2012-13 Player Review: Joffrey Lupul

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Next up on the player review list is Joffrey Lupul.

It was a whirlwind season for the man who has rejuvenated his career in Toronto. Lupul signed a 5-year deal worth 26.25M, got hurt twice, suspended once, and still potted 18 points in only 16 games before notching four more points in seven playoff games.

I gave Lupul a 7, which was the second lowest ranking any of the writers here gave him (Mike gave him a six, if you were wondering). A seven to me means he had a “pretty good” season overall, relative to his role. Lupul’s expected to score and play in a top six role, which he obviously did when he was healthy. However, he played less than 50% of the games and whether you think the injuries were his fault or not, it’s a recurring theme with Lupul at this point.

In fairness, Lupul did do well to not allow his injuries to affect his play. Whenever he jumped back into the line-up he was clearly ready to go. In the grand scheme of things, though, I just can’t give a player a high rating based on 18 of 48 games.

Going into next season, the question with Lupul will be whether Carlyle plays him with Kessel again to create an all-out scoring line that is poor defensively, or whether Lupul is paired up with last season’s partner Nik Kulemin to help balance out his deficiencies defensively; perhaps playoff line mate Frattin will be reunited with Lupul again, too.

Regardless of what line Lupul does end up on, we know what he brings at this point: he’s a pure scorer who will get dirty in front of the opposition’s net, and he’s the emotional leader of the team.

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RATE THIS PLAYER: Out of 10, rate Joffrey Lupul’s season relative to his role and the expectations for the player entering the season. Be sure to back it up.

  • LN-093

    leafmealone LN-093 True, they’d take it to the next level.  I just don’t see how any league can have a team there when they are the centre of sports beting.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    Lupes gets a 9.5 from me.  So Bernier down to the Leafs, Flyers and Islanders.  Interesting.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Radar O’Rielly That means he’ll go to NJ LOL.

    • wiski

      -Keon- Can he catch the puck?

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    Lupes gets a 9.5 from me.  So Bernier down to the Leafs, Flyers and Islanders.  Interesting.

  • playoff nut

    unclejakescards playoff nut LN-093 leafmealone Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe Lmao

  • lukethenuke

    8 for me… was amazing, when in the lineup… hurt way to often and really at this point it wasnt just a fluke, even if one of the injuries itself was one… too bad he wasnt so injury prone.  Expecting a healthy lupul for next 4 years! Hes had a career worth of injuries already… no miore!!

    • Savo43

      lukethenuke Two guys colliding with your head on a ring around is pretty flukey. Anybody gets injure there.

      • Savo43

        lukethenuke injured*

    • lukethenuke

      9*
      just realised i made typo

  • wendelsfist

    Great Dane this will all be settled in a few weeks

  • wiski

    LN-093 Construction strike too boot.

  • ProfessorRance

    I’ll give Lupul a 9.5 just the way he came back after both injuries. He put the team on his back like a captain.

  • Burtonboy

    LN-093 I remember when Drapeau was Mayor and they were building the Olympic stadium . Story was the truck driver would drive up to enter with a load of gravel ,get paid or get a credit to get paid ,then leave without dumping the load, drive around the building and come right back in with the same load and get paid again……. pretty lucrative lol

    • wiski

      LN-093 Burtonboy remember the Maclean’s cover with bon homme and a briefcase of cash ? there was a big uproar in Quebec, today they’re saying holy fack they were right. lol

    • Xxxxxnew

      That’s how the cost to build the useless Olympic Stadium ballooned to $1.5 BILLION in the 1970s! It took taxpayers until 2006 tp pay it off.

  • rustynail

    https://twitter.com/reallisahttps://twitter.com/reallisa/status/347083564225003521
    Slava Voynov deal done. Six years, $25 million.

    • Burtonboy

      rustynail Wonder what Franson gets? Getting harder and harder NoNo . You had better get your ass in gear lol

      • rustynail

        Burtonboy rustynail longer he waits the more expensive it gets?

        • Burtonboy

          rustynail Burtonboy You can bank on it me thinks

      • Xxxxxnew

        It’s a strange year to calculate player worth because a lot of players had decent seasons for the first time but based on just 48 games or just portions of that. A lot of pay raise proposals seem to treat the season as though we’ve seen players play consistantly well over an 82 game stretch.

    • Cameron19

      I think that’s a pretty good deal for Voynov.  If he doesn’t regress, that’s a bargain.  I’d have no problem doing the same deal for Franson if Carlyle is confident in him.

      • Cameron19

        Why would you think that? If anything, Franson would cost more.  He out-produced Voynov, and has only one RFA year remaining.  Beyond that, you’re buying UFA years…

      • leafmealone

        Cameron19 Voynov is more solid defensively though imo. So it’s kind of a wash.

      • leafmealone

        Cameron19 Voynov is more solid defensively though imo. So it’s kind of a wash.

      • Cameron19

        He finished top ten in the league.  Also, people need to stop disregarding his career before Toronto in order to devalue him.  He was a solid defender in Nashville for two years before arriving here.  If anything, the Wilson year is the anomoly, not the “half season”.

