2013 Draft Profile Series – Anthony Mantha

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With a little over a week left until the NHL Draft, teams are going into crunch time as scouts race to finalize their draft rankings. These are the days where as a scout, you decide once and for all just how much you’re to advocate for your player. Sometimes if a single scout’s voice is loud enough, it may make all the difference in how high a surprise player can climb. Our next player has the potential to do exactly that – either you love him or you hate him – Val-d’Or forward Anthony Mantha.

Anthony Mantha – Winger, Val-d’Or Foreurs, QMJHL – Projected 18th – 25th overall

At 6’4 205 lbs, the QMJHL’s leading scorer is an impressive physical specimen with as much upside as anyone in this draft class. The young sniper exploded onto the scene with a league leading 50-goal campaign for Val-d’Or in his second QMJHL season. Despite his size, Mantha skates strikingly well. Similar to Boston’s Milan Lucic, he uses a quick first step and surprising top end speed to keep defenders off balance. However, Mantha lives along the outside wing, using his speed to create shooting opportunities on the rush – of which there were plenty. He led the entire league in shots, averaging nearly 5 per game, utilizing a quick, accurate wrister with the ability to score from anywhere at anytime. His scoring instincts are excellent, showing an innate ability to read the play, sneak away from a defender and be at the right place at the right time.

So blessed with some the most impressive natural athleticism of recent years, why isn’t Mantha projected to go higher? Well, sometimes you simply don’t know what you’re getting. The young winger shows the occasional flash of brilliance, displaying game-breaking potential and the desire to actually use it. At other times, he’s a floater, relying on perimeter play and exhibiting no willingness to engage physically or defensively. On the nights he doesn’t have “it”, you can tell from the opening puck drop and may not even notice him the rest of the game. Mantha was born a day after the cutoff for the 2012 NHL Draft, so naturally there is skepticism with regards to whether he can truly compared fairly to the rest of the current draft class.

At the end of the day, Mantha’s combination of size, skating and goal scoring are simply unrivaled in this class and some team willing to take on the risk will grab him somewhere in the latter third of the first round.

A huge compilation of all of Mantha’s goals:

  • Pent_House

    good work.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

    Not a center… but an interesting big bodied forward with a very high ceiling.. I’d be pretty excited by the gamble, but seems uncharacteristic of Morrison and his staff.

    • Pent_House

      @LeoTheLion I think with the state of the Leafs system over the last few years, we couldn’t afford to take gambles in the early round. Now that the system is pretty well stocked, and there’s depth, we could afford to take a more high-risk high-reward prospect.

    • Pent_House

      @LeoTheLion I think with the state of the Leafs system over the last few years, we couldn’t afford to take gambles in the early round. Now that the system is pretty well stocked, and there’s depth, we could afford to take a more high-risk high-reward prospect.

  • Burtonboy

    Not to derail Alex good work and I will get back to it here’s something of interest 
    https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDShttps://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS/status/348170884818821120
    3 teams are in the running for Jonathan Bernier. Kings are going to take the best offer from Maple Leafs, Flyers or Wild. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RDS&src=hash

    • Komas Taberle

      Burtonboy Flyers are supposedly out so that leaves the Wild and the Leafs.

    • daniel marois

      Burtonboy 
      I just read a report from a Philly columnist who said that T.O. has stepped up their offer “significantly” for Bernier – so much so the Flyers may not be able to match.  If the Flyers were offering Coburn + 11th-overall pick…what the heck has Leafs offered?  I mean, surely the 11th-overall pick would be more valuable then ten picks later at 21 right?  I can only guess the Leafs have offered Frattin + 21-overall + another Grade A prospect.

      • Mitch_S2

        daniel marois Burtonboy This is getting ridiculous he’s a backup at this point?

        • mcloki

          Mitch_S2 daniel marois Burtonboy Exactly we’re giving away 1st round picks for a 1st now. Maybe if Brown is strapped to his back. Silly season indeed.

