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Dave Nonis stopped by TSN radio earlier this afternoon. Summary after the jump.

On the process of acquiring Bernier:

We had gone back and forth a couple of times throughout the course of the year trying to make it fit. There were roadblocks from one side or the other, and we decided to shelve it until the end of the year. It was the excitement of bringing another top young goaltender, having Jonathan and James together gives us one of the top 1-2 punches of potential in the NHL.

On whether he  considered other options in net:

We had a couple  other goalies (in our sights) but focused more on Jonathan in terms of a long term guy. It was well documented that we looked at a veteran  down the stretch, but in terms of a long term guy he was the one we were most focused on.

On whether he’s worried about a goaltending controversy:

That’s always that risk at any position. We could have a top center that gets pushed down to 2nd or 3rd and not be happy, but if you have the right people, with right character, they are going to battle as hard as they can and both will benefit . It’s a situation where we feel we have two guys who have great character who will both compete for that job and push hard for the net.

On splitting starts:

Randy uses his players in terms of ice time pretty well. The guy who is hottest is getting the most ice. Both players will play quite a few games. It won’t be a 70/12 split.

On Reimer’s reaction:

Professional. He was a little bit surprised that we brought in a similar player. He was thinking we would get a more established older guy to join him. I explained to him we didn’t rule that out but that there wasn’t a good fit for us, or for James. He understands that, and he doesn’t expect to have anything given to him. He is a very driven guy. If you look at what he’s accomplished, you can make a case he improved as much as anyone on our team over the past few years. He wants to keep the net.

On whether he would now move James Reimer:

I’d never say no. Is there a situation where certain players are untouchable? No. Not if you can make your team better. Do we expect to, or are we trying to move James? Not at all. The thinking is that we will have both players here at training camp and battling for the opening night starting position.

On his off-season plans from here:

Down the middle is really where championship teams are built. Watching the final 4 teams and the final 2 gives you a good example of what to follow. We’ll look to strengthen the C position and continue to add a couple of guys on the back end. We have a lot of good young defencemen that are not quite ready  yet. To try to find a C is something we will look hard to do, but most teams looking for the same things. Hardest positions to add to.

On trading for a number one center:

It would have to be through a trade, and a little luck. if you have a No. 1 C or a guy who you believe will become one, you don’t usually move him, unless you’re just so deep and you have a glaring need somewhere else. We’ll keep looking to acquire one, but we’re not the only team looking to do that, many teams are in the same position. We’ve been fortunate that some of the guys here have made some strides and played above where we expected them at this point.

On the cap coming down, and whether it’s harder or easier to do a deal:

Lawyer’s answer: Both. More people than usual looking to make a deal, but more difficult to complete one. A lot of teams  have cap issues whether it’s because of internal budgets or the cap itself dropping. There are going to be a lot of options but most teams have limited cap space. It will be a moving target between now and the start of FA.

On Tyler Bozak:

We would like to keep him. we are going to do what we can to see if we can keep Tyler. He’s done what we’ve asked of him. It’s a function of making it fit within a falling cap. We have a little bit of time and we are gonna see if we can get him signed by the 5th. If not, we will have to reallocate those dollars and find another solution.

On compliance buyouts, and whether he envisions using one or both:

Definitely an option, but we’re not at that position yet. We’re going see what happens at the draft, what pieces can be moved. The buyout period is just starting. Plenty of time to make those decisions.

 

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  • Dangle_My_Berries

    sure doesn’t sound like a guy on the cusp of ruining this franchise with stupid deals…

  • Dangle_My_Berries

    sure doesn’t sound like a guy on the cusp of ruining this franchise with stupid deals…

    • Uncle Otis

      Dangle_My_Berries 
      Is that the flavour du jour round here?
      Saw Cameron scrambling for his inhaler over Phaneuf talk last night 😉

      • Loric76

        Uncle Otis Dangle_My_Berries the previous thread is thick with thick people

        • newkb

          Loric76 Uncle Otis Dangle_My_Berries Hopefully they stay there….except for me, of course.

        • leafmealone

          Loric76 Uncle Otis Dangle_My_Berries Nature of the beast with this blog. At this time of year, with Nonis saying more or less that “anything could happen”, we all really get to see the vehemence that the individual posters have towards their particular favourites and their whipping boys. Everybody seems to have their own plans for “if I was GM” and don’t want to be gainsaid by any stretch of the imagination.

        • Loric76

          leafmealone Loric76 Uncle Otis Dangle_My_Berries so what you’re saying is Nonis brings the dumb out of dumb people lol

        • Uncle Otis

          leafmealone 
          Smartest thing I’ve seen Nonis say is “nobody is untouchable” which may seem throwaway but in hockey vernacular translates; “we’re open for business”
          Now if he trades Dion for Gagner straight up,then Ill join the chorus.
          Think he’s too smart for that.

        • leafmealone

          Loric76 leafmealone Uncle Otis Dangle_My_Berries Not exactly. I think I’m implying that everyone here thinks they would run the circus best, and can’t understand why other people don’t see the brilliance of their particular plan. The fact that some of those people are actually dumb, and that their plans are indeed terrible is tangential to that fact.

        • newkb

          leafmealone Loric76 Uncle Otis Dangle_My_Berries I know someone from the previous thread whose ears must be on fire now…

        • Uncle Otis

          newkb 
          Think I better go back and read that thread

        • theacs1966

          leafmealone Loric76 Uncle Otis Dangle_My_Berries I like to think I have a good hockey mind.  I have some things I want to see, like a trade up to get Barkov, and things I don’t want to see, like trading Gardiner, however, if they gave me the keys and told me to “fix it”, I’d shit and have a panic attack at the same time.

        • newkb

          Uncle Otis Don’t do it….he may see you and follow you back here.

        • theacs1966

          newkb Uncle Otis Fenton?

        • leafmealone

          Uncle Otis leafmealone I think the “no one is untouchable” line is just good lawyer speak. And it also indicates the reality of “hey, if someone makes me an offer I can’t refuse, then I won’t refuse it.”

        • leafmealone

          newkb leafmealone Loric76 Uncle Otis Dangle_My_Berries I’m not referring to anyone specifically. But I really don’t understand those who are advocating we trade Reimer before Bernier proves anything.

        • leafmealone

          theacs1966 newkb Uncle Otis I’d ignore that guy. He’s just here to use whatever position is convenient at the time to play devil’s advocate in critiquing other posters.

        • newkb

          theacs1966 newkb Uncle Otis Shhhh…..lol

  • leafmealone

    So just saw that the Flyer’s finally bought out Bryz. Between him and Briere they coming off the cap I expect they have more plans to offer sheet RFA’s. Wonder if they put an offer in on Rask?

    • Faalcon

      leafmealone I hope they do. I would love to see that, however Bruins have cap space and Chia is a wily GM.

    • Faalcon

      leafmealone I hope they do. I would love to see that, however Bruins have cap space and Chia is a wily GM.

