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Maple Leaf Hangout Episode #9 with Anthony Petrielli

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Anthony Petrielli joins Michael and Michael to talk about the 7-1 Ducks coming to town, the Leafs‘ recent struggles, team identity confusion, poor possession play, the return of Clarkson this Friday, and more.

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Gilbey93
Gilbey93

When I look at our top 6, I always think of other lines or teams that had a dominate line. To me Most teams ( other then probably Pittsburgh and maybe the windy city) usually have a Top 3 that has a Superstar, a Star and a complementary player. 

Such as Lindros(superstar), Leclair(star) and Renberg(CP) or Ovi(SS), Backstrom(Star), Knuble(CP)

We Have Kessel who is a 1or 2 on most teams in the league

JVR and Lupul are 3's on most teams

Kadri is a 4 right now

and Clarkson and Bozak are 6's

What I mean by 6's is that on most playoff teams they would have to be the 6th best player in that top 6

I don't know if that makes sense, but it does in my head


theacs1966
theacs1966

I know some people hate him but didn't Cherry bring up Hall and showed how reckless he was?  Or was that RNH?  Prophetic.

theacs1966
theacs1966

Anyone want Kulikov?  I can see T.O. being interested but why would FLA want to trade him, he's only 22 and a 14th overall pick?

Scottish Leaf
Scottish Leaf

Evening everyone, think we will be involved in a very, very tough game tonight. I have watched 3 Ducks games this season and they are pretty awesome to watch. Even with their PP and PK not clicking they are generating a boat load of chances. Bernier is going to be busy tonight but I think we will sneak it 3-2

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Taylor Hall out for at least a month again I see. ACL.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Leafs giving up 3 more shots against per game than Colorado.

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@Gilbey93 Its a group not unlike the mid-2000's Sabers offense. Good depth, a couple of Star players, but lacking in that real top talent. 

dlb meh
dlb meh

@Gilbey93 

yep.  makes sense to me.  in the same sense, you can break down the 3rd and 4th lines but "stars" takes on a different sense.

if you also look at the CAP hits now and predict what they could be next year, there's room to add a "star" to the top line as long as the salary allocation is reset more appropriately in the bottom part of the lineup.

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Makes sense. You'll always get an argument over some assigned numbers, but it works as a general snapshot.

Gilbey93
Gilbey93

WHat I'm trying to say is that we have one boarderline superstar and 2 Complementary players but we don't have a Star like a Backstrom or a Leclair

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Hall. RNH is just a small guy. 31 pounds lighter than Morgan Rielly.

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@theacs1966 His development as stalled apparently, hasn't really improved since he broke into the league 3-4 years ago. 

I don't think he'd be someone NOnis would be interested in. A project player who's development has stalled. They have enough young, developing D-men they don't need to give another roster spot to another one. Plus he is Russian and his contract is up, so that KHL flight risk thing has to be a factor. 

Pent_House
Pent_House

@theacs1966 Too much of what we already have. We need a two-way or defensive d-man. We need some snarl back there. 

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Need the forwards to coordinate with our D better.

Dan39
Dan39

@Jmessih I'm going to the game tonight and if I don't see a higher level of toughness, I'm going to be pissed. Falling behind on fighting majors and I'm sure hits are the same. We don't play our game, we lose. 



theacs1966
theacs1966

@Burtonboy Yes, astute.  From the no shit dept.  I can stop them if they're shooting from centre.

ConnorCrisp
ConnorCrisp

@Burtonboy either way it helps pad his stats when people take shots form the blue line at him :)

Komas Taberle
Komas Taberle

@Burtonboy Bernier is bang on, the Leafs allow shots from the boards to the face off dot but very few in the 20 foot area prime slot.

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@Gilbey93 They have that Star level guy in Kessel, they are missing the superstar. 

The problem is the higher up a chart like that you go, the harder the player is to aquire. 

Pent_House
Pent_House

@Gilbey93 Lupul isn't a star? Kadri isn't a star? kind of weird assessment. They're definitely more than complimentary players. I'd say Bozak and Clarkson are the complimentary pieces in our top6. 

Ze_theLeafsFan
Ze_theLeafsFan

@Gilbey93 I understand and I agree with what you are saying. I think we can all agree that even though Bozak is not the ideal candidate for the 1C slot, we have a pretty good Top 6. Where we might need an improvement is the Bottom 6 as our 4th line is not as good as we would like it to be eventhough we have the necessary players to make it work. I am Ok with our forwards even with both Orr and FML as they play very little minutes, therefore our top 9 would get more ice time. 

One area of concern is our D. The D hasn't look really good yet and it is an area of improvement.

theacs1966
theacs1966

@Greg Fenton @theacs1966 No idea what kind of player he is.  NOt a lot of offense in his stats.  I say we need a stay at home nasty Dman to play with Phaneuf.  We have enough PMD's or 2 ways D, we need to hurt some people.

Jon5200
Jon5200

@Pent_House @theacs1966 snarl on the way.....Fraser due back next week.....if no one else gets injured we should have Clarkson/Mclaren back this Friday vs Columbus and Kulemin/Fraser back for next weeks western road trip.........i hope................

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

He and RNH have piled up the damage on the joints and skulls in their short careers.

theacs1966
theacs1966

@Ze_theLeafsFan @Pent_House @Gilbey93 If you would accept a new class.  They are emerging stars.  Lupul hasn't been in one place long enough till now, and Kadri just needs to prove it for another season and I'd call him a star.  IF he got more that 16 minutes a night and played with Kessel, he'd be a point a game player or more, he's close to that now.

Ze_theLeafsFan
Ze_theLeafsFan

@Pent_House @Gilbey93 I wouldn't classify Kadri as a star yet. He gets a lot of attention,  but his play is not proven yet over a long stretch imo

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@theacs1966 @Greg Fenton They don't need to hurt anyone, they need players that play good defense. Personally, I'll always take the two-way D-man over the Offensive or Defensive guy. 

Jon5200
Jon5200

@Pent_House @Jon5200 @theacs1966 totally agree on the identity comment.....they have definitely been missing the 'sandpaper' in the lineup......the only reason i think Mclaren can come back Friday is i saw a tweet yesterday on the TSN site that said he had to b out 10 games when put on LTIR which would mean he could come back when Clarkson can....

Pent_House
Pent_House

@Jon5200 @Pent_House @theacs1966 I'm almost certain I read that McLaren has to be out until the 11th game, making him eligible to return Saturday, but I could be wrong. Either way, the sooner he's back the better. 

Jon5200
Jon5200

@Pent_House @Jon5200 @theacs1966 agreed....but Mclaren is eligible for Friday's game.....if u r put on LTIR u must be out 10 games.....in essence he's out as long as clarkson and both can come back Friday.......

Pent_House
Pent_House

@Jon5200 @Pent_House @theacs1966 I believe McLaren isn't eligible to come back until saturday, in regards to time spent on IR. We definitely need all those boys to come back though, they're the back-bone to the identity of this team. 

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

I don't think some of them were physically ready for the nastiness of an 82 game NHL season. I can see the long-term benefit of letting a teen grow for a few seasons, esp. RNH who is pretty tiny. I read an article last week where his junior coach was surprised the minutes RNH had been given initially by the Oilers because he couldn't physically handle over 20 minutes in junior.

Dan39
Dan39

@Jmessih @Dan39 Well, if we get out-shot, it counts as a loss no matter what the score. Right?