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Production by Top 6 Wingers: How Do the Leafs Stack Up?

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During my interview with Scott Gordon, the Leafs assistant coach said something that caught my attention when he noted: “This year our top six is [made up of] guys who have had pretty good track records of scoring goals.”

The injury to Joffrey Lupul for the majority of the shortened season really put the lineup out of whack. As Grabovski played a shutdown role, the Leafs second scoring line was basically MacArthur-Kadri-Frattin for quite some time until Lupul returned and the line turned into Lupul-Kadri-Kulemin, a unit which no doubt did some serious damage.

This summer the Leafs threw big money at David Clarkson to round out the top six forwards while adding some jam to the group, and it’s pretty safe to say the Leafs top six wingers will be Kessel, JVR, Lupul and Clarkson to start the season.

I thought it was interesting of the Leafs to allocate so much cap space to the wings and for Gordon to then bring up their track record with us at MLHS. With that, I wanted to see how the Leafs stacked up against teams across the league. Here are the results based on the 2011-12 and 2013 seasons (max GP/player within these parameters is 130):

Teams
Top Six Wingers
Goals/Points/Games
Total Goals
Total Points
Games
PPG
Total Cap Hit
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
PittsburghNeal61/117/1201793955100.77$14,600,000
Kunitz48/113/134
Dupuis45/97/134
Jokinen25/68/122
BostonEriksson38/100/1341633795080.75$20,750,000
Lucic33/88/127
Marchand46/91/121
Iginla46/100/126
ChicagoKane46/121/1291493654710.77$23,775,000
Hossa46/108/121
Sharp39/89/102
Bickell18/47/119
New JerseyElias40/114/1291463644910.74$17,850,000
Jagr35/89/118
Clowe20/64/116
Ryder51/97/128
WinnipegWheeler36/105/1281613544970.71$18,250,000
Kane47/90/122
Ladd46/96/130
Setogouchi32/63/117
TorontoKessel57/134/1301673454310.8$20,150,000
JVR29/56/91
Lupul36/85/82
Clarkson45/70/128
EdmontonHall43/103/1061433394440.76$20,812,500
Eberle50/113/126
Perron31/67/105
Hemsky19/56/107
CapitalsOvechkin70/121/1261513374850.69$17,705,129
Johansson20/68/114Johansson RFA
Brouwer37/66/129
Erat24/82/116
DallasBenn28/96/1121243364590.73$17,500,000
Whitney35/106/114
Cole44/74/129
Peverley17/60/104
ColoradoTanguay24/76/1041153304600.72$16,075,000
O'Reilly24/75/110
Parenteau36/110/128
Landeskog31/69/118
FlyersHartnell45/78/1141633254880.67$13,875,000
Simmonds43/81/127
Voracek40/95/126
Read35/71/121
DetroitZetterberg33/117/1281313244970.65$17,337,878
Alfredsson37/85/122
Franzen43/87/118
Abdelkader18/35/129
Tampa BaySt. Louis42/134/1251103103840.81$15,500,000
Purcell35/101/129
Malone26/56/92
Killorn7/19/38
MinnesotaParise49/107/1301363024140.73$20,518,462
Heatley35/74/118
Pominville44/107/129
Coyle8/14/37
NYRNash51/101/1261443004670.64$15,625,000
Callahan45/85/121
Hagelin24/62/112
Pouliot24/52/108
San JoseMarleau47/95/1301362884890.59$18,660,000
Burns20/57/111
Torres22/44/118
Pavelski47/92/130
CalgaryCammalleri33/73/1101322844480.63$15,050,000
Hudler35/77/123
Stempniak23/60/108
Glencross41/74/107
CarolinaSemin34/98/1211192834330.65$19,075,000
Tlutsy40/74/127
Ruutu22/43/99
Skinner23/68/86
VancouverSedin42/107/1191312824490.63$16,200,000
Burrows41/76/127
Booth17/33/74
Hansen26/66/129
OttawaRyan42/87/1281342804700.6$13,500,000
Michalek39/74/100
MacArthur28/63/113
Greening25/56/129
NYIMoulson51/113/1291322774590.6$10,933,333
Bouchard17/42/80
Okposo28/69/127
Grabner36/53/123
KingsBrown40/83/1281352704420.61$12,585,227
Williams33/92/130
Carter47/67/103
Frattin15/28/81
ColumbusGaborik53/103/1291232694490.6$21,600,000
Umberger28/58/125
Dubinsky12/54/106
Horton30/54/89
PhoenixVrbata47/90/1111232654860.55$10,800,000
Doan35/77/127Boedker RFA
Boedker18/50/130
Korpikowski23/48/118
MontrealPacioretty48/104/1231172574090.63$16,833,333
Briere22/65/104
Gionta22/41/79
Bourque25/47/103
BuffaloVanek46/102/1161072464160.59$18,455,357
Stafford26/48/126
Leino10/31/79
Ennis25/65/95
FloridaFleischman39/96/1301032443860.63$15,094,167
Versteeg25/58/81
Kopecky25/59/127
Huberdeau14/31/48
NashvilleStalberg31/66/1261022254350.52$11,250,000
Hornqvist31/57/100
Wilson22/54/93
Smith18/48/116
St. LouisSteen23/55/83902143580.6$12,854,167
Oshie26/74/110
Stewart33/66/127
Tarasenko8/19/38
AnaheimPerry52/96/124851743300.53$12,991,667
Palmieri14/28/60
Silfverberg10/19/48
Penner9/31/98