      • leafmealone

        Faalcon leafmealone Sure the B’s have some cap space. But they also need to resign or replace Horton, and they have d men going UFA. IF Philly forces them into a massive overpayment on Boston’s part like they did with Weber and Nashville, that “space” is going to disappear pretty darn fast.

        • theacs1966

          leafmealone Faalcon Bos needs to sign both goalies.

        • leafmealone

          theacs1966 leafmealone Faalcon Not sure what kind of a priority they’re placing on Khudobin though.

        • theacs1966

          leafmealone theacs1966 Faalcon I meant a starter and a back up.  Will take whatever space they now have just to sign those 2 positions.

    • TheColborneUltimatum

      leafmealone Philly is such a laugh right now. I have no idea what their plan is. Something tells me they will be disappointed in Streit.

      • leafmealone

        TheColborneUltimatum leafmealone I’m wondering if their real target is now Ryan Miller. The new realignment has lessened the degree to which they and Buffalo are rivals for a playoff spot. And they tend to always want the shiniest toys. Or maybe they go back to the ex-Coyote well and check in on Mike Smith?

  • leafmealone

    So just saw that the Flyer’s finally bought out Bryz. Between him and Briere they coming off the cap I expect they have more plans to offer sheet RFA’s. Wonder if they put an offer in on Rask?

  • Faalcon

    I like the low key even keel approach of Nonis. I now hope he is makes ballsy decisions in the off season  to make this team better.

    • ProfessorRance

      Faalcon Bring on Letang! (Never in a million years, I know)

  • -Keon-

    Wow, Mr. Nonis is going to be a very busy man I would say. Many of those point to that being the case. And finally, say good-bye Tyler Bozak.

  • TheColborneUltimatum

    I would have liked to hear him say they’ll begin negotiations with Kessel and Phaneuf.

  • TheColborneUltimatum

    -Keon- He could easily be back. Especially if Grabo finds a new home.

  • Area49th

    The wheels have not fallen off the bus?  We still have not traded away our 1st round pick(though I like Kessel more each year and Seguin,less). At least we don’t have Torts

  • Area49th

    Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund https://twitter.com/Eklund/status/349645207190503425
    Updated my blog on Luongo/Flyers possibilities. Was told Luongo won’t be a Canuck much longer at all.

    • leafmealone

      Area49th I don’t get that guy. He claimed that the Flyer’s had a plan in place to acquire Lu, but then added “but not in a trade”. Well how does that work? Are they going to use mind control on Gillis to put him on waivers or buy him out? Cause Gillis would have to at least have a mind to control. 
      On the flip side though, if Gillis is forced to either buy out or give away this player when he had at some point actual offers of assets in return, then I’ll laugh til it hurts. Between Torts in that locker room and failing so epically solely based on his ego in demanding what everyone knew he couldn’t get, Van is getting what they deserve.

      • Area49th

        leafmealone Area49th Yeah. From what I hear Gillis is not well liked in the GM circles, must have hosed some teams as agent. Torts and Gillis, the show begins

        • leafmealone

          Area49th leafmealone lol, imagine that eh? An agent that nobody likes. 😉
          To be fair, I can understand one of the main reasons. It’s that as an agent, he stumped around claiming that he could GM better than the guys he was dealing with. So he got his chance without even remotely paying his dues, and stepped into a very successful organization as his first gig. He then took all the accolades for that team’s success for himself even though the work had been done by others. Now, that the team bears more of his fingerprints than anyone else’s, and now that it’s going down the drain, it’s not surprising that he is getting kicked while he’s down by the other members of the GM fraternity.

  • Loric76

    Interesting that he didn’t confirm that Komisarek is being bought out.  Not sure if he officially can’t yet, or if it’s yet another Dreger invention

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Loric76 He is probably waiting to see what other teams do or don’t do and perhaps he does take on another teams trash for some prospects. Then he either uses a compliance on Komi or even a regular buyout.

      • wendelsfist

        ingy56 Loric76 Optimism:  Maybe he is trying to trade him.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          wendelsfist ingy56 Loric76 I wish him luck. Komi too.

        • newkb

          wendelsfist ingy56 Loric76 Oh, just spewed my coffee on the keyboard.  Oh well, should cover up the smell of puke from the last thread.

        • leafmealone

          wendelsfist ingy56 Loric76 Trade Komi? This is a hockey blog, not a comedy club.

        • wiski

          leafmealone wendelsfist ingy56 Loric76 sometimes it is 😉

        • wendelsfist

          ingy56 Loric76 This needs even more optimism:  Komi for Dipietro + a king’s ransom

        • leafmealone

          wiski leafmealone wendelsfist ingy56 Loric76 Sadly not always intentionally. 😉

        • wendelsfist

          leafmealone wendelsfist ingy56 Loric76 apparently you don’t read enough of the posts on here

      • Loric76

        ingy56 Loric76 that’s what I’d expect him to do, but then Dreger announces that Komi’s being bought out.

    • newkb

      -Keon- Shift_Disturber1 Loric76 You rich SOB…

  • newkb

    Shift_Disturber1 Why does every answer sound like a “no comment” in disguise?

    • skiingallday

      newkb Shift_Disturber1 I like it, he operates in a totally different way that we’re used to. Leafs need to keep outta the spotlight.

      • Loric76

        skiingallday newkb Shift_Disturber1 still miss Burke’s rants tho

      • skiingallday

        Loric76 skiingallday newkb Shift_Disturber1 Or his ridiculous tie that he’d semi wear.

      • leafmealone

        skiingallday Loric76 newkb Shift_Disturber1 Only guy who’s ever used a tie as a cape in my experience. lol

  • Loric76

    lol
    https://twitter.com/StubitsCBShttps://twitter.com/StubitsCBS/status/349651245516075010
    Yup, here it is … Chart: Boston turns to porn after Game 6 loss in Stanley Cup Final http://t.co/GBncfNFuAx

    • wiski

      Loric76 LOL

    • skiingallday

      Loric76 lemme go check that out….. for science and stuff….

      • ProfessorRance

        skiingallday Loric76 LOL!

    • Uncle Otis

      Loric76 
      Haha..and that was just the team.
      Marchand; “Hey Segs…done with the furry glove?”

  • skiingallday

    Sid Seixero or however the fuck you spell his name never evolved from that little kid with ADHD. He’s nearly unbearable on air

    • whalz

      cant stand those 2 dumb fux

  • whalz

    so just looking at the recent signings of streit and Ginchar, 35 yrs old and 40 signed to 5mil and 5.25 mil ffs………..why do some people not think DION is worth 6mil? NONIS better sign him

    • whalz

      oppps..Gonchar

      • skiingallday

        -Keon- lol

    • leafmealone

      @whalz I look at those signings and wonder why people think Liles isn’t a tradeable asset.

      • newkb

        leafmealone wendelsfist whoa……stereo!

      • whalz

        exactly, im sure EDM or Calgary would love to get LILES

    • wendelsfist

      @whalz Also makes me think another puck mover like Liles is tradeable

      • whalz

        its going to be a great week speculating what NONIS might do,,,,,

    • Alec Brownscombe

      @whalz Because they’re fucking insane and seem more interested in dreaming up crazy fucking trade proposals than what’s actually good for the team.

