Leafs sign Jonathan Bernier to 2-year, $5.8 million deal (2.9m AAV)

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Jonathan Bernier will earn $1,100,000 more than James Reimer next season despite being considerably less proven. We’re almost in a position now where we’re hoping Bernier takes over the number one spot. I’m not sure how I feel about that.

The Leafs have now forfeited Ben Scrivens, Matt Frattin, a 2nd round pick and about $2.5 million in cap space (Bernier contract + 500k retained salary – Scrivens contract) to add Bernier to the fold. Guess he better live up to the hype.

The price makes some sense when you consider Bernier would have been very vulnerable to an offer sheet if left unsigned much longer. That hurts Nonis’ leverage in this negotiation and is likely why Bernier was the first notable RFA signed by the team. That was part of the risk the Leafs took on by acquiring Bernier.

The Leafs have 10 million in cap space remaining with RFAs Nazem Kadri, Cody Franson, Carl Gunnarsson, Joe Colborne and Mark Fraser left to re-sign.

Bernier will be an RFA at the expiration of his new deal (July 1, 2015).

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Alec Brownscombe is the founder of MapleLeafsHotStove.com, where he has written daily about the Leafs since September of 2008. He was also the editor of the 2009-12 Maple Leafs Annuals. You can contact him at [email protected]
  • flappypaddle

    Im am just flatout disgusted by this move. Just shaking my head he should have gotten at mostthe same as reims.
    The past two days have hurt the Leafs imo. The Grabo buyout to sign Bozak to about 700kper to much again imo. But this deal just hurts I truly wish reims the best and i hope he gets dealt so he dosent have to put up with this bs he deserves better then this.
    Im really left scratching my head.

    • rustynail

      flappypaddle and a UFA at the end of the contract, worst of all worlds

  • Komas Taberle

    Let’s be realistic here, Reimer is a good goalie but a flawed good goalie, he gives out to many rebounds, loses sight of the puck , is slow going post to post and can’t handle a puck outside his crease and can’t catch worth a damn.
    Bernier has a pedigree, a 1st rounder, who goes post to post quicker than 90 % of the goalies in the league, he has outstanding balance and can read the game like nobody we have, he is brilliant at handing the puck which helps our defense immensely and has a wicked glove hand. Johnathan Quick who is one of the top goalies in the world was quoted as saying Johnathon Bernier will be his equal in no time, all he needs is to play.
    I have watched him very closely he is a much, much better goalie than Reimer and you will see when the games start for real in October.

  • NatBornKilleR93

    Really wow

  • JMAC17

    A bit high, but he is supposed to be the real deal, give him till December before you judge the deal.

  • thebigbokowski

    Bernier is gunna be a stud. Unfortunate situation for Riemer though. To bad, i really liked the kids attitude.

  • Dangle_My_Berries

    it seems like everything written about the new leafs aquisitions has such a negative undertone to it, its like we hope they fail. We should really be happy that we have such talent fighting for jobs on our team, its only a good situation…

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Dangle_My_Berries I remember a time when we were happy getting new talent, now it seems people get hung up on the business side too much.

    • ShotgunCharlie

      Dangle_My_Berries well…which of the moves made deserves confidence? Slotting Bozak as a 1C again?  Signing an unproven goalie to a 2.9 million contract? Signing a 40pt winger to a 7 year deal for over 5 million?

      • Dangle_My_Berries

        ShotgunCharlie Dangle_My_Berries Bozak did centre one of the most productive lines in the NHL. We signed arguably one of the most sought after goalies  that didnt have a full time gig, and Clarkson is a big upgrade on Frattin. Lets let them play a game first before you send them to hell.

        • ShotgunCharlie

          Dangle_My_Berries ShotgunCharlie well…if you like building your team on question marks….you have chosen the right city

        • Dangle_My_Berries

          ShotgunCharlie Dangle_My_Berries Reimer was a big question mark a year ago….

