Peter Holland & First Round Picks ranked by AHL Points Per Game...

Peter Holland & First Round Picks ranked by AHL Points Per Game (2004-2010)

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Peter Holland made his debut for the Leafs last night, playing 12 even strength minutes next to JvR and Kessel. Obviously it was nothing to read too far into, but Holland was strong in the circle (he was only 38% over 4 games in Anaheim, but went 7 for 11 last night), had one good chance in the slot, and showed a smooth skating ability for a big guy.

Said Randy Carlyle: “I thought he did OK, it’s hard when a young guy comes in. It’s not like we hid him in the lineup.. That’s what we believe; if you acquire young players, it wouldn’t be right to put him in a non-offensive situation, so that’s what we’ll continue to do.”

What follows is a list of forwards drafted in the first round between 2004 and 2010, with an 80-game minimum cut off for AHL games played (playoff games were included). At risk of stating the obvious, elite offensive players typically bypass the AHL altogether or play less than 80 games in the AHL before graduating to the NHL full time (Bobby Ryan being a rare exception).

Rank (AHL PPG)ForwardDraft - OverallAHL GamesAHL PointsAHL PPGNHL PPG
1Bobby Ryan2005 - 2nd1051071.020.92
2Kyle Palmieri2009 - 26th1501360.910.39
3Nazem Kadri2009 - 7th1301170.900.66
4Peter Holland2009 - 15th1291140.880.24
5Jiri Tlusty2006 - 13th1601360.850.40
6Max Pacioretty2007 - 22nd87730.840.61
7Kyle Turris2007 - 3rd86710.830.48
8Zach Boychuk2008 - 14th2702190.810.24
9Rob Schremp2004 - 25th2171730.800.47
10Mikkel Boedkker2008 - 8th100720.720.39
11Brett Connolly2010 - 6th94650.690.21
12Nino Niederreiter2010 - 5th80540.680.17
13Cody Hodgson2008 - 10th82540.660.58
13Michael Grabner2006 - 14th2121400.660.52
13Jack Skille2005 - 7th2141420.660.27
16Joe Colborne2008 - 16th1691060.630.29
16Gilbert Brule2005 - 6th102640.630.32
18Nicklas Bergfors2005 - 23rd2571500.580.48
19Chris Stewart2006 - 18th103580.560.62
20Lauri Korpikoski2004 - 19th179990.550.34
20Mark Zagrapan2005 - 13th2381310.550
22Jordan Caron2009 - 25th125680.540.27
23Mattias Tedenby2008 - 24th84440.520.26
24Trevor Lewis2006 - 17th2041010.490.17
25Carter Ashton2009 - 29th146650.450.04
25Chris Chuko2004 - 24th2831270.450
27Kyle Beach2008 - 11th170750.440
27Jim O’Brien2007 - 29th221970.440.19
29Greg Nemisz2008 - 25th202840.420.07
30Kyle Chipchurra2004 - 18th214900.420.22
31Colton Gilles2007 - 16th183690.380.12
31Kendal McArdle2005 - 20th215810.380.07
33Angelo Esposito2007 - 20th124380.310
34Ryan O’Marra2005 - 15th299890.300.21

To keep it short and easy for your Sunday morning: while Holland has been slower to emerge than some of the top players on this list, he has the AHL numbers to suggest he could be an above-average-to-good NHL point producer down the road. His NHL point-per-game rate so far ranks him pretty low, but that doesn’t mean much given he’s only played 29 games.

In the short term, we will have to see if Holland sticks with the big club, and if he does where he will fit once Tyler Bozak and Nazem Kadri return (which for Kadri will be Thursday vs. the Predators; Bozak is eligible to return for that game as well, but it will depend on if he’s ready).

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Holland after last night’s game:

602 comments
Black_Hawk
Black_Hawk

LOL are some ppl regretting the bernier deal b/c of scrivens getting back 2 back shut outs? come on, remember Js Girgure had b2b shut outs for us too and it didn't mean anything

Savo43
Savo43

Man that Holland kid was refreshing to watch. Some real promise there, anybody else feel that way? 

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

Until Scrivens faces the volume of shots Bernier has, and starts over half the games for his team with a good record, I'm not going to be bent out of shape about losing Scrivens. 

The Leafs have absolutely needed two lights out goaltenders to even be 12-7-1... so to think we should be regretting the deal is insane. Happily wrong about not needing him. Unfortunately, that's partially because we haven't improved as a team yet this season (over last season).

B_Leaf
B_Leaf

So what gives with our team? Are we in for a long season? Is this just a first 20 game coast-a-thon? I don't know what has happened to the team I loved from last year, but so far this year we have won a lot of ugly, uninspiring games. It is great to win, and perhaps in a way even greater when you win while paying bad, but generally you have to have some good games. But I just have not seen it. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned. Injuries and suspensions are playing a role but I don't see it being that big of a factor.