      • leafmealone

        Alec Brownscombe I see the unwashed masses have finally ruffled your otherwise calm demeanour. lol

      • newkb

        I’m liking the new, edgier Alec.

        • Alec Brownscombe

          newkb inspired by Andrew Shaw.

        • leafmealone

          Alec Brownscombe newkb mmm, not enough profanity for that.

        • newkb

          Alec Brownscombe newkb You should be replacing all deleted posts with: Don’t you know who I am??   I’m Alec “BanHammered your MoFo Ass” Brownscombe

      • Loric76

        Alec Brownscombe So put you down for a no then on Phaneuf for a 7th?

      • Uncle Otis

        Alec Brownscombe 
        We, the little people or Dave and Tim? 😉

      • whalz

        u need a cold MGD….

    • The_Polish_Cannon

      @whalz Dion is worth 6 forsure. I’m just worried he’ll be asking for 7+

      • whalz

        he might…will be interesting to see………kessel will command 7mil aswell

  • leafmealone

    Shift_Disturber1 First one was great.

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

    New edgier Alec is my hero. Keep fighting the good fight brother.

    • Uncle Otis

      @LeoTheLion 
      What about Spiderman?

      • newkb

        Uncle Otis Yeah, you gotta go with Spiderman if you can.  But tough call.

      • leafmealone

        Uncle Otis I don’t know if anyone here watches Family Guy, but the “everybody gets one” line still kills me to this day.

        • newkb

          leafmealone Uncle Otis Bingo.

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/McKeensDraftGshttps://twitter.com/McKeensDraftGs/status/349659408529240064
    We’re just days away from the draft and our 2013 guide has you covered with detailed scouting reports and rankings: http://t.co/mnRFZ2g8P8

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/Matt_Frattinhttps://twitter.com/Matt_Frattin/status/349661570885877760
    Well that’s something a person doesn’t see everyday http://t.co/aneeUQEhEd

    • newkb

      wiski Scrivens new ride?

      • wiski

        newkb wiski I tweeted him that

    • Uncle Otis

      wiski 
      I think they just found the entrance to Tim Thomas’ bunker :)
      Philly will now sign him.

    • leafmealone

      wiski He should just be happy it’s not on fire.

      • wiski

        leafmealone wiski thats vancouver or Montreal

        • leafmealone

          wiski leafmealone I meant the tree. It’s just about wildfire season in California. If I was referring to the car, it would have been “surprised it’s not a Prius”.

        • wiski

          leafmealone wiski Funny how I thought it was the car. lol

        • leafmealone

          wiski leafmealone I just like the choice to capitalize Mtl, but not Van.

  • Pent_House

    Seems like a lot of the talk now is Gagner part of a sign and trade.

    • Uncle Otis

      Pent_House 
      And what are we giving up for the little guy?

    • newkb

      Pent_House Dammit….

    • leafmealone

      Pent_House Don’t get that one. I’d rather have our mgmt team do negotiations with him than Edmonton’s. And I would hope that he knew this, as he apparently really wants to play in this area so he would/should sign for a little less.

      • whalz

        i call bs……..they are also going to buyout Horcoff………that will leave RNH and Belanger as their only centres…gagner is not getting dealt.

      • Pent_House

        leafmealone Pent_House I’m kinda back and forth on this kid. I like his skating, hands, and vision but the size scares me. Kadri – Gagner as 1 and 2 is small, but if we have big wingers it can work. I also look at it as Kadri and Gagner as top two, but eventually it’ll be Colborne and Crescenzi as the bottom 2 guys, so it balances out. Safe to say, I’m torn on this one.

        • whalz

          so why not sign Weiss for free instead of giving up an asset (s)….unless its a LILES + a late draft pick ?

        • wiski

          Pent_House leafmealone Have a wyborowa kurwa and think about it. 😉

        • Pent_House

          wiski Pent_House leafmealone I can’t do it again today, I smashed back a Sobieski and Luksusowa last night, killed my entire day today.

        • Greg Fenton

          @whalz Gagner is probably going to be cheaper money wise, and they may know/think Gagner is better and worth giving up the asset to get and/or know/think that Weiss doesn’t want to play here.

        • whalz

          weiss has indicated before he would only accept a trade to the leafs.however age is on Gagne as he is 23? as opposed to Weiss at 30? i guess it all depends on the cost, but i think Kadri is our version of Gagne

        • Greg Fenton

          @whalz but that can change. Didn’t Nash put the Leafs on his list of teams he’d go too, then take them off? 
          Being older might be a plus in regards to Weiss. THe Leafs have very few older and veteran players. Adding a couple wouldn’t be a bad thing.

        • whalz

          i guess we will have to wait and see how this pans out,,,,,im looking fwd to seeing how NONIS reshapes this team

        • Pent_House

          @whalz I like Weiss because he’s pretty decent defensively but if he wants something like 5M then I wouldn’t want to do it. Term is key as well considering his age. Gagner would probably come cheaper cap-hit wise, but there’s the question marks of size and defensive ability. Tough one to judge.

        • Greg Fenton

          @whalz I’m interested too. There are 3 fairly new people in charge. Nonis was pretty quick in saying he was different then Burke and had a different outlook he took the job. And he took over when the team is really at a fork int he road. The next 12-16 months should be really interesting.

        • Pent_House

          Greg Fenton no kidding

        • whalz

          yeah i hear you,,,,,He wouldnt be a bad option but we would definatly need some size on the wings,

        • Greg Fenton

          Pent_House Gagner is bigger then Weiss, so that would go to him. 
          It also comes down too – do they take the best available or do they search for what/who they really want/need? Does anyone think Weiss is really the #1 center of a cup contending team? But he might be the best currently available. If they think Gagner can/will turn into Claude Giroux…..

  • wiski

    https://twitter.com/jmb22392https://twitter.com/jmb22392/status/349658015802224640
    https://twitter.com/wyshynski Toews’ face in the team Cup pic needs to be saved for future use http://t.co/xvWRYFujNn

    • Uncle Otis

      wiski 
      I think he’s admiring his reflection :)
      That, or still stunned that Kane got the Connie

      • leafmealone

        Uncle Otis wiski #concussedface

  • Long Sufferin Leaf Fan

    lol lots of f bombs being dropped in the interviews in the final … http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Playoffs/Chicago/2013/06/25/20927106.html?cid=rsssportsslam!%20hockey

    • wiski

      Long Sufferin Leaf Fan Like the real fucking world 😉

      • Long Sufferin Leaf Fan

        wiski Long Sufferin Leaf Fan love the way McGuire doesn’t even bat an eyelash, just ignores it and keeps soldiering on

  • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ Radar O’Rielly

    https://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksiehttps://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksie/status/349663942722859008
    NHL has notified GMs that league will not allow player to be traded, amnestied and then re-signed by original club, Post has learned.