        • ShotgunCharlie

          Dangle_My_Berries ShotgunCharlie yes and we tried to get a goalie in to help alleviate that problem.

        • Dangle_My_Berries

          ShotgunCharlie Dangle_My_Berries im just reserve judgement for now and give the new guys the benefit of the doubt. I wanna give them a chance

    • Holmboi

      Dangle_My_Berries i have to agree with you..always to much negativity

  • Numbersgame

    Nonis was scared of an offer sheet plain and simple

    • JMAC17

      Numbersgame yeah, they are a rea risk this year…can put a team in a real pinch really quick

      • Numbersgame

        Pretty sure Philly would of offered him 5.5 mil a year for life

    • ShotgunCharlie

      Numbersgame I guess that means Kadri is next then

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ FreddyG

    “Thehttp://mapleleafshotstove.com/have now forfeitedhttp://mapleleafshotstove.com/roster/ben-scrivens/,http://mapleleafshotstove.com/roster/matt-frattin, a 2nd round pick and about $2.5 million in cap space (Bernier contract + 500k retained salary – Scrivens contract) to add Bernier to the fold. Guess he better live up to the hype.”

    Bang. Fucking. On. 
    More than just support for Reimer, to provide competition… Bernier has to come in and take over the pipes.
    James must feel completely dissed.

    • JMAC17

      @FreddyG Forget being dissed, Remier is a good goalie and will play some where if not here.
      Its about winning…Bernier gives us a another solid goalie…battle it out

      • ClarkHitsBell

        These guys are pros. Screw their feelings, it’s about winning now and if Reimer doesn’t get that he wouldn’t be where he is now. This will make him better and in turn make the Leafs better.

  • MaxwellHowe

    Nonis feared an offer sheet and the needless loss of Frattin, Scrivens and a pick.  That’s my thinking on this.  Bernier had him by the balls.  Of course, Nonis had handed them to him on a platter

  • Mind Bomb

    I got Laughed at when I said Bernier could get 4 mil on a long term contract, he got just under 3 on a 2 yr. We are not signing all our RFA’s for under 11 mil

  • Loric76

    Hey after giving up Scrivens Frattin a 2nd & 500k of retained salary it’d be a shame if they didn’t believe in this kid enough to appoint him.  He’s the #1 going forward, lets get used to it.

    • Loric76

      in for a penny, in for a pound basically.

    • Cameron19

      Loric76 Whether he’s earned it or not…

      • Loric76

        Cameron19 Loric76 we were already way past that before the signing, that’s all I’m saying.

  • lukethenuke

    Real talk: Reimer has played unreal, and quite honestly, over his head and potential id say, much higher than expectations.  Whether its injuries or the consistency that managment feels wont let him continue this seasons success (poor rebound control and slow lateral movement), they obviously see it in Bernier.  Whether its right or not.  Reimer has proved to be a top 15 goalie… wheter he can keep it up or not, debateble and no one is right or wrong (but managment cleary doesnt think so).  Bernier, can exceed this top 15 quality goaltending and play top 10/5 goaie… much better than Reimer once he has the net i feel

    • lukethenuke

      agree or not, this is the situation wheter you feel its earned or whatever

  • Leafs_17

    guess by the what i read on hear that we shouldn’t of done anything this off season and just stayed the course because we made the playoffs in a 48 game season

  • OTL

    From friends who have seen him play, Bernier will stop A LOT of pucks.  Reimer being Reimer, will challenge Bernier and they will BOTH fair well this season.

  • NatBornKilleR93

    We’re all crazy leaf fans around here ….and I think we are better off now then we were when we took Boston to 7 …just saying ….two number 1 goalies who will push eachother is awesome news for us …the right man for the job will rise to the top and we will get top assets for the other ….I have faith our tending situation will be handled much better then the van city situation

    • ShotgunCharlie

      NatBornKilleR93 problem is…being beat down by everyone for the last 20 years kind of takes it’s toll.