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Note: Not every team has a clear cut group of top six wingers. If I wasn’t sure about who to fill out the group with, the general rule of thumb I went by was taking the next highest scoring winger on the team; to me, that best indicates the fire power a team has. For example, with Pittsburgh I’m betting Beau Bennett eventually claims the final top six winger spot, but going into camp that spot is up for grabs between a bunch of players such as Bennett, Matt D’Agostini and Jussi Jokinen (yes, I realize he played mainly center in Pittsburgh, but he can do both). I wrote in Jokinen since he was the highest scorer. Even for the teams where I’m fairly confident about the composition of their top six wingers — like Yakupov in Edmonton over Hemsky — I stuck with the guy who has more points to better represent the scoring prowess of teams across the league.

Quick thoughts:

- First thought: If the Bolland line is the excellent shutdown unit the Leafs seem to think it can be, the Leafs should win enough games. They have good goaltending and can clearly score, so they should be in good shape if they have those two things and an excellent shutdown line to complement them. That seems to be the plan.

- The Leafs’ 0.80 PPG ranks them second to only Tampa Bay’s 0.81 in scoring by top 6 wingers. Their $20,150,000 allocated to their top 6 wingers is sixth most league wide. Their 167 goals stand second to only Pittsburgh.

- Would be nice if Lupul could stay healthy. He’s missed 48 of the last 130 games.

- Kessel is unbelievable. If you didn’t catch this stat, he is tied with Martin St. Louis for the most points by a winger over the last two years.

- You can see why the Ducks want Teemu Selanne back.

- New Jersey probably surprised quite a few people with their ranking. Their top six is old, but they still know how to score. The Devils have a strong one-two punch down the middle with Zajac and Henrique, plus they have Schneider now. I believe they will be better than people think.

- Winnipeg’s problem is goaltending, but most people have known this for a while.

- For one reason or another, I thought Ottawa would be higher. Ryan is a big name, MacArthur is a decent scorer and Michalek has been good when healthy, but who the final top six winger will be is unknown. Michalek hasn’t been able to stay healthy either which has hurt them.

- Not that it’s all the current GM’s fault, but Columbus sure spends a lot of money on subpar(?) production from their top six wingers.

- Even though the top three teams on this chart are elite, I don’t necessarily believe there is a strong correlation between having a high scoring group of wingers and winning. That said, it’s nice to see those teams rank well because the Leafs are clearly putting their eggs in this basket.

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1259 comments
skiingallday
skiingallday

It astounds me how @Greg Fenton can laugh and ridicule us for saying how much we love Kessel and how he's a franchise player, and then when we call him out he claims it wasn't him.

Spayde_D
Spayde_D

I'm bored and although I doubt anyone really cares, I decided to look with a little more detail at the claim (made several times by the Leaf organization) that the Leafs close the gap in being outshot when it comes to quality shots. Yesterday I looked at the Playoffs and posted it somewhere in this thread. I did the same thing just now. 

I looked at shots from the top-middle of the circles to the goal line, justifying this as a quality shot. Because I got bored of doing this, I only did March and April.

MAR - Shots For = 328 --- Shots Against 382 --- Diff. -54 (0.86)
Qual. Shots For = 163 --- Qual. Shots Against 176 --- Diff. -13 (.93)

APR - Shots For = 275 --- Shots Against 403 --- Diff. -128 (0.68)
Qual. Shots For = 148 --- Qual. Shots Against 193 --- Diff. -45 (.77)

I did not do this to start up a Corsi debate. Just lonely and looking for some positive outlooks. In terms of quality shots they do fare better (7-9%). Does this mean anything at all... Who knows? GO LEAFS GO.


Leafs rule
Leafs rule

Holy ,I just discovered a site On Facebook called Leafs Rule and they welcomed me after I told them it was purley accidental ,Leaf fans abound everywhere lol

DeclanK
DeclanK moderator

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Cameron19
Cameron19

How did it work on the cap with Tim Thomas when he decided to not show up for the last year of his contract?  I know the Islanders elected to keep the cap hit on the roster, and that's why they "acquired" him, but did the Bruins have the option of suspending him and removing his cap hit?