    Yes this exactly what Nonis has planned for Komi…LOL

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Radar O’Rielly noooooooooooo

    • leafmealone

      Radar O’Rielly Guess that makes the Lightning less likely to trade Lecavelier then? Cause I don’t know too many other players this might have referred to.

      • Cameron19

        leafmealone Radar O’Rielly Briere.

        • leafmealone

          Cameron19 leafmealone Radar O’Rielly Well, Briere was already being bought out without being traded first, so they already had to wait a year.

        • Cameron19

          leafmealone Cameron19 Radar O’Rielly Yea, but they don’t want to buy him out. they just don’t want his 6.5 cap hit.

        • leafmealone

          Cameron19 leafmealone Radar O’Rielly It’s just saying that you can’t trade a player to be bought out by someone else, and then sign him back once the other team buys him out. And, it’s a moot point for them cause it’s already been announced.

        • Cameron19

          leafmealone Cameron19 Radar O’Rielly Right, announced, but they haven’t done it yet.  I’m sure Philly would give us a prospect or pick to swap Briere for Komisarek if it meant they could resign Briere two days later. But yea, they probably knew the resigns weren’t going to be allowed.

        • leafmealone

          Cameron19 leafmealone Radar O’Rielly Philly are the rebels of the NHL though.

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Radar O’Rielly i knew i heard this before …… believe it was meant to be in cba …..

    • Pent_House

      Radar O’Rielly Well there goes all those ideas. I’m guessing it’s Komisarek and maybe Liles for us if he can’t be traded.

      • leafmealone

        Pent_House Radar O’Rielly Pretty sure the DiPietro deal would still work. I highly doubt that getting him off the books through trading him to be bought out wasn’t contingent upon resigning him to play in the AHL.

        • ProfessorRance

          leafmealone Pent_House Radar O’Rielly Yeah the DiPietro deal can still work. Vinny deal is not happening now if it ever had a chance.

        • Pent_House

          leafmealone Pent_House Radar O’Rielly So what you’re saying is, teams can still trade their buy-out guys, and make those deals, but they just won’t be able to re-sign those guys again? That tweet didn’t really clarify it either way.

        • leafmealone

          Pent_House leafmealone Radar O’Rielly You have it correct there in your post.

        • whalz

          i read it as TB cant trade VINNY to Leafs to have the leafs buy him out and then VINY resigns with TB

        • mcloki

          ProfessorRance leafmealone Pent_House Radar O’Rielly TB still needs the fiscal relief.

        • leafmealone

          mcloki ProfessorRance leafmealone Pent_House Radar O’Rielly Not as much as they need him on the roster really. They could still buy out Malone though.

    • Greg Fenton

      Radar O’Rielly That makes sense. 
      They felt they had to make a rule…. I wonder if its just hte league trying to out think the GM’s, or if they knew/heard that someone was going to do this so they made the rule.

      • djamon

        Greg Fenton They can’t just “make a rule” unless the NHLPA signs off on it.

    • djamon

      Radar O’Rielly How can they stop it? Is there a rule specifically forbidding it?

      • Greg Fenton

        djamon Radar O’Rielly I imagine they just wouldn’t approve the original team resigning the player.

        • djamon

          Greg Fenton There has to be a reason to not approve it. Not because they don’t like it. They couldn’t do anything about all the Cap circumvention deals before the new CBA.

        • Greg Fenton

          djamon Greg Fenton I don’t know all the in’s and out’s of the CBA or what the league said. Though if they announced this I’d assume they can do it, or they wouldn’t have said anything.

        • djamon

          Greg Fenton Who said they announced it? Brooksie? 
          Yeah…take THAT with a grain of salt.

        • Greg Fenton

          djamon Greg Fenton Assuming the report is correct they did.

      • Jay_Berg

        Against the “spirit of the CBA”

        • mcloki

          Jay_Berg The CBA is against the spirit of the CBA.

        • Jay_Berg

          Lol it’s pretty dumb since in the nfl for example you can cut a player and then resign him.

    • Cameron19

      Radar O’Rielly It doesn’t say you can’t trade your buyout though.

      • Loric76

        Cameron19 Radar O’Rielly right, you just can’t resign the player you traded away after they’re bought out.  It’s just Lecav that this effects really

        • Cameron19

          Loric76 Cameron19 Radar O’Rielly And really, even then, there’s still 30 million reasons they would opt to move his contract.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Cameron19 Loric76 Radar O’Rielly this might be about brad richards …

    • lou19

      @Radar O’Rielly Bullshit NHL has no power in doing that.

    • mcloki

      Radar O’Rielly making up rules as they go along.

      • leafmealone

        mcloki Radar O’Rielly I prefer this to enforcing the rules only when it suits you (I’m looking at you Brendan Shanahan).

    • Alec Brownscombe

      Radar O’Rielly I already assumed this wasn’t allowed.

      • Loric76

        Alec Brownscombe Radar O’Rielly allowing it would essentially mean they allow contract restructuring

  • Loric76

    https://twitter.com/bryzgoalie30https://twitter.com/bryzgoalie30/status/332496740542472192
    You want to survive, you got to oink like the Imperial bucketheads. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23AngryBirdsStarWars&src=hash http://t.co/OuQidzWMUN

    lol if he was holding back the crazy while part of the Flyers org, he’s certainly not now

    • ProfessorRance

      Loric76 Wish we could just sign him to a tryout deal so we can have him on HBO.

      • Loric76

        ProfessorRance Loric76 we could bring him on as an assistant coach lol

        • ProfessorRance

          Loric76 ProfessorRance Sign him up. Coach Bryz lol

      • leafmealone

        ProfessorRance Loric76 I want him to replace Greg Millen on Leafs TV

        • Loric76

          leafmealone ProfessorRance Loric76 LOL

        • Pent_House

          leafmealone ProfessorRance Loric76 And speak in Russian during the broadcast.

        • leafmealone

          Pent_House leafmealone ProfessorRance Loric76 Like I could tell the difference what language he’s speaking. lol

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          leafmealone Pent_House ProfessorRance Loric76 Not unlike Millen.

        • newkb

          ingy56 leafmealone Pent_House ProfessorRance Loric76 Don’t forget to let a bear loose in the studio….

  • mcloki

    On a sidenote. I broke 300 Whoo Hoo!!!!

    • http://mapleleafshotstove.com/ LeoTheLion

      mcloki Who is giving this guy all his likes? 😉

      • mcloki

        @LeoTheLion mcloki Well I tried liking myself, but it doesn’t allow me to.

    • wiski

      mcloki you’re a shitty golfer then

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    still , i would be ok with a lecavalier and brett connolly for grabbo deal ….. would make sense for both teams and save bolts shit load of cash …..

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      they lose vinny , but get grabbo to take his spot ////

    • djamon

      unclejakescards With intention of buying Vinnie out? If so, that’s a terrible return for assuming that financial burden.