      • NatBornKilleR93

        Agreed but were on our way to being the team we all love to watch

        • NatBornKilleR93

          Great tending and heart and soul players combined with some skill…not far from Kessel being named one of the best pure goal scores in the league…bollard and clarkson will go through hell for the leaf on their chest

  • wendelsway1

    Hey Guys…..here’s a novel idea…..how about we let our new players and team play some games before we start with all the negatives…….I’m thinking this team will surprise quite a few fans, in a good way.

    • Alec Brownscombe

      wendelsway1 So shutdown the site till October? How will we fill the time!?

      • Loric76

        Alec Brownscombe wendelsway1 I hear it’s warm outside this time of year.  Quick, someone go check, if you can remember how to open the door.

        • gunner_36

          Loric76 Alec Brownscombe wendelsway1 Just don’t turn on the AC. Far easier.

        • wendelsway1

          Loric76 Alec Brownscombe wendelsway1 Did that about three weeks ago and ended up at the cottage with no internet…..oh the horror of it all….lol

        • Loric76

          wendelsway1 Loric76 Alec Brownscombe wow how did you survive?

        • wendelsway1

          Loric76 wendelsway1 Alec Brownscombe I drank and puffed…….a lot…lol  :)

      • wendelsway1

        Alec Brownscombe wendelsway1 Shut down the site, you say?……absolutely not!…….we never seem to have trouble finding things to talk about…..whether Leafs related or not…lol  :)

    • OTL

      wendelsway1 agreed!

    • Cameron19

      wendelsway1 There’s nothing wrong with the team or the additions.  It’s long term impacts of certain decisions that our troubling.

    • wiski

      wendelsway1 we missed those calming thoughts of yours WW 😉

    • dlb eh

      wendelsway1 
      or at least see what chips fall next?  SITE STAYS OPEN!  i saved MHLS, i had to

  • Cameron19

    https://twitter.com/mirtlehttps://twitter.com/mirtle/status/353333054678380545
    Other than Fasth, has there been another netminder with this few NHL GP getting nearly $3-million?

    • MaxwellHowe

      Cameron19 The offer sheet was coming Cameron.  Feaster has been drafting it since noon.

      • Cameron19

        MaxwellHowe Cameron19 I don’t doubt it.  Bernier had us over a barrel.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/reporterchrishttps://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/353332329630015489
    The https://twitter.com/search?q=%23leafs&src=hash will pay their goalie duo just $4.7-million next season — a number 12 individual goalies surpass alone.

  • Belfour20

    He’s actually not a FA after the second season, he’ll still be an RFA thats why they signed him to 2 years and not 3.

    • rustynail

      Belfour20 whew

  • dlb eh

    HOW and WHEN are we going to re-sign FRASER???!?!?!!  we have no more money.   we’re so poor.  POOR US.

    • JMAC17

      dlb eh Liles is going to be moved

      • ShotgunCharlie

        JMAC17 dlb eh i think you are right

        • JMAC17

          ShotgunCharlie JMAC17 dlb eh 
          Something have to happen.
          If Kadri gets 3.5, Gunner and Franson around 2.9 and Colborne around 900K we will have less than a million in cap space..
          And that is with guys like Brenner and Holzer in the line up.

      • dlb eh

        JMAC17 dlb eh 
        possibly.  funny how he helped recruit Clarkson, but the coach decided to not dress him.
        maybe they’ll keep him until Gunnar and Franson are settled….or unsettled

    • B_Leaf

      dlb eh 
      We better get Fraser back

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        B_Leaf dlb eh They’ll get it done.

  • weslorn

    Remember he was to become an unrestricted free agent, the deal was made
    to go to toronto, he wanted these numbers, they worked on this deal 6
    months prior to the trade.  If he was resigned thats the number L.A.
    would have had to pay or lose him for nothing.  Leaf fans better get
    used to what it takes to be a winner…  YOU MUST CREATE COMPETITION FOR
    JOBS TO BE SUCCESSFUL….no more country club atmosphere, no more
    coddling of your faves, just because you like them.