      • LN-093

        Cameron19 True but I think the Leafs can low ball him a bit.

      • Cameron19

        Maybe, but has played a similarly sheltered role so far, on a Cup championship team.

      • Burtonboy

        LN-093 Cameron19 I hope they don’t . I hate the idea of trying to re-sign guys under market value . If they deserve the money they should get it . Rather have a player satisfied with his contract then pissed off thinking he got fucked

      • leafmealone

        Cameron19 Before he came over from Nashville there was plenty of evidence to show that he was being given very, very sheltered minutes there.
        I think it’s impossible to deny that he’s actually really improved from that point in his career. And his increase in his physical play this year was truly fabulous to see. He wasn’t suddenly gooning it up or anything, but much like with Gardiner he just became a lot more assertive in getting position and initiating contact.

      • Xxxxxnew

        I think the Carlyle system allowed him and a few of the other defencemen to simplify their game and he thrived on it.

    • wendelsfist

      LN-093 rustynail scuderi s walking.  lombardi said he wanted to resign him but i can’t see it.  and they will have willie mitchell next year and already extended regeher

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/capgeekhttps://twitter.com/capgeek/status/347085345067786241
    With Voynov signing per https://twitter.com/reallisa, https://twitter.com/search?q=%23LAKings&src=hash have 15 players signed for $56.7M — leaving $959K per open roster spot.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/capgeekhttps://twitter.com/capgeek/status/347085345067786241
    With Voynov signing per https://twitter.com/reallisa, https://twitter.com/search?q=%23LAKings&src=hash have 15 players signed for $56.7M — leaving $959K per open roster spot.

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/SUNMitchellhttps://twitter.com/SUNMitchell/status/347085376386629632
    According to a solid source, https://twitter.com/search?q=%23LAKings&src=hash and https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Flyers&src=hash are talking G Jonathan Bernier for 11th-overall pick, plus.

    • rustynail

      Burtonboy That makes the Flyers totally nutso

      • Burtonboy

        rustynail Burtonboy Got to be something wrong with the water in Philly

        • ProfessorRance

          Burtonboy rustynail Wow I would hate to be a Flyers fan.

        • ProfessorRance

          LN-093 ProfessorRance Burtonboy rustynail Or the JVR for Schenn deal.

        • leafmealone

          ProfessorRance LN-093 Burtonboy rustynail Well, that did get them one more great JVR highlight reel goal.

        • mcloki

          Burtonboy rustynail Maybe the cheese in the Philly Cheesesteaks is off.? The only guy the Philly GM is keeping in business is the Jersey maker.

      • Black_Hawk

        rustynail Burtonboy yes sir

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Burtonboy The Kings have to get an NHL goaltender at some point though don’t they? No idea what they have in the system but someone has to back up Quick.

      • Burtonboy

        ingy56 Burtonboy The cap will dictate carring a cheap backup for a couple of yrs for sure . Not sure what the Kings have in their system either

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Burtonboy ingy56 Yeah, whoever it is will come cheap. They have to sign more players.

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        -Keon- It’s possible if the Leafs sign a vet as a backup to Reimer.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Burtonboy The Kings have to get an NHL goaltender at some point though don’t they? No idea what they have in the system but someone has to back up Quick.

    • wendelsfist

      Burtonboy bernier was a 11th pick so la wants 11th picks + value for an nhl ready goalie.   that assumes he is still 11th overall quality and that is anyones guess

      • rustynail

        wendelsfist Burtonboy  but compensation for a goalie at like 4 million is only a 2nd round pick

        • Black_Hawk

          rustynail wendelsfist Burtonboy I would just offer sheet him then

        • Black_Hawk

          rustynail wendelsfist Burtonboy I would just offer sheet him then

        • Xxxxxnew

          When’s the last time that worked?

        • Cameron19

          Xxxxxnew Well, that’s precisely why he’s likely to be traded sooner rather than later, as in this case, it actually would work.

    • Pent_House

      Burtonboy  If that’s the price then forget it.

      • Burtonboy

        Pent_House Burtonboy The stuff being thrown around on twitter by some very good Philly writers is ridiculous as to what it will take to get Bernier

    • leafmealone

      Burtonboy hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

      Burtonboy If that is the price, the Kings can go piss up a rope!

    • Black_Hawk

      Burtonboy good then we wont get him, or i should say overpay for him

    • Black_Hawk

      Burtonboy good then we wont get him, or i should say overpay for him

  • Cameron19

    Detroit is the only team who could jump into that kind of game besides us, and I just don’t see them doing it.

  • Cameron19

    Detroit is the only team who could jump into that kind of game besides us, and I just don’t see them doing it.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    I know Bernier has no say where he goes, and even though he is an RFA, he would probably want to go to a team that needs a starter.  Not sure if Toronto is what he is looking for.

    • Alec Brownscombe

      And Bernier shouldn’t be what Toronto is looking for either.