        • dlb eh

          mcloki Mitch_S2 daniel marois Burtonboy 
          thankfully Nonis isn’t typically looking to impress people with his moves by swinging for the fences

        • daniel marois

          Mitch_S2 daniel marois Burtonboy
          I agree.  This is a lot. But you knew LA would ask for the moon concerning Bernier.  I mean, wouldn’t drafting Fucle at #21 be almost the same as trading for Bernier?  At least in the case of Fucle, you would not be trading additional assets just to get Bernier.

        • mcloki

          Mitch_S2 daniel marois Burtonboy Sorry it should have read “for a back up goalie” Unless NoNo has a deal in place with Edmonton to trade Reimer for their pick and Gagner why even think of doing this trade

        • mcloki

          daniel marois Mitch_S2 Burtonboy And it would be cheaper.

        • daniel marois

          mcloki Mitch_S2 daniel marois Burtonboy 

          It would be bold if it was indeed Reimer – and not Scrivens – that Nonis is offering Edm for the seventh-overall pick.  That would make sense why Toronto is so hot on Bernier.  Scrivens would bring back a second-rounder at best.

        • Dangle_My_Berries

          daniel marois mcloki Mitch_S2 Burtonboy has Edmonton lost faith in Dubnyk?

        • daniel marois

          Dangle_My_Berries daniel marois mcloki Mitch_S2 Burtonboy 
          I think MacTavish wants a goalie to propel them into the playoffs…like Reimer did for the Leafs.  Dub was not proven he can.  Oilers will not tolerate another top-10 pick next year.

      • wendelsfist

        daniel marois Burtonboy I don’t want to even guess even if it is true

      • Burtonboy

        daniel marois Burtonboy I would caution anyone not to take the Philadelphia media too seriously. They lean towards rumor mongering as you can well see by what you just posted . Not a chance in hell Philly or the Leafs are offering the likes of that for Bernier . If Nonis were to do that deal he would be run out of town on a rail.

        • Komas Taberle

          Burtonboy daniel marois Exactly BurtonBoy, there is no way we are offering close to that<,I say Frattin and a second tops.

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois 
          Very true.  Could just be media columnists attaching the Leafs name for traction sake.  But it does sound the interest is genuine from Toronto’s side.

        • daniel marois

          Komas Taberle Burtonboy daniel marois 
          I think that is the original offer Toronto proposed.  Seems LA wants them to “ante” up.  I can’t see Nonis offering more than that.

  • mcloki

    Can I get a catch up as to the going on today. Just got back and am looking at twitter.

    • LeGoon

      Ruff to Dallas, Vign to NYR, Torts to Vanc likely, and Calgary is all wet.

      • mcloki

        LeGoon Thank you. I got caught up looking at the flooding. just terrible.  I hope everyone in Calagry comes out of this safe.

  • daniel marois

    I am still in the wheelhouse of taking a chance on Klimchuk at #21 (if Rychel or say Gauthier is gone by then).

    • dlb eh

      daniel marois 
      Klimchuk sounds like a guy already drafted, signed and playing in the DET farm system

  • wendelsfist

    I really want the leafs to draft a prospect for 1C so haven’t considered wingers being we are set there.  But what if the best player on the board is yet another left handed man?  Will we really draft him.

    • daniel marois

      wendelsfist 
      Hey, Leafs could have drafted Grigorenko or Forsberg and elected to take Reilly because he was BPA.  I a player like say Klimchuk is still available and high on the Leafs draft chart, they won’t hesitate to take him.

      • dlb eh

        daniel marois wendelsfist 
        and that’s the best approach imo.

    • Xxxxxnew

      I don’t think drafting 21st gets us a No. 1 C in the short term. Maybe someone who could develop into one in five years or so.

      • daniel marois

        Xxxxxnew 
        Agreed.  That’s why I like the idea of Fucale.  He could develop into a franchise goalie in 3-4 years.  Then, we can pass on this nonsense for Bernier.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Xxxxxnew Fucale might be overrated b/c he played on a crazy ass team

      • Black_Hawk

        Xxxxxnew thats fine, at least we’d have one then

    • Burtonboy

      wendelsfist 99 times out of 100 they will take BPA especially if its a later pick

      • rustynail

        Burtonboy wendelsfist and so they should better value to the asset

        • daniel marois

          rustynail Burtonboy wendelsfist 
          At #21, you are still looking to hit a homerun.  Not add a depth player.  Does Lazar or Gauthier seem to be those type of centremen if they are available at #21?