    • dlb eh

      weslorn 
      way to jump in there and remind us all of what (some of us) were bitching and moaning about a year ago at this very moment LOL

    • Cameron19

      weslorn Bernier had 3 more RFA years left…

  • Wilbur

    Welcome to bi-polarville :)

  • B_Leaf

    I think this Bernier deal is a bad move…rather Frattin and Scrivens

    • whalz

      yuck…………..why? bc Bernier signed for 2.9? thats a joke,,,,,,alot ot teams were chasing this guy and we got him for a 3rd line winger a backup goalie and a 2nd……we stole Bernier…
      if he plays lights out you going to admit your wrong? lol

      • B_Leaf

        @whalz 
        I have always admitted when I’m wrong…no problem…hope I have to

        • whalz

          k cool…im writing this down……….lol
          i love this deal, apparently hes a stud goalie with a ton of upside,,
          lets see how he makes out this season

  • JMAC17

    What do you guys think Kadri is going to need to get done?  $3MM?

    • Cameron19

      JMAC17 Depends on years. 3 would get you 2 years.

    • ShotgunCharlie

      JMAC17 at this rate…..3.5

  • Alec Brownscombe

    Wow a rare error by capgeek.. he’s an rfa in july, 2015… not UFA. Sorry.

    • Belfour20

      Alec Brownscombe ya thats what i said down low

  • MaxwellHowe

    So now we can talk about the return we will get from the Oilers and the Flames when we trade them Reimer

    • Cameron19

      MaxwellHowe Sadly, they have nothing of interest….

      • MaxwellHowe

        Cameron19 MaxwellHowe They always have high first round picks..

  • Wilbur

    Leafs are horrible. Management team is horrible. Organization is horrible. Everything sucks. All these moves in the last few days are the worst in the history of the NHL. Whatever will we do? Makes the ’80s look like a walk in the park. However will we watch them this year?

    • ShotgunCharlie

      Wilbur funny how we are all at extremes with our opinions isn’t it?

    • Numbersgame

      Whatever we are a much stronger team so far you must be a sens fan

      • dlb eh

        Numbersgame 
        lol, he’s using his sarcasm card this time.  Wilbur’s happy today.  Tomorrow…another story…

        • ShotgunCharlie

          dlb eh Numbersgame lol

    • astrit07

      Wilbur come on man that is extreme we have to wait for season to start first

    • OTL

      Wilbur How many people from the front office have left since Burke left?  Seems like it’s the same management team….

    • Wilbur

      Ummm…I was being sarcastic. You guys have lost it so much today you can’t tell when someone is being sarcastic :)

      • OTL

        Wilbur Apologies….you’re right…it’s been a LONG day.

  • Cameron19

    I can’t wait until people actually watch Bernier play and realize he’s not perfect either…

    • lukethenuke

      Cameron19 not any less perfect than Reimer Id say

    • ShotgunCharlie

      Cameron19 His new nickname can be the monster

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Cameron19 The way Reimer has been reduced to the most ‘overperforming’ young goaltender to ever play in the NHL, I’d assume it’s a matter of time as well.

      • Cameron19

        Alec Brownscombe Cameron19 Right now he’s just so perfect because the media says so – like Phaneuf before we destroyed his reputation with our endless bitching…

        • MLHS_Luke

          Cameron19 Alec Brownscombe My barber tried to convince me that we should have bought out Phaneuf instead of Grabbo… some people.

        • Alec Brownscombe

          MLHS_Luke Cameron19 Alec Brownscombe There’d be a group here that would find a way to rationalize that within about 15 minutes.
          “Let’s face it.. Phaneuf was overpaid.”