      • rustynail

        Alec Brownscombe definitely

        • leafmealone

          rustynail Alec Brownscombe I’m not really sure that Bernier guarantees to be any great improvement over Scrivens. He’s put up his numbers playing behind an excellent team-particularly on defence. And he’s done it as a backup against weaker teams. Pretty sure I’d keep Scriv and spend the extra 2 million on the blueline.

  • Cameron19

    I’ll never understand the Bernier hype.  I remember last year people telling me Lindback was a far superior goalie to Reimer, and everything else in our system. Bernier is the same – all talk, and no proof. He played 14 games this year, and has only cracked 20 once….

    • wendelsfist

      Cameron19 Bernier Mason in net is asking for trouble

    • Xxxxxnew

      And how many clamouring for Bernier have never really seen him play? A couple of sports show highlights and we he has to be a Leaf. I remember people wanting to go after Omark because of one fancy shootout goal.

  • leafmealone

    unclejakescards  TMI!!!

  • leafmealone

    Best part of this potential deal b/t Kings and Flyers is that Bobrovsky just won the Vezina with the Columbus Blue Jackets!

  • lou19

    Joffrey Lupul, our Captain.

    • Xxxxxnew

      I think I like his leadership without the extra microscope of being captain in Toronto.

      • leafmealone

        Xxxxxnew Exactly. He’s more free to say what needs to be said when he doesn’t have the media obligations that wearing the C requires.

        • Xxxxxnew

          Too many people judge NHL captains on what they’ve experienced in minor hockey, best player on the ice is the captain. Guy Lafleur was never a captain, neither was Bobby Orr. But Dirk Graham from the 80s, whom few will remember, was captain of four different NHL teams in his career. Different in pro. Sometimes it’s leadership in the dressing room, the guy who can talk to management on behalf of another player, etc.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          XxxxxnewThe C on a person’s uniform is for the fans, mostly. As far as the players are concerned, it means nothing. I’ve seen a player, more than one, with the C who wasn’t the real leader at all. The players know who the leaders are. A letter on the chest doesn’t make any difference. It can be three or four guys. This is just something that’s got to develop naturally. Management has to stand back and let it happen.” – Wendel ClarkMay 1988

        • Xxxxxnew

          Like I said, Orr, Lafleur, many others were never captains.

        • lou19

          Xxxxxnew never said he was our best player, he’s a heart and soul player. never gives up. if I am a up and coming player on the leafs I will go to war with Lupul on the other hand, having captain Pylon is not the guy I would want to go to war with.jmo

      • mcloki

        Xxxxxnew If it takes the microscope off of Phanuef i’m all for it. Lupul is the guy. Girls want ot sleep with him. Guys want ot go have drinks with him. Perfect captain for the Leafs. Well spoken. bit of a chip. Flashes the Leaf logo with pride. 
        Lupul. Captain, my Captain.

  • Anthony Petrielli

    rustynail wiski I don’t even know what Kamado is

    • rustynail

      Anthony Petrielli rustynail wiski now that is sacrilege on here :)

    • Anthony Petrielli

      rustynail Anthony Petrielli wiski I’m way behind the times compared to you guys

    • Optimustic

      Anthony Petrielli rustynail wiski It’s a BBQ Anthony.  A few of the guys ( and maybe WW ) have one.  I had just bought a natural gas BBQ or I may have looked at one too.

    • Optimustic

      Anthony Petrielli rustynail wiski It’s a BBQ Anthony.  A few of the guys ( and maybe WW ) have one.  I had just bought a natural gas BBQ or I may have looked at one too.

  • inchesstyle

    franson to me is a better d man than voynov

    • lukethenuke

      inchesstyle they are about the same.. fransons just bigger and Canadian lol
      .
      I like the Voynov deal and hope Franson signs it.
      Franson could turn into a top pairing dman if he keeps playing physical and has Gardiner or RIelly on his side

      • Alec Brownscombe

        We would be insane to hand that deal to Franson, who still hasn’t proven himself top 4 worthy at age 25.

        • lukethenuke

          Alec Brownscombe I think he has this past season, and in the playoffs was a beast.

        • Burtonboy

          Alec Brownscombe I think what it does mean is getting Cody on any kind of cheap deal is out of the question and frankly I have no issue with that . Give the guys a fair contract they can live with . I’m a little concerned Nonis might try to nickel and dime of RFA’s . Not sure that creates a good atmosphere.

        • lukethenuke

          Burtonboy Alec Brownscombe i forsure think this was the cody we knew and hoped was in him and would emerge when we traded for him… nice for a player to pan out and emerge on the eafs for once

        • Xxxxxnew

          I was saying before that its a odd year for signings because the season was only 48 games and there were a lot of players who seemed to improve. I’m not talking about Franson specifically, but it’s hard to get a read on anybody, good or bad, after just four months in a messed up season.

        • mcloki

          lukethenuke Alec Brownscombe Everyone plays over their heads in 7 games.

        • mcloki

          lukethenuke Alec Brownscombe Everyone plays over their heads in 7 games.

