(Monday Mashup) Keeping an Eye on Colorado

(Monday Mashup) Keeping an Eye on Colorado

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The Colorado Avalanche filed for club-elected arbitration ahead of yesterday’s 5 p.m. deadline rather than qualifying 23-year-old RFA center Ryan O’Reilly at a $6.5 million price tag.

O’Reilly is not going to want to take a pay cut from his $6.5 million salary last season during this negotiation (which is still ongoing, arb-file aside). O’Reilly and his agent are able to play a pretty hard line here, as even an unfavorable arbitration ruling gives him the option of bridging himself into UFA in two year’s time.

There is a period between July 1 and July 5 wherein O’Reilly is open to another offer sheet if a contract isn’t settled.

Meanwhile, Paul Stastny remains unsigned 15 days before UFA opens.

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Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

None of the picks in this draft have wowed me at all. Like Gus says in the Leafs Hangout on this page, the most he would offer to switch for the No. 1 pick this years would be our No. 8 and Franson. He said it really isn't worth it otherwise.

deedrag
deedrag

We have a problem. We need to move someone like Dion who has lots of value for a first pick. We really don't have anyone else that will net us something big and save us cap aside from Kessel (RW). I don't think anyone would want to trade Kessel for an elite center unless it was straight up. He did finish top 6 in points overall and only 2 points behind Corry Perry (RW), who has a better supporting cast. The only player that can get us some wiggle room and something good in return is Dion. Can a Matt Niskanen or Boyle take on Dion's Minutes? Don't know, but getting Ekblad and one of Niskanen or Boyle can sure make it easier to swallow.

Boyle-Gardiner

Niskanen-Reilly

Ekblad-Ranger

Looks pretty good from here.


Uncle Otis
Uncle Otis

@Xxxxxnew 

I missed the hangout..did Gus say how much he saw of Ekblad?

I'm surprised that's "the most" he would give up

mcloki
mcloki

@deedrag No we don't have a problem. Just impatient fans. These draft guys are not Messiahs. Just build on Phanuef. Give him the help he needs so he can play more like he did at the beginnign of the season. Build the defense around him. rather than stripping it down and just playing musical chairs.

whalz
whalz

@deedrag problem is NONIS better know he can sign those players before July 1st when Dions NTC kicks in.......

in all honesty, anyone of NISKANEN, FAYNE, BOYLE, GREENE, ROBIDAS could pick up the slack and eat some mins....(but Niskanen is prob going to sign for 5.5mil)....

Uncle Otis
Uncle Otis

@mcloki 

Awesome..I didn't know Kess was such a good dancer!!

#pure athlete

zombie27
zombie27

@Uncle Otis  theres no way in hell the habs would trade subban straight up for oreilly haha

mcloki
mcloki

@ShiftyD Brilliant idea. Easpecially for guys that are new to the game They could make it that same as the crease and nobody would notice. we alredy have massive logos and advertising.

Hmmm
Hmmm

@ShiftyD The impending lawsuits will make short work of it.  Some kid likely to get down on his knees and lick the orange ice like a lollipop.

deedrag
deedrag

@mcloki @deedrag  We have no one to trade with to get help for Dion. I don't want to get another older defensemen like Boyle and then leave the cupboard bare for the future. Trading Dion gets us a shot at a potential number one giant defender that can probably step in right away on the third line with upside, potential franchise number 1 D. This also leaves us with cash to get a guy like Matt for say 5.5 to 6 Million. Deduct 7 mil and one player that's too much of a distraction to fans and the team add 2 D that aren't, for same price and younger.

Uncle Otis
Uncle Otis

@mcloki @deedrag 

Isn't trading the core to build with youth the opposite of impatient Loki?

Says here its the  "we gotta build with what we have now because I cant take three years of failure despite that I know in my heart these guys wont win Stanley" ....that are the impatient dreamers

deedrag
deedrag

@whalz @deedrag  We could also use the pick for that center position to doesn't have to be Ekblad. I can see Matt going for that too which isn't too bad if our core defensively is better.

mr_hanie
mr_hanie

@Yaknowwhat Sounds like a good idea, like the warning track at the outfield wall in baseball

mcloki
mcloki

@deedrag @mcloki Yo;re trading like for like when does that ever happen. And not every D man has to be traded for. 