        • Cameron19

          Alec Brownscombe MLHS_Luke Cameron19 lol, And you know who they would be…

      • ShotgunCharlie

        Alec Brownscombe Cameron19 reminds me of when we got cujo and potvin went into the abyss.

        • Xxxxxnew

          ShotgunCharlie Alec Brownscombe Cameron19 Potvin was 80-105 without a winning season the three years before Cujo came in. Cujo posted a 35-24 season his first year in net.

        • ShotgunCharlie

          Xxxxxnew ShotgunCharlie Alec Brownscombe Cameron19 um…93 baby we almost made the finals….damn that frazer

        • Xxxxxnew

          ShotgunCharlie Xxxxxnew Alec Brownscombe Cameron19 Cjuo didn’t appear until 1998.

        • ShotgunCharlie

          Xxxxxnew ShotgunCharlie Alec Brownscombe Cameron19 yeah but that team was a victim of shitty coaching.  i could be wrong but wasnt that the transition years between mike murphy and pat quinn? same squad went from one of the worst scoring teams under Murphy to one of the best under Quinn….without a roster change of any signifigance

        • Xxxxxnew

          ShotgunCharlie Xxxxxnew Alec Brownscombe Cameron19 Probably true, but I distinctly remember Potvin starting to lose his confidence well before Cujo showed up. I know Cujo sealed his fate but I think his play was suffering, maybe because of the wonky team, before that.

        • ShotgunCharlie

          Xxxxxnew ShotgunCharlie Alec Brownscombe Cameron19 i blame Murphy. he was horrible. In hindsight, it was a great move getting cujo

  • Alec Brownscombe

    Cap space now sits at 10 mill and change. Kadri, Franson, Gunnarsson, Colborne and Fraser left to resign.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Alec Brownscombe No problem mon..why you be so mad?

      • Alec Brownscombe

        ingy56 Alec Brownscombe I can’t even list the current cap situation without getting accused of being negative?
        Alright. Enough of this for the weekend.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Alec Brownscombe ingy56 Just joking, my Jamaican accent didn’t come through

        • dlb eh

          ingy56 Alec Brownscombe 
          just shut up mon.  i mean man!  (he’s got the banhammer, remember?)

        • Alec Brownscombe

          dlb eh ingy56 Alec Brownscombe lol. I usually pick up on sarcasm. That one got by me. My bad.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          dlb eh ingy56 Alec Brownscombe Ya mon…don’t want get caught in da roadblock.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Alec Brownscombe dlb eh ingy56 No worries….long day

        • dlb eh

          ingy56 Alec Brownscombe dlb eh 
          youz Jamaican ‘im craZy, mon!

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          dlb eh ingy56 Alec Brownscombe Got to go smoke the sacrament and chillax mon.

    • Mind Bomb

      Alec Brownscombe  Next year will be even more Fun Alec, imagine what Dion Kes, Kulie, Reimer will want after wining the cup

    • Glove Dropper

      Alec Brownscombe Holzer will be with the marlies which puts us closer to 11M

      • Cameron19

        Glove Dropper Alec Brownscombe Still have to replace his roster spot…

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Cameron19 Glove Dropper Alec Brownscombe Fraser

      • whalz

        i think Fraser is gone aswell
        dion
        gunner
        franson
        gards
        liles
        Brennan
        granberg
        blacker
        lots of depth

        • ClarkHitsBell

          Fraser is replaceable.

    • whalz

      something has to give here..who is going?? dion or Liles?

    • JMAC17

      Alec Brownscombe They eat up the rest right there.  Liles is out.
      Might cost us an asset to get it done, but Nonis has to move him.

    • Black_Hawk

      Alec Brownscombe Kadri Gunner and Franson will eat it all up. So dont know what we give Colborne or fraser

      • dlb eh

        Black_Hawk Alec Brownscombe 
        they’ll be happy with a tryout and a genuine piece of TML memorabilia.  i pin perhaps

  • hometeem

    Surprised we arent seeing more boz contract bashingm did i miss all that

    • Xxxxxnew

      hometeem It was back and forth this afternoon, but the talk before was him asking eight year at over five so I think it didn’t seem too back in relation to that.