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        djamon unclejakescards naaa, i dont think so , askin for their 3rd overall is like askin for stamkos almost , bit too greedy imho …

        • djamon

          unclejakescards There are very few assets worth $30m. Certainly not Drouin.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          djamon unclejakescards connolly was a 6th overall pick !!! only problem with him is hes not a centre , but could eventually be parlayed into one …

        • Cameron19

          unclejakescards djamon He is a center.

        • Cameron19

          djamon unclejakescards It’s not really 30 million when you’re sending them Grabo.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Cameron19 ohhhhh , i thought he was a rw ??? !!!

        • djamon

          Cameron19 Fair enough. But if you’re buying out Vinnie then you’re paying someone to replace Grabs as well.
          And if you’re sending them Grabs they’re not going to bother. It’s probably a much less appealing prospect for them to pay him $22m than Vinnie $45m.

        • djamon

          Cameron19 Don’t think so. Listed as a RW and doesn’t take any draws.

        • Cameron19

          djamon Cameron19 Oh, must have been converted  Was drafted as a center.

      • ProfessorRance

        djamon unclejakescards I don’t that deal one bit. Screws us up financially if we keep Vinny and we don’t get enough assets if we buy him out.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          ProfessorRance djamon unclejakescards wouldnt have to buy him out now , depends on cap space for this year , could use him for this year then buy out next year …

    • Greg Fenton

      unclejakescards It saves the Lightning cash but it only clears up 2.227 in cap space for them, which is another issue they have. The rights to Bozak (if they an sign him for 3-3.5 million), I think would be more attractive to them. Colborne might be. 
      I think the only way the Leafs do the deal is if they want Lecavalier to be their center, I just don’t see the Lightning giving up the assets the Leafs (or at the fans) would want to see coming back to warrent a buy-out trade.

      • Cameron19

        Greg Fenton unclejakescards The Lightning don’t have cap issues.  They have an internal budget.  Being cap compliant will never be a concern for them.

        • 4evrblue

          Cameron19 Greg Fenton unclejakescards Would be a long term move in this case. Grabbo for 4 more years is much more bearable than Vinny for 7.

        • Greg Fenton

          Cameron19 Greg Fenton unclejakescards They need to sign 2 players and only have 2 .4 in cap space right now. They have cap issues, regardless of what their internal cap. They aren’t going to take a 5.5 million dollar player back, even if it saves 14.5 million in the long run.
          They need to create space under the cap, whether they intend to spend it or not (and they’ll need to spend some).

        • Cameron19

          Greg Fenton Cameron19 unclejakescards Ohlund guys to LTIR and those 2 players get his cap space. Done.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Cameron19 Greg Fenton unclejakescards ohlund hasnt played for 2 years , not comin back , plus they could buy out malone themselves , thats 4.5 …..

        • Greg Fenton

          Cameron19 Greg Fenton unclejakescards then its 3 players and 6 million, which is much more doable.  
          If they have a lower internal cap they still aren’t going to want to take 5.5 million back if they ship out Lecavalier. They’ll still want to clear out cap space/money.

        • Cameron19

          Greg Fenton Cameron19 unclejakescards lol, Well, they have a total of 32 million in cap space by swapping Grabovski for Lecavalier, and 16.5 million in cash over the next 4 years.  What are their other options, exactly?

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Greg Fenton Cameron19 unclejakescards their other problem is having another centre to play behind stamkos , grabbo solves that , a biy much for sure , but saves a poor team alot of money over next 7 years ,,,,

        • Greg Fenton

          Cameron19 Greg Fenton unclejakescards As I said, the swap would save 14.5 million total. 
          But you said they have an interal cap and budget. Moving out Lecavalier and bring in Grabovski only saves them 2.2 million right away, unless their interal cap is only alittle below the actual one, that doesn’t help them very much in the short term (next 2-3 years). 
          If they decide to move Lecvalier, who is still fairly productive, has good size, and is probably a big part of that locker room at this point, I don’t see them only saving 2.2 million dollars in the deal.

        • Greg Fenton

          unclejakescards Greg Fenton Cameron19 So would Bozak or Colborne, while saving them 2-3 times as much. Or promoting someone, or finding a UFA for 2-3 million etc… 
          I don’t think a trade is out of the question, I don’t think they’d take Grabovski back or that they’d give up what some people on here think they’d have to give up in a buy-out trade.

        • Cameron19

          Greg Fenton Cameron19 unclejakescards It is. Yzerman has said he can spend between 55 and 60 million.

          Also not sure where you’re getting 2.2 million from.  Grabovski makes 6 this year, while Vinnie makes 10. That’s 4 million in immediate savings, plus another 4 million next year, plus 4.5 million the following year, and finally 4 million in year 4.  After that they save 6.5 million over 3 years.

        • 4evrblue

          Greg Fenton Cameron19 unclejakescards They’re saving 2.2 cap but 4M salary for 2 more seasons, 3.5M salary for another season and then it flips, they spend 0.5M more the following year. They would be done with Grabs at that point while Vinny could potentially stay on for two more years and while his actual salary drops he could screw them cap wise. It would make financial sense for them to do the deal no matter what way you look at it IMO

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Cameron19 Greg Fenton unclejakescards Is this a rumor that came from media or is it a mlhs thing? Grabo for Vinny and Connolly?

        • Cameron19

          TheColborneUltimatum Cameron19 Greg Fenton unclejakescards Just a suggestion that they have other assets if not wlling to move the 3rd overall pick.

        • Greg Fenton

          Cameron19 Greg Fenton unclejakescards I was using their cap numbers, not what they’re making. 
          As of right now they have to shed 6 million to get to 55, and sign 2 players. Even after taking out Ohlunds 3.6 they have to cut more money. 
          As I said, I think a trade makes sense, but that they’d be after a Bozak or Colborne, not Grabovski.

  • leafmealone

    Dinner time. Stay classy MLHS.

    • Loric76

      leafmealone no chance

  • Loric76

    https://twitter.com/APetriellihttps://twitter.com/APetrielli/status/349669267811221504
    So the NHL has notified GMs that players can’t be traded, amnestied, then resigned by original team. These deals have to be being discussed.

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      Loric76 i wonder now if this is about lecavalier …. his nmc stands in the way ….. probly waive to come here and be bought out , then re-sign back in t-bay ………

      • MaxwellHowe

        unclejakescards Loric76 The NHL is so goddamn arbitrary.  If both parties and LeCavalier agree, then screw off. The Leafs are doing much to assist a weak florida franchise. 
        All the NHL seems intent on doing id punishing the successful franchises/  All due to the crazy idea that people in Miami will suddenly love a sport they never played and never will

        • Cameron19

          MaxwellHowe unclejakescards Loric76 I just hate how restrictive they are about all movement.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Cameron19 MaxwellHowe unclejakescards Loric76 I’m pretty sure these types of trades happen all the time in baseball and basketball.

        • Cameron19

          TheColborneUltimatum Cameron19 MaxwellHowe unclejakescards Loric76 Wasn’t that the essence of the big Jays trade last year?  Toronto basically helped a team that wanted to shed an insane payroll, but also took on good players?