Xxxxxnew
Xxxxxnew

Kessel is tied with Martin St.Louis for the most points by a winger over the past two seasons. .

dlb meh
dlb meh

Kessel is a game breaker in 95% of the games he plays.  he shows up as much as anyone else in the league and rarely takes a night off.

in the playoffs he does nothing but dominate when he's on the ice.

i played defense, and i was matched against the best players in the league.  a quality defenseman wins 99% of those 1 on 1 battles.  even the great Chara struggles to shut Kessel down and doesn't best him at that rate.

Kessel is awesome

lukethenuke
lukethenuke

Im really liking USAs team...

Parise Kane Ryan

JVR Pavelski Kessel

Callahan Kesler Pacioretty

Brown Stepan Galchenyuk/ Okposo


.

Yandle Suter

McDougn Orpik

Johnson Shattenkirk

.

AAnd take your pick for goaltending WOW

Quick, howard miller, Anderson

djamon
djamon

@lukethenuke So awesome. Just barely getting into it...can't wait until they learn who they get.

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@skiingallday @Greg Fenton I try to only laugh at the people who treat met he same way, I'm sorry if I have come off that way to everyone. 

When did I deny my opinion of Kessel, or any other player? 

skiingallday
skiingallday

@Spayde_D so it looks like they did close the gap, but are still significantly behind the other team. Although, can't rely just on stats.... but this confirms our suspicions that Reimer is indeed a great goalie

Leafs rule
Leafs rule

@DeclanK lol ,u beat me posting this ,I was surprised re the history and the humour

Biltmore
Biltmore

@Cameron19 

Yes the Bruins had the option of suspending him and removing the cap hit. 

DeclanK
DeclanK moderator

@Xxxxxnew 

Settle down. He's no lock to make the team, or even the top 6.

dlb meh
dlb meh

@Greg Fenton

you disagree? if Chara lets up an inch, you don't think Kessel blows by him? and do you think any other forward in the league betters Chara as often as Kessel did in the playoffs last year?

did you play forward or defense? as a defenseman, not only could i stop the best forwards from getting around me, i could also stop them from getting the puck to someone unless they were uncovered, and even then there was good odds i'd break the play up.

that's just what a good defenseman does. Chara beats Kessel regularily, but not more often than he beats the rest. and Chara is exhausted when he faces Kessel. Kessel is as tough a challenge as he gets.

Leafs rule
Leafs rule

@dlb eheven the great Chara struggles to shut Kessel down .yea and Kessel isnt afraid of no Chara ,he can suc it to lol

DeclanK
DeclanK moderator

@lukethenuke 

Bias aside, I'd put Kessel on the 1st line. That'd be a super fast line.

Pent_House
Pent_House

@lukethenuke Kesler shouldn't be on the team, he's washed up. Backes should definitely be on there. 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@lukethenuke Also, I won't be surprised if he makes it, but Johnson is terrible.  I doubt Yandle plays on the top pair, too.  He doesn't even do that for the Coyotes. 

dlb meh
dlb meh

@lukethenuke 

meh.  who cares.  Kessel looks good in a Leafs uniform, but he's surrounded by a bunch off dickears on that team.

Canada for Gold.  the rest can suck it.

Cameron19
Cameron19

@lukethenuke There's no way Kessel is playing on the 2nd line in favor of Bobby Ryan.  That said, it'll be Kane on the right wing on the top line - he's not a center.  More likely:

-

Parise - Pavelski - Kane

J.V.R. - Stastny - Kessel

Pacioretty - Kesler - Ryan

Brown - Backes - Callahan

(Stepan, Oshie)

Spayde_D
Spayde_D

@skiingallday @Spayde_D Absolutely. It could also mean that we don't shoot from the point enough, but that's a whole other can of worms lol

wendelsway1
wendelsway1

@DeclanK @Xxxxxnew Absolutely.....and why the hell do we want this scrub on our Leafs......horrible player.......Nonis should do whatever it takes to get us a better player....Toews comes to mind   ;)

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@DeclanK @Xxxxxnew Ya, its impossible that Kessel could be out played by anyone. If the ice-melted he'd just walk across the rink........

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@dlb eh @Greg FentonAnd, if you only break down his goals (since he first and foremost a sniper), he had 32 of the 57 goals over the last 2 years int he same 45 games. That means 56% of his goals came in only 35% of the games. That means in the remaining 85 games he only scored 25 goals (24 pro-rated). Thats not showing up every night and being a game breaking game in and game out. 

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@dlb eh @Greg Fenton He isn't a game breaker in 95% of the games he plays and he doesn't show up as much as anyone else. His game log stats prove. Someone mentioend he was tied with St. Louis for most points over 2 years. Kessel scored 46% of those points in 35% of the games. Thats not showing up every single game, and it would appear that 65% of the time defense are able to contain him pretty well. 72 points over 85 games (54% of his prodution over 65% of the games), not horrible but not game breaking either. Pro rated its 69 points. 