    • rustynail

      hometeem  yup hours and hours of it

    • dlb eh

      hometeem 
      i think there were three seperate threads for it

  • Numbersgame

    How can I press like 50 times

  • Dangle_My_Berries

    I invision this place has 2 camps right now……those on the edge of the bridge ready to jump…..and the others at the bottom hoping to stop them lol

    • dlb eh

      Dangle_My_Berries 
      and those taking bets who’ll jump first

    • MaxwellHowe

      Dangle_My_Berries The second group is beginning to yell jump, jump, jump

  • Belfour20

    Wow, why was my comment deleted? so much for freedom of speech i guess

    • JMAC17

      Belfour20 did you say something stupid?

      • gunner_36

        JMAC17 Belfour20 The post is back.

      • belfourfan20

        JMAC17 Belfour20 Try not to reflect badly on me, eh mate? 😉

        • Belfour20

          belfourfan20 JMAC17 Belfour20 LOL no worries, it was deleted for a second then it reappeared, i didnt think what i said was stupid or offensive.

  • Mind Bomb

    Well night all, quite the eventful day. 
    Go leafs, glares sternly at leafs management

  • gunner_36

    Seems needed. Chillax a little everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mACqcZZwG0k

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      gunner_36 Ya mon

      • wiski

        ingy56 gunner_36 Ya bumbaclot 😉

  • Dougie Wraparound

    I bet Nonis thought he had scuderi today and after losing him felt the heat. He’s just trying to board up the windows cause he heard the storm a comin’.
    Still, I think we’re better now. Kadri is our number 1, if not this year then next, and Bozak is good at number 2. Grabo couldn’t play the shutdown role, and Bolland is one of the best. We’re better, plain and simple.
    Lets not forget that our super young roster last year took the conference champs to the brink in round one. We would’ve been better without a single change, but now we’re ahead.

    • MaxwellHowe

      Dougie Wraparound Obviously if Nonis signed Scuderi, he doesn’t sign Bozak.

    • dlb eh

      Dougie Wraparound 
      only my favourite goal, Dougie Wraparound

      • Dougie Wraparound

        Always.
        Give me Gilmour and Clark for Bozak and Clarkson and we’d win the cup, guaranteed.

  • Cameron19

    -Keon- Cap hasn’t changed since Reimer signed his deal though.  It doesn’t really matter as long as two things happen: (1) We don’t make the cap space work by trading key pieces like Phaneuf, Franson and Kulemin, and (2) We don’t allow a cap hit to determine our starter, but rather, we make our goalies earn it.

    • Cameron19

      -Keon- And fair enough, I misjudged the way that market has increased lately (largely due to the decline of so many older goalies), but still, I echo Alec’s concern…

  • NatBornKilleR93

    Think there was enough bashing of his contract ….honestly prefer to keep him with a bit of a raise he plays well with kessel and lups ….he’s not terrible …he’s not ragin stajan …..so what he’s our num 1 not by choice ….there was nothing better out there ….there’s allready chemistry with our best player and they means allot ….were a better team right now …we will all love bolland and clarkson …well all love bernier who knows what kids come up and make a huge impression in camp ….

    • rockydundas

      NatBornKilleR93 I prefer to think of our top two lines as our top two lines…not line one and two. If it makes people feel better, lets call Kadri our first line center (with Lupul and Clarkson) and Bozak our second line center (with Kessel and JVR) Same difference. Same result

      • NatBornKilleR93

        That’s very true too and how nice is it that we actually have 2 lines that do score and the third can contribute and shut down teams …that what u want and all we need for now …who know maybe kadri takes another step….maybe bozak lives up to his contract and is a 50-60point guy …we have balance …speed…heart….toughness…and 2 really good tenders….

