagnate or decline though. They might all be making 2 or 3 minor improvements to their roster - kinda like we did this off-season. 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Mind Bomb @Cameron19 Well some of them will be able to add through free agency.  It's true that it's sort of a dead market, but we got Clarkson last year, and one of those teams will likely add Cammalleri, Stastny, Miller, Vanek, maybe even Bolland if we get too pressed. But with the cap space, they'll also be free to use their accumulated assets to make a trade - next summer's Bobby Ryan.  They'll also be able to absorb all the veterans looking for homes again - the likes of Iginla, Whitney, Alfredsson, etc...

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No one team is likely to take an astronomical leap forward but collectively, they'll all be adding and addressing weaknesses, and we'll be replacing veterans with rookies. 

TMLConnor
TMLConnor

@Burtonboy @CanuckUKinToronto @TMLConnor Hmm not sure how it'll work then, I guess if hes here for the season, doubts we will just let him leave for 2 months for the world Juniors. Way i see it, but if not, He'll definitely be there with ole Mcdavid and them 

DJGLENN22
DJGLENN22

@Cameron19 @Mind Bomb @djamon .........Gee Cam when did you become a big Habs fan.........starting to come out of the closet I see. Cam's true colors starting to show

djamon
djamon

@Cameron19 Is Markov retiring? Other than that I have no issue with the Habs, except that team you priced is garbage. It's cheap...but garbage.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Mind Bomb @Cameron19 @djamon Their defense was heavily injured most of last season.  I actually really like Emelin, and Tinordi and Beaulieu are good pieces. 

Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

@Cameron19 @Mind Bomb @djamon  Regular Season success bro, even if they squeak in, they are still a first round exit. There Defense is not awe inspiring, and that team only goes as far as Price takes them



Cameron19
Cameron19

@Mind Bomb @Cameron19 @djamon As much as I hate them, they had a lot of success with this roster, so presumably they would be even better off being able to add 14 million worth of veterans and trade acquisitions...right?

Reversethecurse13
Reversethecurse13

@Cameron19 Yea the elephant in the room: 1C....I think our pieces are extremely comparable to Chicago's.

More importantly, i'd take the Leafs roster over every East team for the next 5 years, except Boston and Pittsburgh.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Reversethecurse67 @Cameron19 But Chicago has pieces that we don't.  Having Toews gives them the ability to do that. If we had a Toews in our organization, absolutely, I would be fine with rotating in lesser players.  But we don't - we're still missing some pieces. And the only way to get more pieces is to keep translating assets into better assets so you can either make a huge trade, or move up big time at the draft. 

Reversethecurse13
Reversethecurse13

@Cameron19 Even if you thought that a future predicament would handcuff Nonis' ability to improve the team as he sees fit, to be concerned with minor additions, both on our team and other teams, is pretty inconsequential imo:
Chicago should be a good example of maintaining a strong young core, while rotating inexpensive but role-aware depth.

Mind Bomb
Mind Bomb

@Cameron19 @Mind Bomb  I like our Chances moving forward provided we sign Kessel. At the end of the Day, its high end talent that is elusive. And our Top 6 is set except for Tavares :) Most any team would be thrilled to have Kes JVR, Kadri, all 25 or younger. Our Goalies are both young and high end, and our D is full of promise.

 Book your Hotel Cam, and plan the parade !