        • Loric76

          MaxwellHowe unclejakescards Loric76 I actually think it’s the PA that’s pushing this agenda – they don’t want contract restructuring to be accepted behaviour, otherwise we’ll have teams fucking over players left and right like we see in the NFL

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Cameron19 TheColborneUltimatum MaxwellHowe unclejakescards Loric76 Pretty much.

        • djamon

          Loric76 I can’t see the PA being behind anything that restricts movement of any kind.

        • MaxwellHowe

          Cameron19 TheColborneUltimatum MaxwellHowe unclejakescards Loric76 The truly stupid thing about NHL opposition is the compliance buyouts are a one time event.  Not like some dangerous precedent will be set and repeated over and over

  • Komas Taberle

    All that means is two teams can’t have the player return after amnesty for 1 year, the original team and the buy out team, that still leaves 28 other teams the buy out can go to.

  • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

    hmmmm, another question is the no move clause ….. it probly still holds even if he gonna be traded to be bought out …. vinny has nmc i believe and could probly screw the whole deal ……. so this really blows …

    • Loric76

      unclejakescards that’s why trading with NYI makes more sense – DiPietro has no clauses that prevent a trade, they have more high end prospects to pick from (and I think Nonis will go for a prospect over a pick, same gameplan as Burke essentially), and Komi going the other way could help NYI get to the cap floor.  Plus if we’re going to help a team financially, help one not directly in our division…

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        Loric76 unclejakescards ya, but i was hoping for both , vinny and depietro buy outs , flex some money muscle ….

    • MaxwellHowe

      unclejakescards NMC would not make a difference if there was a handshake agreement that TB would sign him after he was bought out by the Leafs.  As long as the amount of the buyout and his new contract equalled the monies he would make on his current contract, why wouldn’t he? The move would help the entire team by lowering TB well below the salary cap.  Having said all the, the NHL might not appreciate TB signing him right back and accuse both teams of acting in bad faith. 
      But, you know.  Screw the NHL

      • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

        MaxwellHowe unclejakescards exactly , i believe this deal was the deal the league got wind of and is now trying to stop it from going down ……

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          unclejakescards MaxwellHowe Why would Gary even care? He’s making it a lot harder for teams to get under the cap with his dumb rules.

        • Loric76

          TheColborneUltimatum unclejakescards MaxwellHowe because it’s a loophole that essentially allows contract restructuring

      • Loric76

        MaxwellHowe unclejakescards I think you missed the tweet & subsequent discussion below that the league is saying teams can’t resign players that they’ve traded away who have then been bought out

        • MaxwellHowe

          Loric76 MaxwellHowe unclejakescards I just saw that.  Yes, god forbid being a successful franchise with a large fan base ever work to your advantage.  The NHL just makes it up as they go along

      • Cameron19

        MaxwellHowe unclejakescards Perhaps we simply have to take the gamble and put Vinnie on the roster for the year.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          Cameron19 MaxwellHowe unclejakescards ya, i already said that , as long as the cap space is there ….

        • MaxwellHowe

          unclejakescards Cameron19 MaxwellHowe Huge gamble though.

        • MaxwellHowe

          unclejakescards Cameron19 MaxwellHowe And Vinnie would not waive his NMC for that

        • Cameron19

          MaxwellHowe unclejakescards Cameron19 Probably not, but you never know.  “Vinnie, would you go play in Toronto for one year, get bought out, and then come back?” He might be up for it. Change of scenery. Extremely unlikely to happen now though, for sure…

        • Loric76

          MaxwellHowe unclejakescards Cameron19 waive him and bench him in the Marlies for the entire season.  Who in their right mind would claim that contract on waivers

  • TheColborneUltimatum

    How many years does Vinny have left on his contract?

    • Greg Fenton

      TheColborneUltimatumhttp://www.capgeek.com/player/884

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      TheColborneUltimatum think 7 , at 7.7 per

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Love to grab Darnell Nurse in the draft somehow.

    • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

      ingy56 he could actually end up being better then jones …..

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        unclejakescards ingy56 Yeah, he look like a prototypical shut down D with some offence. Saw him play Midget and he never got off the ice. The guys a workout animal too. Need to get in the top 10 to draft him methinks.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          ingy56 unclejakescards ya, maybe even top 6-7 …..

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          unclejakescards ingy56 Fathead has him at 9

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          ingy56 unclejakescards lolol close enough ……someone i know seen him play bunch of times told me if there ever was another potential pronger ….. nurse is it …

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          unclejakescards ingy56 Yep, I’d agree….first thing I thought of when I saw him play in Midget. Played with Max Domi for Don Mills Flyers.

        • http://stores.ebay.ca/UncleJakesCards?_rdc=1 unclejakescards

          ingy56 unclejakescards i just dont see leafs being interested in a dman tho …. lololol well you know .

    • Greg Fenton

      ingy56 well, if the Oilers are willing to move their pick, good chance he’d be there at 7. 
      The problem is it would cost a lot to get that pick from the Oilers

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Greg Fenton ingy56 That it would, perhaps a certain defenceman ? Oh-oh…opening up a large can of worms here LOL.

        • Greg Fenton

          ingy56 Greg Fenton I don’t think that deal makes any sense for the Leafs. 
          Why trade their captain and their best D-man for a prospect who is 2-3 years away unless its part of a full on rebuild movement? While I’d like to see, I don’t think the Leafs are going to do it. They’ve said they won’t move young players/prospects for old players, I also don’t see them moving core players who contribute for futures. 
          I could see maybe something like Rielly for the pick. The Leafs basically swap an offensive prospect for a defensive one (on paper, that hsould complement Gardiner better), and the Oilers get a prospect closer to making an impact.

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          Greg Fenton ingy56 Oh I agree…just speculating. Unless Nonis has another plan to bring in immediate help on the defence.

  • Loric76

    lol WTF is this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pold2C552T4&feature=youtu.be

    • JMAC17

      Loric76 yeah WTF

      • Loric76

        JMAC17 Loric76 can’t decide if it’s funny or annoying

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Fathead has Kirby Rychel at 21, right where the Leafs pick.

    • TheColborneUltimatum

      ingy56 What position is he?

      • Loric76

        TheColborneUltimatum ingy56 RW

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        TheColborneUltimatum ingy56 LW

        • 4evrblue

          -Keon- D

        • newkb

          4evrblue -Keon- G

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          -Keon- I haven’t seen him play, but Mac says he goes into the dirty areas to get his goals. Sounds like RC would like him.

        • Cameron19

          ingy56 -Keon- Frankly, I would rather trade the pick for a player who can help us now, not five years from now.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Cameron19 ingy56 -Keon- Package the pick with one of our d prospects for a center with upside.

        • 4evrblue

          Cameron19 ingy56 -Keon- sounds like a horrible idea without an example lol

        • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

          TheColborneUltimatum Cameron19 ingy56 -Keon- Like who though…Couturier?

        • Cameron19

          ingy56 TheColborneUltimatum Cameron19 -Keon- Stewart, Berglund, Stastny, anyone.