        • lukethenuke

          mcloki lukethenuke Alec Brownscombe Not true.  We have those that emerge, and then those that do not.

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Voynov played #2D minutes for the Kings at age 22.

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Voynov played #2D minutes for the Kings at age 22.

    • Black_Hawk

      inchesstyle franson is bigger, voynov is faster so its about the same.

  • Xxxxxnew

    Especially because the cap will be back up over $70 mil by then.

  • lukethenuke

    If this Scuderi going to FA is true, i hope he is our only signing, maybe besides Clarkson if he doesnt want much more than it would cost to keep Mac

    • .JVR.

      lukethenuke 
      And where exactly does Scuderi fit in?

      • lukethenuke

        .JVR. lukethenuke 
        Phaneuf Scuderi/Gunner
        Gardiner Franson
        Gunner/Scuderi Rielly/liles(if not tade or b.o)/Blacker
        Fraser as the perfect 7th dman

        • .JVR.

          lukethenuke
          I think Fraser is the perfect 3rd pairing defenceman, but I guess if he is bumped down to be the 7th defenceman, that can only lead to good things.

          I guess signing Scuderi could also allow Gunnarsson to be traded, as part of a package for a #1 centre.

          Also, if he is signed, I figure Liles will definitely be bought out (along with Komisarek) and Rielly will spend another year in the WHL, which means one of Blacker or Holzer would be the third pairing defenceman.

          With that being said, I would much rather sign a tough, stay-at-home Right Handed defenceman to play with Liles on the third pairing, have Gunnarsson/Phaneuf as the first pair, Gardiner/Fraser as the second pair and like you said, Fraser would be the 7th d-man.

    • .JVR.

      lukethenuke 
      And where exactly does Scuderi fit in?

    • Cameron19

      lukethenuke Scuderi + Clarkson would be a good day for us.  I’m hoping for:

      Clarkson, 5 years, 20 million (less than people are expecting – hometown discount)
      Scuderi, 3 years, 11.25 million

      • Mind Bomb

        Cameron19 lukethenuke  
        Deal Cam !

      • lukethenuke

        Cameron19 lukethenuke that seems pretty perfect to me and ideal.  Even the Clarkson signing, i really wouldnt go more than that because all he really is is a 2md/3rd liner, who just so happens to bring intangibles.  Kulemin like lol.

      • lukethenuke

        Cameron19 lukethenuke just thinking i wouldnt go past 4 years for clarkson

      • mcloki

        Cameron19 lukethenuke Waiting for a hometown discount will end in tears Cameron.

        • Cameron19

          mcloki Cameron19 lukethenuke It’s not going to be a significant discount.  I really don’t think he’ll be fielding crazy offers.

      • Black_Hawk

        Cameron19 lukethenuke that be a good day. Still clarkson at 4M is a lot but ill take it

      • Xxxxxnew

        I’d like Scuderi but I’m surprised fans are opening up to the Idea of signing a guy who will be 38 at the end of his contract. I thought some leafs posters were adamant that players peaked 10 years before that age. LOL

        • Black_Hawk

          Xxxxxnew lol yeah some people do that here, and im guilty of it at times as well. But i think scuderi would be solid add. maybe not at 3.75M a year

        • Cameron19

          Xxxxxnew Well, we keep seeing that these older guys are move-able, as long as they have the history.  So even with a 3 year deal, he’s probably someone we can move pretty easily if we have to.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Xxxxxnew idk about the 3.75M a year though. Cud turn into a komi

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Xxxxxnew idk about the 3.75M a year though. Cud turn into a komi

        • Cameron19

          Black_Hawk Cameron19 Xxxxxnew 3.75 is pretty cheap.  He could definitely get more.  We can’t operate on the assumption that every free agent is potentially Komi.  Also, the only thing bad about Komisarek was the term, which isn’t an issue here.

        • Xxxxxnew

          I’d take him no prob. I think a solid vet Dman would be invaluable, especially with all the young d in our system. I’m not against a bit of vet presence at all. I just remember someone else arguing a few days ago about how players over 26 were past their prime and I chimed in that Chara has been past his prime for a decade then.

        • Black_Hawk

          Cameron19 Black_Hawk Xxxxxnew i know we cant operate on every signing is gonna be a komi but we still have to be cautious. I still think it would be a solid signing.

        • Jantz

          Cameron19 Xxxxxnew I believe we signed Beauchemin to a 3 yr/11m contract that we parlayed into one of the best deals the Leafs have ever made.
          I know Beauch played this year like the player we thought we signed and like the player he was at the Summer Olympic camp in 2009 – but for whatever reason it just never worked in Wilson’s system.

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/Hope_Smoke
    Mckenzie on TSN Radio “didn’t matter whether Chara was on the ice or not Kessel was playing great hockey and generating offense

    • leafmealone

      Burtonboy Uh oh, guess that means the apocalypse is upon us. Never thought I’d ever hear the MSM say anything good about Kessel while he was a Leaf.

      • Burtonboy

        leafmealone Burtonboy He also praised Carlyle for how he adjusted and matched lines against Julian.