He did play very well int he playoffs (and in the last 24 games last year), if he can play an entire season like that, he'll have lived up to praise he gets from some people on here, and I'll say as much. I just need/want to see him do it first. 

dlb meh
dlb meh

@Greg Fenton

you disagree? if Chara lets up an inch, you don't think Kessel blows by him? and do you think any other forward in the league betters Chara as often as Kessel did in the playoffs last year?

did you play forward or defense? as a defenseman, not only could i stop the best forwards from getting around me, i could also stop them from getting the puck to someone unless they were uncovered, and even then there was good odds i'd break the play up.

that's just what a good defenseman does. Chara beats Kessel regularily, but not more often than he beats the rest. and Chara is exhausted when he faces Kessel. Kessel is as tough a challenge as he gets.

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@DeclanK @lukethenuke It will depend on how Kessel does int he USA camp, how he does during the regular season, who he clicks and plays well with, how he plays at the tournment itself, and how everyone else does in those same situations. 

He'll most likely make the team, beyond that.....

WendelsBrain
WendelsBrain

@Greg Fenton I agree with what you are saying about Kessel in general, but it probably applies to most goal-scorers in the league.

Why do you try to argue on here? From what I have seen it always turns into everyone circlejerking in how much they hate you (warranted hatred or not).

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@Spayde_D @Greg Fenton @skiingallday @dlb eh I'm not just coutning up Kessel's multi goal and point games. In 2011-2012 Kessel played and produced extremely well int he firsr 21 games, and then tailed off (and tailed off again for the last 15-20 games). Last year he had only 4 goals and 20 points int he first 24 games, and followed it up with 16 goals and 32 points int he second 24 games. 

I'm not cherry picking the good games and lumping them together, his play is up and down. Last year he went from being on pace for 8 goals to scoring at a 32 goal pace. Thats a significant increase in play and production.The year before he went from playing at a 62 goal pace to playing at a 

Spayde_D
Spayde_D

@Greg Fenton @skiingallday @dlb eh I don't see the relevance in this though Greg. In 2011-2012 Stamkos scored 28 goals of his 60 (47%) in 13 games (16%). This means that the remaining 84% of games he scored roughly the same. Is he inconsistent as well?

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@skiingallday @Greg Fenton @dlb eh You can have multi. point nights and don't have to score every single night and still be consistent. Sorry, but getting over 50% of your goals in 35% of the games.....that just a sign of inconsistency.  

Jay_Berg
Jay_Berg

Lol what a meaningless argument you are trying to make. Brutal

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@skiingallday @Greg Fenton I have, players like Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Datsyuk, Toews, Kane etc... (last year) all had much closer totals between their 1st and 2nd halves. 


skiingallday
skiingallday

@Greg Fenton 

Here's an idea, instead of bitching about kessel, how about you put your ridiculous stat fetish to work by finding those exact stats about other players and then build an actual case with your evidence.

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@skiingallday @Greg Fenton @dlb eh I do watch the games, I'm at quite a few games at the ACC every year. I've seen Kessel play a lot. And some times he is the best most dangerous, most excisting player on the ice. I've seen 2-3 players back off him when he cross the blue line with the puck because he ist hat dangerous and demands that much respect, they are worried about pressuring him.

And I've seen him (too often) be invisible and a no-factor. 

Cameron19
Cameron19

@Greg Fenton @dlb eh if only he could get more meaningless points in losing efforts to make that game log look better, or stop scoring so many points all at once!

skiingallday
skiingallday

@Greg Fenton @dlb eh and stats don't always tell the tale. You have to actually watch the games, being a game breaker doesn't necessarily mean that he's scoring every game, just that he's playing really well and creating opportunities which in turn is getting the rest of the team going.

Pent_House
Pent_House

@Greg Fenton @Pent_House @DeclanK @lukethenuke People are over-hyping the early season play in determining the team. They look at your whole body of work. Kess was already there 4 years ago, since then all he's been is a top10 scorer and point per game player. To think he's not a lock to be on the team is ridiculous. He's the 2nd highest scoring winger in the NHL over the last two years, only behind St. Louis. He's ON the team. Who he plays with who knows, but i'm 95^ certain he;s a top6 forward for the states. 

Greg Fenton
Greg Fenton

@Pent_House @Greg Fenton @DeclanK @lukethenuke No he isn't, but I would argue no one is. Its possible 4 American born wingers play better then Kessel or that Kessel has a bad 1st half of the season etc.... 

I'd be surprised if he isn't there, but it seems silly at this point to say he shoul dbe on this line or that line, or behind this or in front of that guy etc..... so many factors will come into play.