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois rustynail Burtonboy wendelsfist Gauthier really interests me especially after Drouin said he was the toughest he played against in the Q

        • wendelsfist

          rustynail Burtonboy wendelsfist Drafted at #21, the best center in the NHL is Koivu.  There were a few busts or third/fourth liners as well.

        • wendelsfist

          rustynail Burtonboy wendelsfist Drafted at #21, the best center in the NHL is Koivu.  There were a few busts or third/fourth liners as well.

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois rustynail wendelsfist 
          A shutdoown centre is great.  But I want one with high offensive upside.  From the stats I see, Gauthier looks to be a 15-20 NHL goal scorer.  Perhaps that is what teams want…but maybe not at the #21 pick.

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois Burtonboy rustynail wendelsfist We are talking about an 18 yr old who has a long way to go in his development . He could be a completely different player is 3 yrs time

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois rustynail wendelsfist 
          No doubt.  I guess Gauthier would be great grab at that spot.  There is some suggestion he will definetely be gone before Leafs pick.

        • Xxxxxnew

          And that was 20 years ago in 1993 when euro players went a little later in the draft.

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois Burtonboy rustynail wendelsfist Could very well be . He’s a big Mofo

        • Pent_House

          wendelsfist Koivu is a legit #1C

        • Xxxxxnew

          Yes, but we had to go back 20 years to the last time one was drafted in the 21st spot.

        • dlb eh

          Xxxxxnew
          Doug Gilmour

          Selected in seventh round
          No. 134 overall by St.
          Louis Blues

        • dlb eh

          Xxxxxnew
          Selected by http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00005492.html round 6 http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/draft_by_pick.php?position=171 overall http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1998e.html
          Pavel someguy

        • dlb eh

          Xxxxxnew
          Selected by http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00004643.html round 1 http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/draft_by_pick.php?position=28 overall http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html

        • Xxxxxnew

          Like winning a lottery. With the same odds. And it took Dougie years in St. Louis and Calgary to become a No. 1 C. The original start to this was the idea we won’t likely see our 21st pick become a No. 1 C for the first four or five years of his career, much like Kadri who was picked 14 places higher, not that teams don’t get lucky one in a while.

        • Black_Hawk

          dlb eh Xxxxxnew yeah who is that guy?lol

        • wendelsfist

          dlb eh Xxxxxnew which was the last year that was talked about being deep?

    • Pent_House

      wendelsfist I think the Leafs will continue on the philosophy of BPA

    • Black_Hawk

      wendelsfist i think we take BPA

  • Xxxxxnew

    TIM PANNACHIO
    Comcast
    While the Flyers remain in the sweepstakes chase for L.A. Kings backup goalie Jonathan Bernier, the stakes have been raised.
    Much higher, it seems.
    Sources say the Toronto Maple Leafs have significantly anted up the price to pry Bernier from the Kings and this is yet another reason why the Flyers can’t make a final decision on whether to file a compliance buyout on goalie Ilya Bryzgalov.
    The Leafs, New York Islanders, Florida Panthers, Minnesota Wild and the New Jersey Devils reportedly are in the bidding, but sources say Toronto might be offering more than others are willing to pay.
    “We’re not really talking,” said one Flyers source, which likely means general manager Paul Holmgren can’t match what others are offering Kings GM Dean Lombardi for a guy many feel could have been a No. 1 starter were it not for how well Jonathan Quick has performed.

  • Xxxxxnew

    TIM PANNACHIO
    Comcast
    While the Flyers remain in the sweepstakes chase for L.A. Kings backup goalie Jonathan Bernier, the stakes have been raised.
    Much higher, it seems.
    Sources say the Toronto Maple Leafs have significantly anted up the price to pry Bernier from the Kings and this is yet another reason why the Flyers can’t make a final decision on whether to file a compliance buyout on goalie Ilya Bryzgalov.
    The Leafs, New York Islanders, Florida Panthers, Minnesota Wild and the New Jersey Devils reportedly are in the bidding, but sources say Toronto might be offering more than others are willing to pay.
    “We’re not really talking,” said one Flyers source, which likely means general manager Paul Holmgren can’t match what others are offering Kings GM Dean Lombardi for a guy many feel could have been a No. 1 starter were it not for how well Jonathan Quick has performed.