    • Black_Hawk

      Burtonboy dam straight he was

  • mcloki

    You good Sir. SUCK. 
    A 7 for Lupul. Lupul Deserves at least a 9. Injury be damned. and moreover he deserves the C. 
    Good day SIR. 
    I said good Day.

    • lukethenuke

      mcloki and lets name a street after him while were at it!

      • mcloki

        lukethenuke mcloki I like your thinking. Do we really need a Gretzky way in this town. Nay.

    • Anthony Petrielli

      mcloki Eh, I have my reasons.

  • Black_Hawk

    man voynov got his money now

    • .JVR.

      Black_Hawk 
      Kid deserves it too.
      Hopefully Nonis sees all these RFAs resigning and gives Franson his contract.
      I think a 3 or 4 year deal at $4 million should be sufficient.

      • Black_Hawk

        .JVR. Black_Hawk yeah voynov did really well. I would give franson his contract too

        • Burtonboy

          Black_Hawk .JVR. And Kadri .

        • Black_Hawk

          Burtonboy Black_Hawk .JVR. Oh especially kadri. the kid is golden

  • Black_Hawk

    -Keon- yeah that be solid

  • HeatherRickAkin

    Seems to be lots of talk her on Bernier. Is there some suggestion that the Leafs may be interested ? I am not against that, even though Bernier hasn’t done much in the NHL . I am of the belief that many in the Leaf camp (fans and management) like Reimer a lot because of his heart , but I still sense a nagging feeling that James may or may not evolve into a top end stopper . His warts ….rebound control , and less than superlative glove hand , need improvement , and I doubt anyone can be sure that will happen. Having said all this, I would be reluctant to trade a major young Leaf to get a goalie (at least any that are on the market). Back to Lupul . I just read mcloki’s post, Sir . And I roared. With all the serious banter on this site (and its great) , the levity is what puts MLHS over the top. I just so happen to agree with mcloki in that a 7 is WAY too low for Lupul . I would go 8.5 , and I love Lupul, but he isn’t ready for mayor of Toronto just yet. Wait ….I take that back. Seems the mayor of Hogtown may just be replaceable. One more thing: please do a major deal for a compliance buyout  . Its only $$$$$$

    • Reimocerous

      HeatherRickAkin There is and has always been lots of rumoured links between the Leafs and Bernier. I think reimer proved his worth this playoff run though. Rumours are smoke and mirrors. Nothing here.

      • leafmealone

        Reimocerous HeatherRickAkin For once I don’t mind someone using Toronto to create a bidding war for themselves. If it makes Philly or Jersey make a ridiculous overpayment to acquire the next Anders Lindback all the better.

  • Optimustic

    I’ve got to give Lupes an 8.  It might have been higher except for the injuries though.  He just such a huge addition to the team when he’s in the game.  
      This injury was not his fault, he was standing at the front of the net( or just to the left side when Dion shot).  If we don’t want our players to get injured we’ll have to tell them to avoid dirty areas, corners, any contact and they’ll have to slow down to cut down on inuries.   I’m sure none of us want to watch our Leafs play that type of game.

    • Black_Hawk

      Optimustic I like how you highlighted that

      • Optimustic

        Black_Hawk Optimustic Thanks.  I didn’t want to use capitals as it would have looked like I was shouting, but I wanted to highlight it because I thought it was so important to point out that if we want the boys to play gritty then we have to expect the risk.

        • Black_Hawk

          Optimustic Black_Hawk lol you should have used capitals would have been funny

    • .JVR.

      Optimustic 
      I concur with you Mr. Optimustic. (not sure what Optimustic is) and also give him an 8 out of 10.
      When he was healthy (and not suspended) he was arguably the best player on our team and is definitely the leader of the team.

      • skiingallday

        .JVR. Optimustic I still think Kessel is the leader. He may not be vocal, but he sure led by example. Especially in the playoffs.

        • .JVR.

          skiingallday
          Lupul also took the reigns and lead by example quite a few times during the season.

        • Optimustic

          skiingallday .JVR. Optimustic Yup.  Can’t argue with his playoff performance for sure.

      • skiingallday

        .JVR. Optimustic I still think Kessel is the leader. He may not be vocal, but he sure led by example. Especially in the playoffs.

      • Optimustic

        .JVR. Optimustic Optimustic is a combination of Optimus (reim)  and optimistic.   When I found MLHS it was during Reimer’s stretch run a couple of years ago.  So I decided to pick a handle that had something to do with Reimer.   The Mrs, is calling me for supper so I’ll chat later.   I’m out for now.

  • Burtonboy

    https://twitter.com/NHLwiki
    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NHL&src=hash — The https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Blackhawks&src=hash signed former player Yanic Perreault to a 2-year contract overseeing player development
    .

    • Black_Hawk

      Burtonboy great face off man

      • Burtonboy

        Black_Hawk Burtonboy Blackhawks could have used his advice last night lol

        • skiingallday

          Burtonboy Black_Hawk 19 for 22 on the draw for Bergeron…. Ridiculous, makes Kadri’s faceoff stats against the Bruins look damn good.