KurtWhite
KurtWhite

good for scrivens hope he has a solid long career but Id still make the trade again and again and again

B_Leaf
B_Leaf

Who was it on here that was so high on Scrivens?

KG24
KG24

So, I'm going to be in the GTA tomorrow morning.  Would anybody know as to whether or not the Leafs practice tomorrow, the time, and if it's open to the public? Thanks so much for any help!

loomx
loomx

Just looked this up now, potential Team Canada goalie save percentages since the beginning of last season:
1. Jonathan Bernier= 0.931
2. James Reimer= 0.928
3. Braden Holtby= 0.922
4. Corey Crawford= 0.919
5. Marc-Andre Fleury= 0.917
6. Carey Price= 0.916
7. Mike Smith= 0.913
8. Devan Dubnyk= 0.911
9. Roberto Luongo= 0.910

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Don't want to go overboard, but he didn't look out of place. I think that was the general consensus.

T_Ry
T_Ry

@TuckerForPunishment Wow...certainly does seem like GSP lets go because he feels the tap.  Kinda puts a different spin on things, eh?

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

Hendricks is in the process of pushing GSP off, don't know if he's tapping?

MaxwellHowe
MaxwellHowe

@Loric76 based on TSN stats, which seem to draw the minimum game line at 8, Reimer and Bernier are #5 and #6 respectively

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

@B_Leaf Exactly how I feel. I'll take 12-7-1, but there has to be improvement soon, or this season will go off the rails.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

We were amazingly lucky in the injury department in last year's half season. Amazingly lucky. And no suspensions. The team hasn't gotten untangled from them yet this season.

Knights2Leafs
Knights2Leafs

@B_Leaf 

I hear what you're saying. The one thing that sticks out for me, however, is that this team has only given up 5 game in regulation time twice, once to Columbus in a loss and once to Edmonton in an OT wiin. It will happen eventually but we don't seem to get blown out like in past years.

Bottom line is that the play has been spotty at times, but with the probability that we get better over time as we get back top 9 players.

Jay31
Jay31

@B_Leaf Agreed with you for the most part, although I think there have been a few good games (vs. Montreal, Edmonton (second one), Pittsburgh, Anaheim off the top of my head)

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

@KG24 Probably practice 10 a.m. at the Mastercard Centre. I can't confirm though.

Savo43
Savo43

@Xxxxxnew I didn't think my comment was overboard at all. Would've had his first assist as a Leaf if Kessel gets a bigger chunk of that backdoor tap in . Played a solid game, reminds me of Bozak, but from the left side of the stick to be honest. 

TuckerForPunishment
TuckerForPunishment

@Alec Brownscombe I saw this last night.  GSP was squeezing the fuck out of him.   Hendricks was about to black out and tapped just as Georges let him go.  I was like WTF???  He tapped.  But thought maybe I was seeing things.  

That is no doubt a tap.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Xxxxxnew We were missing our 2nd best player for almost the whole season last year, and our top pair defender was injured.  Even Reimer went down for a few weeks. Not that lucky. 

B_Leaf
B_Leaf

@Knights2Leafs @B_Leaf 

On Saturday I found myself emotionally detached from the game...unusual for me to watch the Leafs and not feel much.

B_Leaf
B_Leaf

@Jay31 @B_Leaf 

Those games were OK, but I don't know about good. Last year by now we had 5 or 6 games that we absolutely dominated. None of those yet.

Komarov and Grabovski are both missed IMO

Alec Brownscombe
Alec Brownscombe moderator

Also don't think a 2-3 second half choke is gonna be enough to get him.

And why would he tap after GSP released the choke?

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Loric76 @Cameron19 @Xxxxxnew Not really the point I was arguing.  I agree with that. Just saying, losing Lupul, Reimer and Gunnar can hardly be classified as an amazing stretch of luck. 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Xxxxxnew Just arguing the point that it was "amazingly lucky".  It's far better than our current situation, but still nothing I would call "amazingly lucky". 

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Those were about 40 very important man games missed for sure. But my quick math tells me that between injuries, among more players, and suspensions we've hit that number this season inside 20 games.

Knights2Leafs
Knights2Leafs

@B_Leaf @Knights2Leafs 

I am also feeling somewhat the same way, but I really think the team can ratchet up the intensity as they get closer to full strength.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@B_Leaf @Jay31 Some people were saying the same thing about the team during all of last year.  In my opinion you're simply remembering last season with a rose-colored lens. There aren't many teams that dominate night in and night out in this parody era NHL. You're asking for a developing team to play like an elite team. Not going to happen over night.  That is something you work towards. 

Jay31
Jay31

@B_Leaf @Jay31 Yeah i agree, we do miss those guys, both were tenacious players who were good at helping to generate o-zone time, something we're not very good at

sniperstar
sniperstar

@rustynail @wiski @B_Leaf Same boat as you guys. Saw him in the rookie tournament and instantly thought of Belfour. The way he was tracking the puck and what not. Never took his eyes off of it.