    • Dangle_My_Berries

      Xxxxxnew disturbing….

    • daniel marois

      Xxxxxnew 
      That is the Flyers report that I was referring to earlier.  I guess…take it for what it is worth.

      • wendelsfist

        daniel marois Xxxxxnew From the Kings view I would think they need a replacement for Penner and possibly a replacement for Scuderi (assuming Mitchell is still injured)

        • daniel marois

          wendelsfist daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          So would Liles be someone of interest or are they looking to nab a Percy/Blacker/Finn type prospect?  Because Gardiner/Reilly would be off table.

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois wendelsfist Xxxxxnew 
          be nice if Liles had good value for a situation like this.  if he’s still perceived to be a top 4 defenseman, it’s easy to understand what “upping the ante” could mean to other teams since no one’s in a hurry to trade top 4 D away.
          maybe they think having Mac’s rights and Scrivens as a backup is great too.

      • Burtonboy

        daniel marois Xxxxxnew There has been absolutely no talk about this among the top insiders . Nothing from MacKenzie ,Dreger or LeBrun . I’ll wait till I hear this elsewhere before actually giving this much credence

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          Ahhh….both LeBrun and McKenzie have been citing the Leafs in the mix for Bernier all this week.  McKenzie even talked about it on TSN radio on the afternoon drive yesterday.

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois Burtonboy Xxxxxnew Yes but they have made no mention of the Leafs upping the ante or what they are in fact offering

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          For sure.  That is why I am so interested what this supposed “ante up” by the Leafs is.  How much more can they possibly go than Frattin + 2013 second rounder and a mid-level prospect defenseman?

        • Xxxxxnew

          PANNACHIO is a reporter with Comcast.sportsnet, which is actually owned by the Snider family.

        • Burtonboy

          daniel marois Burtonboy Xxxxxnew Personally I wouldn’t even do a deal for Bernier but it seems the Leafs have a different take then I do. Just hoping they don’t do something foolish  at this point

        • Burtonboy

          Xxxxxnew I can’t give you specific examples right now but he’s far from infallible.

        • daniel marois

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          At the end of the day – as long as they don’t overpay – I am in for Bernier.  But you would have to think that Reimer/Scrivens must be in play right?

        • dlb eh

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          Liles + Mac + Scrivens
          Bernier

        • dlb eh

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          and swap Gunnarsson and Scuderi
          and swap 1st round picks in 2014

        • daniel marois

          dlb eh Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew 
          Scrivens would be the right type of back up for Quick.  But seems LA is hot on Frattin so in any proposal, he would be included.

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois dlb eh Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          i’m not giving them Frattin, sorry.
          many times the names being thrown around aren’t the guys to actually move.  it’s normally out of left field.
          Frattin is a logical piece both teams might like, so therefore i expect it’s not gonna happen.

        • daniel marois

          dlb eh daniel marois Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          I know.  But I think they want to cash in Bernier for an NHL forward and a defenceman.  Frattin makes sense.  Just not sure what d-man they want included in the package.

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois dlb eh Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          are we more desperate to have Bernier than they are to move him?

        • daniel marois

          dlb eh daniel marois Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          No.  Not desperate.  But I think the focus is changing the core in goal.  I am feeling like Nonis is more hot on Bernier than Burke ever was.

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois dlb eh Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          Nonis?  nah, i don’t think so.  i think this is being blown up by us more than anything.
          if anyone’s hot for Bernier i might believe if an E5 comes out that it’s someone who’s come here from LA recently.

        • Xxxxxnew

          Could be Liewiki who’s hot on Bernier #interfering

        • Xxxxxnew

          Could be Liewiki who’s hot on Bernier #interfering

        • daniel marois

          dlb eh daniel marois Burtonboy Xxxxxnew 
          Ah yes ol’ Ek.  But I would believe that Leiweke is giving a ringing endorsement on Bernier.  Is that enough to push Nonis to pursue him?  I just don’t know.  This waiting is killing me!

