Deadline Primer: Rangers backing out of Nash talks

It appears as though the price for Rick Nash has climbed to an unattainable level for some clubs, including even the most aggressive of all; the New York Rangers.

Darren Dreger had this to say only a few minutes ago:

Hard to blame NYR for not blowing up team to make Nash trade. For sake of deadline, let’s hope CBJ softens to keep possibility of trade open.

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NYR wasn’t willing to pay price established for Nash prior to today + today CBJ asked for more than they were originally after

Now, I’m not sure if this indicates that the Rangers’ most current offer was matched and Howson went back to Sather to see if he wanted to go even higher. But that could be the case as it appears there are still others out there who remain interested in Nash.

Both the Predators and Leafs have yet to be cleared from the Nash talks, so we’ll see how that pans out in the next 20 hours or so.

It’s been reported that Toronto will not unload Gardiner to get this deal done. Personally, I’m baffled that they’re still rumored to be involved at all. Dreger mentioned earlier this morning that the Leafs and Jackets haven’t talked in days, so I’m sure it’s quite possible that things fizzle out.

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  • 4evrblue

    I don’t think it’s something out of nothing, the rumors have been there for a long time now and as they say, wheres theres smoke…..

  • hometeam

    how long is stastny signed for atm

  • 4evrblue

    2 seasons after this one.

  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    Depends on how things progress.  Obviously I’m not saying to tolerate failure indefinitely.  If we fail this year, Wilson will be fired and a more defensively oriented coach will be brought in, and we’ll go from there.

  • Cactus

    new thread up

  • Mr.Big

     ok question then becomes what if Burke WILL NOT fire his friend Wilson he did get an extension correct?

  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    This is my concern too, but I think that we don’t give players enough credit for their ability to be reasonable in these situations.  Stastny was given that contract because that was the market for his production at the time he signed the deal.  He did produce at a PPG pace for a few seasons to earn that deal – it’s not like they handed him that for a 55 point effort.
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    More than that, Burke never seems to have trouble with contracts, and yet we seem to be an extremely paranoid fanbase.  He always gets guys for less than we think.  The only one I can think of that he overpaid was Schenn, and even then, lots of people thought he would get 4 or 4.5 – again based on the fact that Komi was being paid 4.5.
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    It would be different if Stastny was a free agent and Burke gave him 6.6 million.  That’s when you screw up your dressing room over money – like Buffalo did with Ehrhoff and Leino.  I think the best way to make our guys want to stick around at reasonable rates is to build an excellent team for them to play on. 

  • hometeam

    SJ, LA, BOS, PHI, DET, VAN, NASH off hand just doesnt have the wheels, I’m not saying he doesnt have a place on the team just not the reins we have given him,  he gets bailed out by his partner on a nightly basis

  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    Burke has all but said he will fire him.  Wilson himself said the extension is basicaly a bonus to keep him from becoming a lame duck coach down the stretch.  It was a “golden handshake” and nothing more.  Burke’s answer to that question (will you fire Wilson if he fails) was “none of your business”.  In other words, yes, he certainly will.  Burke does not have the insane loyalty to Wilson the fans think he does.

  • hometeam

    BB pretty much said a couple days ago that Wilson is expected to make the dance this year or….. Not many coaches coach till their contract is up, the buds have lotsa money for severence

  • http://www.hockey-nerd.com Cameron

    He is top pairing on all of those teams, except maybe Nashville.  And even then, I suspect he challenges Weber for top dawg if he gets to play next to Suter.  Your comment about wheels baffles me. He is quite quick, and easily one of the best puck rushing D in the league.

  • Mattmark

    Having lived through the case of Yanick Perreault, you’ll forgive me if I remain somewhat sceptical about Leafs’ asset management skills.  Leafs traded Perreault away for a 4th-rounder, then traded Jason Podollan and a 3rd-rounder to get him back.  A few years later they brought in Robert Reichel—the one European who couldn’t skate—and, deciding that Reichel was ever-so-slightly better than Perreault, failed to renew Perreault’s contract.  Perreault—an excellent faceoff man and decent scorer who compiled over 500 points in his NHL career—immediately bolted to Montreal (for no return) and remained a thorn in the side of Leafs and their fans for years… until, incredibly, Leafs’ management gave up Brendan Bell and a 2nd-rounder to re-acquire him.
     
    Losing a player—any player, even Boyce—on waivers obviously doesn’t compare with that fiasco… but it isn’t a sign of astute asset management either.

  • wiski

    New thread up boys

  • Kinger

    Wooo big 23 now fellas, also if Nash is outta the question then I guess it’s Brown or Ott

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nelson-Delgado/100000651735609 Nelson Delgado

    I think the Leafs might have the best bid right now and have 3 first round selections in the mix. If you were trying to land Eric Staal, or Getzlaf wouldn’t they be worth 3 first rounders?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nelson-Delgado/100000651735609 Nelson Delgado

    There are a lot of people that follow the wood grain theory of building through the draft. Well… Burke said he’s not following that and he doing what he did in Vancouver and Anaheim. So if I could see my team hoist a cup in two years instead of waiting four years to let Kadri, Colborne, Schenn (4th shutdown defenseman) blossom. Schenn is great but we have 2 other Schenn equivalents with better hands. Their names are Franson and Aulie. Franson has a blister of a shot and Aulie is calm on the puck. So Schenn can pack it up. We all like Schenn but, winning a cup is not about being best buddies, it’s about realizing a dream. Ask Wendel or Darryl or Dougie if they would trade a great hockey relationship for a chance to hoist the cup in the finals. They would say, I’ll fly over later and have beer with my buddies after I win the cup.  Lets stop clinging to players like they are your friends and focus on the goal. You got to give up assets to get assets and the coin was flipped, We would want 3 first rounders for Phil Kessel who by the way is in front of two handfuls of (talented players we would all love to have) in the points in the league.

    The reason why the team has lost so many games is because the Leafs have lost their momentum, are lacking confidence and are getting nervous about being traded. All that is compounded on top of the 2nd youngest team in the league. If that’s not enough, it’s all happening in Toronto! Imagine being that player with a dozen mic’s in your face asking you why you sucked or why your team sucked. Makes you wish you were in small market team like Nashville.

    Leafs are in good (not great) shape and it takes a slump like this to bring out the adversity in a team.

    If there is a team I would be worried about coaching it’s the Marlies once Colborne and Kadri are gone. I hope our OHL prospects will be ready to help when Dallas Eakins gets stripped of his talented forwards. That will be the true test for Scrivens.

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