        • 4evrblue

          Cameron19 ingy56 TheColborneUltimatum -Keon- anyone? horrible idea then

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          -Keon- I really hope our first round pick is in play though. But only if we can get a center with upside who will stick around.

        • Cameron19

          4evrblue Cameron19 ingy56 TheColborneUltimatum -Keon- lol, Well, not anyone.  Just someone decent.

        • 4evrblue

          TheColborneUltimatum -Keon- it really depends on the player IMO. It has to be a Duchene or somebody like that. Really young, a hell of a lot of upside, really good already. It’s highly unlikely anybody like that is available so I would have to say no to trading that pick in this draft. I think we should use it to try to draft a future leaf and stop trying to push the envelope so soon.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          4evrblue TheColborneUltimatum -Keon- I was thinking Duchene too. Package some of our d and a pick and someone else for him.

        • Greg Fenton

          4evrblue TheColborneUltimatum -Keon- Why do they have to be young? What woul dbe wrong with getting a 28 year old, #1 center? You’d say no to Jeff Carter or Mike Richards?

        • 4evrblue

          Cameron19   lol yeah just teasin ya Cam, I know where you’re comin from but just think we should continue to build slowly and methodically.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton 4evrblue TheColborneUltimatum -Keon- No but only if they are locked up long term. We don’t want someone who will walk soon. If we get someone who’s an rfa it would be less risky.

        • Greg Fenton

          TheColborneUltimatum 4evrblue -Keon- Why would any team give up a young center like that for apick in the mid-20’s? 
          Teams that would give up a player for a pick would be teams that are rebuilding, and teams that are rebuilding will want to hold onto their young talent.

        • Cameron19

          Greg Fenton 4evrblue TheColborneUltimatum -Keon- So you don’t want Kessel, but you’ll take these bums whose production has slowed considerably and are anything but consistent?

        • Greg Fenton

          4evrblue Cameron19 But the Leafs haven’t been building slowly and methodically. Bringing in players like Kessel and Phaneuf and Versteeg, Lupul, and van Riemsdyk etc… are all effort to get better faster. 
          A slow, methodical rebuild would have involved drafting early several years in a row. 
          If Nonis can get a player who will help the team right away by moving that pick, I think he’d do it in a heart beat.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton TheColborneUltimatum 4evrblue -Keon- You’d have to package other things to the deal but these type of trades happen all the time. It’s time for the Leafs to make something big happen.

        • 4evrblue

          Greg Fenton why would any team give up a player like that for a pick like ours? They wouldn’t. Thats kinda the point. Thats the type of player I think we need and it would be hugely expensive to acquire that type of player so we should just continue to build as we are doing

        • Cameron19

          Greg Fenton 4evrblue Cameron19 What does it matter if they pick up their stars by drafting them in the bottom 5 or acquiring them through trade? Why is a player acquired in a trade inherently less valuable to you?

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton 4evrblue Cameron19 I dont think your giving this leaf team enough credit. Especially since they just had the most successful season in ten years.

        • ProfessorRance

          Cameron19 ingy56 TheColborneUltimatum -Keon- I’d move our first for Duchene or Letang.

        • Greg Fenton

          Cameron19 Greg Fenton 4evrblue TheColborneUltimatum -Keon- Just because I wouldn’t/don’t want them sign Kessel at 8.5 million a year doesn’t mean I don’t think they will. 
          I think Nonis is going to make a couple changes to the core of the team (bringing in Bernier and putting Phaneuf on the block), but he isn’t going to start rebuilding. Unless he can move Kessel for a better player I expect him to be resigned. 
          Given thats how I think they will move forward, IF he can get a player like Carter or Richards for that pick, I think he’d do it in a heart beat and it addresses their biggest need and makes them better right away.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton 4evrblue Cameron19 I want the leafs to either figure out a way to draft as high as possible and get a center that way or put together a package for one. We do have the pieces for a package.

        • Greg Fenton

          4evrblue Greg Fenton It would have to be a team rebuilding, that is looking to/willing to unload a player they don’t want to move forward with and that is looking for futures in return. I just used those 2 as exsamples, I don’t think the Kings would be interested in moving those 2 out.

        • Greg Fenton

          Cameron19 Greg Fenton 4evrblue It doesn’t, but drafting them is a much more realiabile way to get star players. Most teams/GM’s don’t like letting their best players go.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton 4evrblue If Colorado drafts Mackinnon I really hope we are talking to him. They need d and we have tons of d prospects.

        • 4evrblue

          TheColborneUltimatum Greg Fenton 4evrblue you should get the idea of Duchene out of your mind if thats what happens though. I just can’t see them moving him. Stastny makes more sense for them to move and I’d be happy to have him

        • Greg Fenton

          TheColborneUltimatum Greg Fenton 4evrblue Cameron19 Do they? ANd another team has to be willing to move their center as well. 
          What team out there is goign to move a #1 center?  Fundementally I agree with cameron’s position and if they can make that trade I think they will. FInding that trade is another thing altogether.

        • Greg Fenton

          4evrblue TheColborneUltimatum Greg Fenton Stastny might be someone in play, the question about him is, is he just an upgrade over what they have or is he the kind of #1 center that teams win cups with?

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton TheColborneUltimatum 4evrblue Cameron19 I’m not expecting Duchene at all. I’d be fine with Stastny though. But between Duchene Stastny O Reilly and Mackinnon someone has to go and O Reilly cant be moved yet.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton 4evrblue TheColborneUltimatum I think he’s an interesting reclamation project. We have better wingers than what he’s used to and he’d be always in a top 6 role.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton 4evrblue TheColborneUltimatum And I’d take one year of Stastny over multi  years of Weiss.

        • Greg Fenton

          TheColborneUltimatum Greg Fenton 4evrblue Cameron19 Someone may have to go, though they won’t be in a rush. It would still have to be a hockey trade for them. They can always play 1 or 2 of those guys on the wing. 
          Stastny might very well be the best option out there (or at least one of them). He might work out, he might not. Its a risk, and one they would be giving up a 1st rounder to take. I’m not saying they sholdn;t, just pointing out that they aren’t getting a 80+ point center.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton TheColborneUltimatum 4evrblue Cameron19 Well just look at how well Lupul did with us. Who’s to say Stastny couldn’t have a similar result?

        • Greg Fenton

          TheColborneUltimatum Greg Fenton 4evrblue Cameron19  He might, or he might remain a 50 point player.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton TheColborneUltimatum 4evrblue Cameron19 Then he’s gone next year. Stastny only has one year left. And he could be a stopgap 1C until Kadri is fully ready for it. Maybe by then Colborne is ready for a bigger role.

        • The_Polish_Cannon

          Greg Fenton TheColborneUltimatum 4evrblue -Keon- How bout rebuilding teams that have been stock piling an abudence in one area? i.e. the oilers have lots of young forward depth, but are lacking on D. As well as the AVS. These area potential trade partners for a team like the Leafs who have lots of young D in the system

        • Greg Fenton

          TheColborneUltimatum Greg Fenton 4evrblue Cameron19 The 1st rounder is a big price to pay for a stop gap, and if Kadri and/or Colborne aren’t #1 guys (I honestly don’t thikn either is)……..
          Not saying I wouldn’t make the deal or they shouldn’t. Just pointing out hte risks and down side.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton TheColborneUltimatum 4evrblue Cameron19 Well for Stastny we dont put the first rounder in but if one with more upside becomes available it should be considered.