        • Pent_House

          daniel marois If we get Bernier, I think the Leafs run with Reimer/Bernier and trade Scrivens. It should be a really really good tandem.

        • Dangle_My_Berries

          daniel marois dlb eh Burtonboy Xxxxxnew this draft period is gonna be nutz

        • dlb eh

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          upgrading the G that way might make sense. bringing in Bernier and moving Reimer out does not.

        • Alec Brownscombe

          dlb eh Pent_House daniel marois that’s understating things. It’s totally insane and should be posted about no longer.

        • Alec Brownscombe

          dlb eh Pent_House daniel marois that’s understating things. It’s totally insane and should be posted about no longer.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          That scenerio seems more realistic.  Scrivens to Edm makes sense.  He is a native of Alberta and grew up near Edm.  But the most he would get from Edm is their second rounder.

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois Pent_House 
          done

        • daniel marois

          Alec Brownscombe dlb eh Pent_House daniel marois 
          Alec, I think we all feel Reimer deserves a shot to run with the #1 mantle.  But would internal competition from Bernier be so wrong vs. Scrivens?

        • Alec Brownscombe

          daniel marois Alec Brownscombe dlb eh Pent_House I was referring to the nutty discussion about oReimer being on the outs on account of this Bernier rumour.

        • Alec Brownscombe

          daniel marois Alec Brownscombe dlb eh Pent_House I was referring to the nutty discussion about oReimer being on the outs on account of this Bernier rumour.

        • Pent_House

          daniel marois Considering Scrivens was an undrafted free agent signing, getting a 2nd rounder for him would be great, especially since he’s going to be UFA next year.

        • daniel marois

          Alec Brownscombe daniel marois dlb eh Pent_House 
          Gotcha.  My suspicion is Scrivens is on the block – perhaps Edm.  I think Nonis would like to put together a package to move into the #7 spot.  But that would have to include a d-man and I am afraid a Gardiner/Reilly is what Edm would demand in return (in addition to Scrivens).

        • dlb eh

          daniel marois Alec Brownscombe dlb eh Pent_House 
          it’s easy to say no

        • Black_Hawk

          Burtonboy daniel marois Xxxxxnew hopefully there will never be

        • Pent_House

          Alec Brownscombe I think it’s stupid too. The logical move would be to have both Bernier and Reimer in the fold. You’re giving yourself a really good chance at having above-average goaltending all season long, and you also keep the work-load lower for both goalies, there by keeping them fresh. Down the road you can start worrying about which guy to keep etc.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          Agreed.  And getting Edm’s second rounder this year would be a high selection in the second round.  You will see a lot of first round talent available around Edm’s second round selection.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House Alec Brownscombe yeah that makes a lot more sense.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Pent_House how we getting that? for scrivens?

        • lukethenuke

          Pent_House Alec Brownscombe The thing is, do we know if bernier is better than Scrivens alone?! Im not sure how much better the guy never plays. I dont know what to think about all this bernier talk.  Seems like everything about him is hype based on his draft position…. 7 YEARS ago.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House Alec Brownscombe 
          For sure and both goalies (Bernier-Reimer) are right around  the same age.  Let the best man win.

        • Pent_House

          Black_Hawk I’m not sure who and where, but last year, one of those back-ups went for two 2nd’s. I think it was Lindbach.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House Black_Hawk 
          Yes.  That is the price Yzerman paid for Lindback.  And, Yzerman still saw the need to upgrade in goal when he picked up Bishop late in the season.  Lindback-Bishop…let the best man win.  That is what I think Nonis wants in T.O.