        • Burtonboy

          skiingallday Burtonboy Black_Hawk The Rags ,Pens and Hawks make everything the Leafs did against the Bruins look good …….because it  was.

        • Black_Hawk

          skiingallday Burtonboy Black_Hawk yeah it just goes to show that the bruins are just really good at faceoffs.

        • Black_Hawk

          Burtonboy Black_Hawk lol yeah shows that we werent as bad on faceoffs as we thought. its just that the bruins are that good at them.

      • Xxxxxnew

        I remember in his rookie season Crosby had a mic on him and before a faceoff he skated over to Yannick and said “so what’s the secret?”

        • Black_Hawk

          Xxxxxnew I remember him asking that at a all star game too

      • Xxxxxnew

        I remember in his rookie season Crosby had a mic on him and before a faceoff he skated over to Yannick and said “so what’s the secret?”

    • mcloki

      And their face off ability just jumped 10%

    • mcloki

      And their face off ability just jumped 10%

  • skiingallday

    8/10 for me, when he was in in the line up he was dominant, likely garnering a 9/10 but an unfortunate injury forced him to miss most of the season, so for that, I have to remove a * . I know it wasn’t his fault, but if we’re looking at a whole season view I think that we still have to take into account that he missed most of it.

  • Burtonboy

    Maple Leafs’ Ben Scrivens to march in Pride Paradehttp://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2013/06/18/maple_leafs_ben_scrivens_to_march_in_pride_parade.html

    • skiingallday

      Burtonboy good on him. Need more guys on the Leafs like that (or in the mayors office).

    • Black_Hawk

      Burtonboy Good guy

  • Long Sufferin Leaf Fan

    Yep can’t blame a guy for getting hit with a puck because he is in the crease stirring up shit

    • Pent_House

      Long Sufferin Leaf Fan Blame Dion if anyone

      • Cameron19

        Pent_House Long Sufferin Leaf Fan It’s a blameless incident.

        • lukethenuke

          Cameron19 Pent_House Long Sufferin Leaf Fan but but but but, Cameron… the finger must be pointed… at someone

        • Pent_House

          Cameron19 “if anything”

    • leafmealone

      Long Sufferin Leaf Fan He wasn’t even in the crease. He was pretty much halfway between the goal and playoff dot. lol

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/CoachsCornerCBChttps://twitter.com/CoachsCornerCBC/status/347112398102081537
    The Blackhawks did not look interested one bit last night. They packed it in.
    Wonder what he means?

    • Black_Hawk

      ingy56 Just got beat by a better team thats all. The bruins are gonna win it.

      • leafmealone

        Black_Hawk ingy56 Doesn’t help when the officials tilt the ice in one team’s favour.

        • Black_Hawk

          leafmealone Black_Hawk ingy56 cant be helped, beyond control

    • wendelsfist

      ingy56 Cherry is going to calling for them to insert Mayers during the next coaches corner

  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    Lupol gets a 9/10 from me…..cuz he’s Lupol and he rules.  Dude gives his all for pretty much each and every shift.  Loved his end to end goal against Carolina (that was truly inspirational).  He has the ability to make those around him better…no matter who his line-mates are.  So happy he’s gonna be a Leaf for years to come.  Love his attitude both off and on the ice.  A true leader…and an awesome Leafer!!

    • .JVR.

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
      Who is LUPOL? 😉

      • Xxxxxnew

        Loophole.

  • Xxxxxnew

    I’m bored so …
    It’s been almost a decade since the NHL fought for and got its cap. Here’s what teams were spending on payroll before the wage and price controls were introduced. I forgot about some of the big spenders at the time. Here’s the top dozen at the time, followed by the rest
    Detroit $77 mil
    NYR $76 mil
    Philly $68 mil
    Dallas $68 mil
    Colorado $63 mil
    Toronto $62 mil
    St. Louis $61 mil
    Anaheim $53 mil
    L.A. $53 mil
    Washington $50 mil
    Jersey $48 mil
    In no order: Van $42 mil, NYI $40 mil, Boston 46 mil, Edmonton $33 mil, Minny $27, Phoenix $39 mil, S. Jose $34 mil, Pitt $23 mil, Buffalo 32 mil, Montreal $38 mil, Ottawa $39 mil, Atlanta $28 mil, Carolina $35 mil, Florida $26 mil, Tampa $34 mil, Chicago $30 mil, Columbus $34 mil, Nashville $21 mil.
    Tampa won the cup that year over Calgary. Leafs lost to Philly in the second round.

    • .JVR.

      Xxxxxnew 
      Why didn’t you list Calgary’s payroll?

      • Xxxxxnew

        Typing on an iPad is an inexact discipline!
        $36 mil that year.

      • Xxxxxnew

        Typing on an iPad is an inexact discipline!
        $36 mil that year.

    • Pent_House

      Xxxxxnew I swear at one point detroit had a 100mill + pay-roll.