  • Wilbur

    So if Reimer were an RFA this off-season what do you think he’d be signed for?

    • NatBornKilleR93

      Think he’d get 3.5-4 a year 2 or 3 year deal

  • daniel marois

    And I thought the Bozak resigning would send people in a tizzy….

  • Alec Brownscombe

    -Keon- More worried about what it means in terms of wanting one goalie to emerge over the other.. I understand Reimer’s deal was signed some time ago.

    • Black_Hawk

      -Keon- as long as they win is right

  • gunner_36

    -Keon- The beauty of statistics: you can make an argument for anything.

    • Xxxxxnew

      gunner_36 -Keon- Safer to drive drunk because 80% of all accidents are caused by sober drivers. I just made that up.

      • gunner_36

        Xxxxxnew gunner_36 -Keon- If you wrote an article on that, some people would believe you.

      • Xxxxxnew

        gunner_36 Xxxxxnew -Keon- I call them advanced age statistics.

  • OTL

    -Keon- why must you bring facts into this?  😉

  • ibeatoffalot

    Nonis is good with number crunching quit your belly aching people.

    • Alec Brownscombe

      ibeatoffalot Hahaha. Comment of the night.
      Nonis is good with number crunching. Like he was his neighbour in math class or something.

      • ibeatoffalot

        Alec Brownscombe ibeatoffalot your just a whine ass Alec and yes ill enjoy my ban.

        • Alec Brownscombe

          ibeatoffalot Alec Brownscombe I’ve never been a whiner about this team. Ever. Anyone who has followed my blog for more than just the last 3 days should know this. I don’t like some of the moves and direction I’ve seen in the past few weeks. God forbid.

        • ShotgunCharlie

          Alec Brownscombe ibeatoffalot and look at all those brown nosing “likers” lol

        • rustynail

          ibeatoffalot Alec Brownscombe and you are just an ass

        • Ze_theLeafsFan

          rustynail ibeatoffalot Alec Brownscombe leave the guy or girl alone

        • gunner_36

          rustynail ibeatoffalot Alec Brownscombe That’s funny regardless of whether it’s true or not, haha.

        • ibeatoffalot

          Alec Brownscombe ibeatoffalot Its so easy to be a Internet Gm for all we know Bernier wouldnt sign for any less and then that trade would have been for nothing. You can be damn sure Nonis has a plan to get the rest of the rfa,s under contract hes not as dumb as people seem to think.

        • Jordan29

          Frustrates me when people call.me that for not agreeing too

        • Alec Brownscombe

          ibeatoffalot Alec Brownscombe That was part of the risk involved with acquiring Bernier though. We knew he was an RFA who had the leverage in the negotiation knowing he would be very vulnerable to an offer sheet. We already had Reimer, we took on that risk, we gave up Frattin, Scrivens, a 2nd and took back 500k in salary… while paying Bernier 2m more than Scrivy would’ve made.
          That’s why I didn’t like the deal when it was initially made. As I wrote at the time.

        • ibeatoffalot

          Jordan29 Just because Nonis doesnt make the moves everyone else thinks he should he must be a tart right? lol So easy being a GM in the NHL i tell ya.

        • dlb eh

          ibeatoffalot Alec Brownscombe 
          i have trouble replying to you.  it’s a little uncomfortable for some reason

        • wiski

          Alec Brownscombe ibeatoffalot So he really costs 3.4 then

        • Alec Brownscombe

          ibeatoffalot Jordan29 An excellent defense if I do say so myself. I cannot refute the fact that Nonis is, in fact, a GM.

        • ibeatoffalot

          Alec Brownscombe ibeatoffalot Jordan29 Apparently so are you .

        • Alec Brownscombe

          ibeatoffalot Alec Brownscombe Jordan29 I actually run a blog where we talk about the team and offer opinions and stuff. Isn’t that why you came here?

        • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ FreddyG

          Alec Brownscombe ibeatoffalot Jordan29 Alec whether I agree with you or not (I do and I don’t, depending on the topic), you can argue with the best. I know you are quite young. Are you hoping to be a lawyer one day?

        • ShotgunCharlie

          Alec Brownscombe ibeatoffalot I didnt like the deal cause I am a crusty old bastard.

        • wiski

          Alec Brownscombe ibeatoffalot Jordan29 Not according to his nic, he’s looking for ML hand strokes  not hot stove 😉

        • ibeatoffalot

          ShotgunCharlie Alec Brownscombe ibeatoffalot lol fair enough.

    • Komas Taberle

      ibeatoffalot It’s actualy Loiselle, but that’s ok.

    • gunner_36

      ibeatoffalot Was he the guy that added up the two years at 2.9 mil per and find the total of $5.8 mil? Glad we had him.

      • ibeatoffalot

        gunner_36 ibeatoffalot Who the fuck cares what hes signed for as long as he makes everyone fit under the cap for real dude?

        • dlb eh

          ibeatoffalot
          it’s your name.  that’s it.  ew.

  • Cameron19

    -Keon- Although, Reimer”s numbers were superior, and he actually carried the team for those 37 games, and his dollar figure was for 3 years, not 2….kinda missing some key details there…

    • gunner_36

      Cameron19 -Keon- As I said, the beauty of statistics.

  • Jordan29

    Ridiculous how we finally have a playoff and cup contending team IMO and yet people are still all like WAAAHHHHHH

    • Ze_theLeafsFan

      Jordan29 we are cup contending?

      • Jordan29

        I truly feel we are. We are a 2-3 round team and Bernier or rei.er could steal us further

    • Cameron19

      Jordan29 We don’t have either of those things  We have a team that made the playoffs in a shortened season and has a hell of a lot to prove yet, but may need to subtract more depth in order to get under the cap…

      • Jordan29

        We will subtract nothing. Maybe Liles but nothing core

  • Tim Horton

    -Keon- Wow what a misuse of stats. No wonder no one around here trust advanced stats.

  • jagith

    liles getting dumped??

  • Jordan29

    The truth is everyone would be guessing 4 mil if Bernier was drafted by us because you guys who are mad tend to over rate our own guys.

    • Cameron19

      Jordan29 lol, what total nonsense, Jordan…

      • Jordan29

        Will you at lease admit your wrong when he’s better next year?

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 Who?

        • Jordan29

          Bernier

        • Cameron19

          Jordan29 If you’re talking Bernier, I’m not saying I don’t think he can beat out Reimer for the number 1 – that may very well happen.  If I had to bet, I would say that Reimer retains the job for next year, at least, while Bernier struggles with this market and you know, facing criticism for the first time in his career.  Doesn’t mean I don’t think he has the skills to usurp the job though.

          Fact is, you don’t pay an unproven guy based on what you think he might be able to do – not when he’s an RFA.  Pay him based on what he’s earned.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Jordan29 it was a little higher then i thought he get true

  • ShotgunCharlie

    remember the time when Bozak  was a ufa out of college and everyone here was excited cause we all thought he was on the boards and told us he was choosing Toronto before any of the MSM knew?  those were the days 😛

    • Jordan29

      Bud I was him so Stfu lol

      • Jordan29

        It was not I. Sorry

    • rustynail

      ShotgunCharlie he even came on here after he signed

      • Jordan29

        Did he? Can’t remember that

        • rustynail

          Jordan29 yup the 1st week

      • ShotgunCharlie

        rustynail ShotgunCharlie And now we want him gone….well 50% of us do 😛

      • CoolyMan

        rustynail I remember the good ole days when your pot leaf avatar walked, lol

        • ShotgunCharlie

          CoolyMan rustynail ohey i remember that

        • rustynail

          CoolyMan rustynail before disqus

        • Jordan29

          Yup….poor avatar. Sucked in by the dark days of MLHS…..also know as the disqus days