        • Black_Hawk

          lukethenuke Pent_House Alec Brownscombe yup it is all hype but thats what most trades are based on anyways no? i mean it always seems it unproven prospects who look like there going to be good for a proven roster player. I would leave bernier alone personally b/c i do feel scrivens is about as good as him right now (bernier with more upside i guess)

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House Black_Hawk Yeah it was lindback to tb for 2 2nds i think

        • Pent_House

          lukethenuke Well I dunno, his numbers when he does get to play are good. He’s also very unique for the league. From watching a few games of him, some highlight videos, and reading scouting reports, he’s a very good hybrid. He’s basically the most stand-up style goalie there is, and he’s really good at handling the puck. It gives you a different style goalie. His game is sort of like a newer version of Brodeur. If he can stop the puck, with good numbers, and handle the puck really well, you’re adding a great element to our back-end. Having that puck-handling goalie makes defence so so much easier, and allows you to break-out much cleaner, and it makes it much harder for teams to fore-check you. If one day the trapezoid is gone, it’ll just make him that much more effective.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Pent_House Black_Hawk Reimer is proven though, Lindback was not doing the job so Yzerman felt he needed to go out and get someone who could. We know we have a good goalie here who can play.

        • daniel marois

          lukethenuke Pent_House Alec Brownscombe 
          Well he was developing in the AHL (not unlike Reimer before Toskala was booted out of T.O.) and when it came time to play regularly, Quick snapped up the #1 job.  I think he and the LA club feel he is ready for a #1 job.  Just no vacancy in LA.

        • Pent_House

          daniel marois Exactly, I think it’s a great situation to have two young potential #1 goalies and let them duke it out. Reimer has proven a lot, but he hasn’t proven he can handle a true #1 starter’s work-load and stay healthy. If Reimer gets hurt again this season, we might be very happy that Nonis brought in Bernier.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House lukethenuke thats is true having a puck handling goalie is useful

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House daniel marois That is a good point.

        • daniel marois

          Black_Hawk Pent_House lukethenuke 
          Is Bernier suppose to be a good puck handling netminder?  That certainly is not one of Reimer’s biggest strength.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          Exactly.  I don’t think T.O. is fuzzy on Reimer’s abilities.  It’s his injury history.  Not unlike the Monster.  He could not stay healthy and Toronto decided it was time to go.  But he clearly did not play at the level Reimer has.

        • Pent_House

          daniel marois Yea playing style wise, you could call him broduer 2.0. I think Brodeur was his idol growing up. He’s really good at handling the puck and making plays with it. Plays a real hybrid style. He’s a stand-up goalie, who also mixes in the butter fly. Good angles, atheletic, sometimes he’ll block, sometimes he’ll catch. He’s a real all around goalie.

        • Black_Hawk

          Pent_House daniel marois that be funny if broduer 2.0 went and backed up broduer 1.0 in nj

        • happy_gilmour

          given eakins, i would think its scrivens, blacker, kulemin and the 1st for their 1st and someone on the outs like hemsky etc… eakins IMHO would want a mixture of youth to blend in and gets his coaching + some defense and reliability… we take back not such a great contract but move way up

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          Well he seems to have all the elements and makings of a #1 goalie.  I think in this market, seeing how much we paid in past trades for Raycroft and Toskala, people are fuzzy on trading for a young goalie.  But I feel like Bernier is the real deal.  But again – at what price?

        • daniel marois

          Black_Hawk Pent_House daniel marois 
          Well, have not heard NJ in the mix for him but never count out Lou Lamerello in trade talks.

        • lukethenuke

          happy_gilmour But why would we help them, by trading our assests, and get back thier garbage making us worse in the now and pissibly in the future… i dont get this Eakins wants BS.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Black_Hawk Pent_House yeah it seems like a good fit though

        • daniel marois

          happy_gilmour 
          In theory, that makes sense.  But that exact proposal would be MacTavish torched by fans.  They would expect something more significant if they are moving out their 7th-overall pick.

        • Pent_House

          daniel marois Yea I’m all for the move, and having a Bernier/Reimer tandem but like you said, the price is the sticking point. Hopefully it’s not too high.

        • daniel marois

          Pent_House daniel marois 
          From all the smoke, it seems Nonis wants a Bernier-Reimer tandem (I think someone on Toronto’s amateur/pro scouting staff really loves Bernier) and Scrivens is on the move given he is a UFA at the end of next season.  Just hope Nonis does not overpay for him.  If any indication, I would think not given his hardball stance with Komorav and Bozak.