        • Greg Fenton

          The_Polish_Cannon Greg Fenton TheColborneUltimatum 4evrblue -Keon- Potentially, but it would have to be a hockey trade. 
          If the Oilers are going to give up Yakupov or the Avs O’Rielly (I don’t think the other young players are moving), its going to cost the Leafs young assets that I don’t think they want to move. I would guess Rielly would be someone either team would be interested in. The Leafs have depth at D and the Oiler s(for example) have depth at forward (though not at center), but I don’t thnk Blacker gets you Yakupov.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          The_Polish_Cannon This is what I think is going to happen. I dont think Edmonton has the forward we’re looking for though. They wouldn’t give up Hopkins or Hall or Eberle. 
          I do think one of our d prospects will eventually be moved for a center prospect.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton The_Polish_Cannon TheColborneUltimatum 4evrblue -Keon- I’d hate to do business with the Oilers and help them out. But we have too many defense prospects. Sooner or later someone will get moved. It only makes sense to flip one for a center.

        • Greg Fenton

          TheColborneUltimatum The_Polish_Cannon I don’t think Nonis is shopping for prospects. I think he wants players.

        • Greg Fenton

          TheColborneUltimatum Greg Fenton The_Polish_Cannon 4evrblue -Keon- The leafs have a lot of defensive prospects, but unlike the Oilers young forwards, not many have made the NHL yet. Rielly, Finn, Blacker, Holzer, Percy…. at least one or two of those guys should be players, but as of now they are unproven. 
          That 1) will lower their trade value compared to someone like Yakupov and 2) Means they could make a Pogge/Rask mistake again.

        • TheColborneUltimatum

          Greg Fenton TheColborneUltimatum The_Polish_Cannon 4evrblue -Keon- Package one of the d prospects with Grabo then. Point is it looks like they will be trading to solve this problem so i was just spitballing ideas.

  • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

    So….all these questions for Nonis and not one about the Phaneuf rumors??  Rather odd.
    I’m starting to think Ingy may be on to something last night when he mentioned the possibility of Dion telling Nonis he had no intention of extending in Toronto…and Nonis feeling the market.  Could be something to it.

    • Cameron19

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Put the weed away Bon. Your paranoia is showing.

      • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

        Cameron19 Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
        LOL…haven’t even rolled one up yet today.
        Just spit-balling here with the Dion stuff coming out of left field with Dreger.

      • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

        Cameron19 Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
        I do find it strange that Nonis wasn’t asked directly about Dion.  I would have asked him.

        • Cameron19

          Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Cameron19 He was at some point today asked if he expected Dion on the starting roster, and he said yes.

        • Bon Scott was a Leaf fan

          Cameron19 Bon Scott was a Leaf fan 
          Ahh…ok.  Good stuff!!  I may bitch about Dion from time to time…but  I still want him to remain a Leaf.

    • TheColborneUltimatum

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan He’s not even allowed to extend yet. Give him until the end of the summer to figure it out.

    • Loric76

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan sometimes, the MSM is actually smarter than the fans.  It’s rare but it happens.  They’re not dumb enough to believe Nonis would actually move Phaneuf

    • Xxxxxnew

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Could be something to the rumour they’re bringing back Jonas Frogren too.

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Nonis was coy when I heard him on the Fan 590. He’s not going to get pinned down with a careless statement about any player.

    • Komas Taberle

      Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Bon they asked him today on the fan if Phaneuf is going to be in the line up come October and Nonis said yes, there are not too many guys I would trade him for.. Weber, Sutter, OLE… I would love to get OLE for him but that would be a no go from Phoeneix.

  • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

    Burke up next on the TSN mock draft.

  • Loric76

    Burke on TSN TV in few minutes, part of the mock draft crap

    • wendelsfist

      Loric76 Burke quote:  “I have that guy ranked first”

  • Loric76

    -Keon- ya he’s rockin a mullet

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    Burke is rocking the flow

  • Jordan29

    Fuck I love Burke. Man why is he gone

    • B_Leaf

      -Keon- 
      LOL

    • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

      Jordan29 http://www.sidelinehotties.com/images/2008/01/hazel-mae-5.jpg

    • Xxxxxnew

      Jordan29 Nice the way he broke down the first round in terms of deal potential

    • Komas Taberle

      Jordan29 What’s he doing in Charlottetown, PEI

      • Komas Taberle

        Jordan29 Attending Phaneufs stag party?

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Komas Taberle Jordan29 Buying a condo from Doug MacLean?

        • Komas Taberle

          ingy56 Komas Taberle Jordan29 A condom maybe!

  • Loric76

    -Keon- he looked and sounded tired

  • Xxxxxnew

    Some guys who filled out the Leafs roster 5 years ago.
    Jeff Finger, Lee Stempniak, John Mitchell, Boyd Devereaux, Mike Van Ryn, Jeremy Williams, Jonas Frogren, Brad May, Ryan Hollweg, Phil Oreskovic, Jaime Sifers, Christian Hanson, Carlo Colaiacovo, Andre Deveaux, Jay Harrison, Tim Stapleton, Ben Ondrus, Kris Newbury

    • newkb

      -Keon- Wasted oxygen?

    • Xxxxxnew

      -Keon- Jason Blake was our leading point and goal getter that year.

    • Jantz

      Xxxxxnew How did we win a game ?

  • B_Leaf

    That is a strong 16-20 draft

    • 4evrblue

      B_Leaf Looks great right now. I can’t wait to see what happens on sunday

  • Loric76

    commercial before Leafs pick guarenteed

    • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

      Loric76 You called it man.

    • Loric76

      see told ya

  • B_Leaf

    Gauthier to Toronto

    • 4evrblue

      B_Leaf you called it

    • Loric76

      B_Leaf good call.  not sure I’d be proud of thinking the same as Button tho lol

      • http://i.imgur.com/MyKj5C3.gif ingy56

        Loric76 B_Leaf I bet Burke wouldn’t have drafted him.

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    I really want the Leafs to take Rychel if they don’t trade the pick… but I got a feeling a team goes off the board for him.

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    hoolihan you mean Burke?

    • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

      hoolihan RielledUp ahh I didn’t notice the “II” there.

  • 4evrblue

    Button says Hartman @ 22, he’s my boy in this draft

  • http://twitter.com/jmckelvie RielledUp

    I would wayyyyyyyyyyy rather Hartman than Gauthier…

  • Loric76

    with livefyre do you guys have the site basically die for a few minutes and then have 20 posts all show up at once?  been happening to me ever since the move, much more noticeable lately with how busy the sites been

    • Komas Taberle

      Loric76 Morin is my pick for the Leafs