      • Xxxxxnew

        Here’s the wiki. Looks like Detroit topped out around $77 mil.

    • Cameron19

      Xxxxxnew How the mighty have fallen in Colorado, Dallas and St.Louis

      • Xxxxxnew

        Yeah, I’d forgotten they were all financial contenders at the same time. Dallas and the Avs have Cups to show for their money. Poor St. Louis. Funny seeing five teams ahead of the Leafs.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/APetriellihttps://twitter.com/APetrielli/status/347125564299157504
    On TSN Bob McKenzie just mentioned Matt Frattin as a guy LA would build a Jonathan Bernier deal around (which we’ve heard before).

    • 4evrblue

      ingy56 little late for that now?

    • ProfessorRance

      ingy56 Don’t want Bernier for Frattin at all.

      • 4evrblue

        ProfessorRance ingy56 I simply don’t want Bernier anymore. At one point I would have jumped at the opportunity but right now whats the point? Reimer is good and Scrivens still has a shot at being a starter. Lets ride this wave

        • Black_Hawk

          4evrblue ProfessorRance ingy56 that is true i would just leave it too

        • ProfessorRance

          4evrblue ProfessorRance ingy56 Couldn’t agree more. Reimer proved what we all needed to see and Scrivens is a young, capable backup who still can grow. If we were to move Frattin I hope it is to address other areas.

        • Cameron19

          4evrblue ProfessorRance ingy56 If we’re interested in Bernier, than I’m fine with that. I think our organization has done a pretty good job of projecting young talent. If they think Reimer/Bernier is an elite tandem, I believe them.

        • 4evrblue

          Cameron19 4evrblue ProfessorRance ingy56 it just doesn’t make sense to me. first NoNo wants to give Reimer and Scrivens a shot, then he wants to get a veteran to help Reimer, now he wants another up-and-coming young player to push James? All over the map

    • Black_Hawk

      ingy56 straight up?

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Black_Hawk ingy56 I doubt it. Rumours earlier today were that Philly would have to part with their 1st rounder and Couturier.

        • Anthony Petrielli

          ingy56 Black_Hawk McKenzie named Matt Read.

        • Black_Hawk

          ingy56 Black_Hawk no way thats true. Couturier straight up maybe or the 1st straight up but not both.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Anthony Petrielli ingy56 Black_Hawk That makes more sense..draft picks too?

        • Anthony Petrielli

          ingy56 Anthony Petrielli Black_Hawk Yeah I assume so. Guys like Frattin/Read would be the centerpieces though.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Anthony Petrielli ingy56 Black_Hawk Too rich…the Kings are in a tough spot as a decent offer sheet only nets them a 2nd.

        • Black_Hawk

          ingy56 Anthony Petrielli Black_Hawk yeah i just rather offer sheet him then

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/tpanotchCSNhttps://twitter.com/tpanotchCSN/status/347128592863481856
    2 NHL sources tell CSN Flyers & ANA talking of Bobby Ryan. Among scenarios being discussed: Coburn, 11th pick for Ryan… more later

    • 4evrblue

      ingy56 lol oh Homer, you keep things interesting at the very least

      • Black_Hawk

        4evrblue ingy56 that he does

    • Black_Hawk

      ingy56 I think ANA would want a second line center for Ryan so maybe add Couturier into that deal?

      • Cameron19

        Black_Hawk ingy56 That’s way too much for Ryan, in my opinion.

    • Black_Hawk

      ingy56 also Philly cant afford to give up D man at this point

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Black_Hawk ingy56 Homer must have some other deals in his back pocket. Most of this just doesn’t make sense.

        • Black_Hawk

          ingy56 Black_Hawk well ryan is a philly boy so it kinda makes sense

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          Black_Hawk ingy56 
          Lot of family ties between Ryan and the Flyers, if I’m not mistaken.

    • Cameron19

      ingy56 That would leave them with just Schenn on the right side.

    • Jantz

      ingy56 Guess Phily wants to win every game 6-5.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/tpanotchCSNhttps://twitter.com/tpanotchCSN/status/347128849596813312
    my gut reaction: Flyers should not move that No. 11 pick. I know their scouts want them to hold onto their 1st round pick this year

    • Black_Hawk

      ingy56 they probably should

  • Burtonboy

    MSM needs to come up with some new material . All these rumors are re-treads that we have heard a million time before

    • 4evrblue

      Burtonboy shit BB, half of these rumors were started on this board lol

      • Burtonboy

        4evrblue Burtonboy Fuck we’re not that foolish are we ? :))))))

        • 4evrblue

          Burtonboy 4evrblue they up the ante lol

    • mcloki

      Mostly started by us.

  • mike_84

    Jays are coming out hitting tonight

    • Optimustic

      mike_84 Yeah, 2 – 0 in the bottom of the first with only 1 out.  Runners on 2nd and 3rd.  Make that 3 – 0 now and should only be 1 out.  Base running mistake.

      • mike_84

        Optimustic mike_84 4-0

        • Optimustic

          mike_84 Optimustic Playoffs might not be out of reach yet, but they need to keep this up for a while.  Especially if they’re playing within the division.