        • Black_Hawk

          daniel marois Pent_House giving the Luongo situation i doubt nonis overpays

        • rustynail

          lukethenuke Pent_House Alec Brownscombe he was replaced in the WJC by Mason and won the gold AFTER he was replaced :)

        • dlb eh

          happy_gilmour 
          and lose too much in Kulemin.  we lost game 7 because we lacked one more of that guy.

    • Black_Hawk

      Xxxxxnew man nonis doesnt seem like he is doing shit all so i doubt we “significantly anted up the price”

  • B_Leaf

    I can only speculate, but if the Leafs are looking this hard at Bernier then I have to believe they have a better return coming back for Reimer. Why would they keep both Reimer and Bernier? Bernier wants to start, if he takes the job from Reimer, Reimer becomes a diminished asset. We have a good back-up with Scrivens. This doesn’t really make sense to me.

    • daniel marois

      B_Leaf 
      I totally agree.  Reimer must be in play (I suspect to Edm) and who better to know Reimer than Dallas Eakins.  U would have to think if Edm is the destination that the Oiler’s 7th-overall pick is in play.

      • wendelsfist

        daniel marois B_Leaf Replacing Reimer with an unproven Bernier is risky.   Less so then acquiring raycroft or toskala but this seems a step backwards with the potential to be upgrade in time

        • dlb eh

          wendelsfist daniel marois B_Leaf 
          i can’t fathom trading Reimer away let alone doing it to replace him with anyone short of Lindquist
          seems like NHL13 talk, which is fun, but still ludicrous once the game’s turned off

        • daniel marois

          wendelsfist daniel marois B_Leaf 
          Only thing I can think of is moving Reimer for a top pick like Edm’s.  Look, I know both Bernier and say Sean Monahan (who the Leafs would potenitally draft if available at #7) are still unknowns – but the ceiling on both guys is sky high.

        • wendelsfist

          daniel marois wendelsfist B_Leaf I can see this from the point of view that Bernier with a quality veteran backup would fit the team Nonis wants to build.

        • daniel marois

          wendelsfist daniel marois B_Leaf 
          Yes.  Meaning once Bernier becomes a Leaf buy the draft, the Leafs would sign a UFA vet goalie on July 5th.  That could very well be the plan in place.

        • Black_Hawk

          wendelsfist daniel marois B_Leaf yeah it would be stupid imo to go into the season with bernier as our number one over reimer. Reimer has proven him self in the playoffs while bernier has done shit all

        • reenergized

          dlb eh wendelsfist daniel marois B_Leaf not that I actually want Bernier … but did you just compare riemr to Lindquist … really?

      • djamon

        Edm is in the exact situation we are though. They have Dubnyk with pretty good numbers, why would they trade for essentially the same thing?

        • rustynail

          djamon Calgary on the other hand

    • Alec Brownscombe

      B_Leaf Do you realize what you’re implying?
      We get rid of our starter for an unproven entity. Genius.

      • Black_Hawk

        Alec Brownscombe B_Leaf yeah really dumb

    • Alec Brownscombe

      B_Leaf Do you realize what you’re implying?
      We get rid of our starter for an unproven entity. Genius.

    • Pent_House

      B_Leaf I don’t know why everyone turns to this negative conclusion. What’s wrong with having a really good tandem and a 1A 1B situation. It’s all over the league. Personally I think the Leafs wouldn’t want to keep Scrivens around.

    • Black_Hawk

      B_Leaf that would be so stupid to do

  • dlb eh

    1.  create CAP space
    (trade Grabovski, Liles and some other guys)
    2.  let Bozak and Mac go
    3.  Sign Miller, Lindquist and Bryzgalov if he’s bought out
    4.  trade for Bernier
    5.  Sign Gordon
    6.  Sign Clarkson
    7.  Draft MacKinnon

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

      dlb eh LOL funny joke.

      • dlb eh

        @LeoTheLion dlb eh 
        i know, i didn’t address our need for a 2D

    • Black_Hawk

      dlb eh lol at 3

    • Black_Hawk

      dlb eh lol at 3