Uncle Otis
Uncle Otis

@deedrag @mcloki 

If FLA would do a deal with Dion for Ekblad straight up,says here we are fools not to take it

I'm just not sure they would

mcloki
mcloki

@Uncle Otis @mcloki @deedrag only if you think Phaneuf is somehow old and decrepit. Phaneuf ain't the problem, Upgrade Gunner with Boyle and move Franson. Bring up Granberg and McWilliams. ANd the D looks different. Play him on the second PP and let Gardiner and Rielly take over the PP. Toronto Changes as a D team.  

whalz
whalz

@deedrag can really see Nonis going after staal, ROR, or stastny....cant go with the same centres as last yr.

staal

bozak/kadri

Holland

Mcclement or Carrick

bolland can got to flor.

deedrag
deedrag

@mcloki @deedrag  Because they want a developed D not a green one. They've gone long enough through their rebuild. Tallon stated something to the effect that he had the go ahead to spend more to get them to the playoffs. You would be nuts not to take Dion over Niskanen or Boyle if you got the cap.

deedrag
deedrag

@mcloki @deedrag  I'm suggesting it because we need cap and 2 more D. We can't afford the other d we need and get a centre if we keep Dion.

Uncle Otis
Uncle Otis

@mcloki @Uncle Otis @deedrag 

But Phaneuf and Kess are the problem when they eat 15 mil of your cap over infinitum and aren't good enough to be your core

Sprinkle in a Lups at 5, Clarkson at 5 plus and you get the picture.

They tried... and it failed

Everyone wants to blame Carlyle...well,he's partly to blame but there id NO WAY in sam hell this team can beat anyone out of the West with some "tweaks"..not this year,nor next and likely the following too.

Burkie upgraded the assets but then we fell in love...and that's a mistake.

Despite all evidence to the contrary,we somehow believe that a few adds/deletions will give us a chance.

A chance to make the playoffs and win a round

It's not enough Loki..and I pray that Shanny gets it too

It would start with a blockbuster with FLA 

Bon Scott was a Leaf fan
Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

@whalz @deedrag

I think Bolland will be a Leaf.  Not sure how much or for how long....but I do think the Mimico connection is strong between Shanny and Dave.

mcloki
mcloki

@deedrag @mcloki we're getting cap from the cap going up, And i'm not so sure we can't afford it. Next two weeks will tell.


mcloki
mcloki

@Uncle Otis @mcloki @deedrag Bernier doesn't get hurt and we're singing a differnt tune. Kessel is paying stellar, Stellar, JVR is going to get better and Kadriis just in his prime. Ok you can trade Lupul. replace Gunner with anyone larger tougher stay at home D and things change. Get a third line that an cycel the puck and eat up minutes in the oppposing end. 


The sky is not falling. And you don;t build teams with wholesale changes every 2 years.  Let them build the thrd and 4th line. Those guys are easier to get. 

mr_hanie
mr_hanie

@Yaknowwhat It should be in place for kids hockey, because the kids are not always aware

deedrag
deedrag

@mcloki @deedrag  It will be hard because we have 18.5 mill invested on 3 players playing right wing.

Uncle Otis
Uncle Otis

@mcloki @Uncle Otis @deedrag 

But they aren't good enough to win it all Loki...not even close

Mr Stellar would disappear vs those western teams and cough up the puck too often

Dion is too slow and unable to defend against the BEST players

Lups,although I've loved his showtime ability to rise,is fading.

These guys are only getting older...and I think(hope) Nonis signed them both to avoid losing the assets for zip...little more

Kadri and Gardiner are question marks..and because I wish to rebuild with youth..I keep them... unless we are trading youth for youth.

I don't wish to be negative Loki,but this trained eye sees what it sees...and I only wish some of us could wrap our minds around wholesale changes

Otherwise,it's prolonging the inevitable imo..albeit with a few "fun" playoff successes

Yaknowwhat
Yaknowwhat

Its pretty obvious where the boards are....I just dont see most players being aware or looking down for some coloured ice during game situations...most are focused on the puck or the player or the potential for contact along the boards....not sure we want are kids looking down along the boards anyways...pretty soon the rinks are going to look like a road map...

mcloki
mcloki

@deedrag @mcloki we have 22 million in cap space for 10 players. On our bottom 6. Who cares what we've spent.

Uncle Otis
Uncle Otis

@Yaknowwhat 

Like MR H said..it would be good for kid's hockey/ref's aid..although those stop signs don't seem to do jack shit

deedrag
deedrag

@mcloki @deedrag  We have problems with our forwards not playing defensively so we need an upgrade. That's where the Cap space comes in handy and so they are not stuck if someone goes down again. This is the leafs we're talking about. They always have bad luck that way.