        • Black_Hawk

          mike_84 Optimustic Good, lets not jinx it though

  • DWCMLHS

    If anyone gives Lupul any rating other than “incomplete”, they’re lying to themselves and everyone else! 😉

    • DWCMLHS

      -Keon- You’re right, you “know not a word”, lol!

  • Jordan29

    Fuck this is one of those days where the blown 4-1 lead kills more and more thinking about it……FUCK

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Jordan29 Serenity now….

      • leafmealone

        ingy56 Jordan29 Yep, save it for Festivus and the “airing of grievances”.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          leafmealone ingy56 Jordan29 Serenity now…insanity later.

  • Cameron19

    Man, I wish Carlyle didn’t have it out with Bobby Ryan before leaving Anaheim.  He would be a realistically attainable star forward we could add with a decent package.

    • Pent_House

      Cameron19 We don’t need him. I rather get Clarkson to round out our wingers and then start looking at upgrading the centres and defense.

      • Cameron19

        Pent_House Cameron19 

        I’d put Clarkson on our 3rd line anyways:

        J.V.R. / Kessel
        Lupul / Ryan
        Kulie / Clarkson

        • Pent_House

          Cameron19 Kule has been playing RW forever. I don’t see Clarkson and Kulie on the same line.

        • Cameron19

          Pent_House Cameron19

          Kulemin has been shifting wings, forever, but whatever:

          J.V.R. / Kessel
          Lupul / Kulemin
          Ryan / Clarkson

          Can pretty much put any centers in there…

        • Pent_House

          Cameron19 Last time I remember Kulie playing LW for a consistent period was when he was on the 1st line with Bozie and Kess, which was ancient times. Last few years he’s been RW. I think he’s better on that right side any way. That’ll be one expensive ass group of wingers, but probably the biggest and best in the league.

        • Cameron19

          Pent_House Cameron19 

          He played LW with Malkin in the KHL just this year. 

          Point is, adding Clarkson and another big winger probably buys us time to develop some quality centers, because you can put guys like Bozak and Colborne in there and they should be fine.

        • 4evrblue

          Cameron19 Pent_House Im happy with Frattin in place of Ryan right now. I think Matt breaks out this year.

        • Pent_House

          4evrblue Me too, if we add Clarkson, I’m more than happy with our wingers.

        • Pent_House

          4evrblue Me too, if we add Clarkson, I’m more than happy with our wingers.

        • 4evrblue

          Pent_House 4evrblue Im withholding judgement on that one lol

        • 4evrblue

          Pent_House 4evrblue Im withholding judgement on that one lol

        • 4evrblue

          Pent_House 4evrblue Im withholding judgement on that one lol

  • Cameron19

    Man, I wish Carlyle didn’t have it out with Bobby Ryan before leaving Anaheim.  He would be a realistically attainable star forward we could add with a decent package.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/tpanotchCSNhttps://twitter.com/tpanotchCSN/status/347137650127421441
    Also, I can confirm ESPN/Pierre Lebrun’s report that Danny Briere has been notified by the Flyers that he will be bought out.

    • 4evrblue

      ingy56 Has NoNo told Komi the same?

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        4evrblue ingy56 Who knows…maybe he hasn’t decided yet pending a possible deal like you just mentioned.

        • 4evrblue

          ingy56 4evrblue I don’t think one of those deals will happen, would be nice though

      • Burtonboy

        4evrblue ingy56 Bet it was agreed upon when he agreed to go to the Marlies

        • 4evrblue

          Burtonboy 4evrblue ingy56 yeah you’re probably right there BB.

        • Cameron19

          Burtonboy 4evrblue ingy56 He’s also obviously being dangled as a buyout swap.

      • mcloki

        Why ride the last year out.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    https://twitter.com/JoshRimerHockeyhttps://twitter.com/JoshRimerHockey/status/347137547832549376
    Rich Winter, Ilya Bryzgalov’s agent has been informed by Paul Holmgren that Bryzgalov will NOT be bought out after Cup Final!

    • Cameron19

      ingy56 Wow, that’s a twist. So I guess this Bernier talk is total nonsense. Unless Philly is thinking of paying someone else to take Bryz and buy him out.

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Cameron19 ingy56 Oh what a tangled web…

      • 4evrblue

        Cameron19 ingy56 Couturier, 11th overall, and Nick Cousins, we’ll buy out Bryz for them :)

        • DWCMLHS

          4evrblue Cameron19 ingy56 They wouldn’t move SC to get rid of Bryz. They have enough money that they could just buy him out themselves. If they don’t buy him out, they must just want to keep him. Unless some other team’s incompetent GM wants to trade for Bryz to actually play him.

        • 4evrblue

          DWCMLHS 4evrblue Cameron19 ingy56 that post was tongue in cheek

  • Uncle Otis

    Mind Bomb 
    Hahaha…welcome back Kotter. :)

  • Jordan29

    Probably keeping Bryz another year and see how he does